How poor do the rich have to make the rest of us..

[terry]

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n2doc  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-14-10 12:28 PM
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How poor do the rich have to make the rest of us?   Updated at 12:52 PM
   
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They take our jobs and send them elsewhere.

They take our Pensions and "invest" them in scams, mine the money out of them and leave us with nothing

They take our health care, drive everyone out of the system and into the emergency rooms, so that they don't have to wait for treatment

They take our houses and resell them for pennies to "investors" to rent back to us.

They take our Schools, replacing them with "test factories" teaching a twisted view of history and science.

And they've taken our Government, so that we can be stuck with a huge debt that paid for nothing of value, only wars, bailouts and subsidies.


And we sit around and fight over the remaining crumbs

How poor do we have to become before we fight those who really are the problem?

Fire_Medic_Dave  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-14-10 01:02 PM
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12. Nobody is making me poor.
   

n2doc  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-14-10 01:13 PM
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17. Good for you!   Updated at 12:52 PM
   
Just don't get sick, don't get old, and don't count on a retirement. Regardless of how much you think it is secure. Your wealth is a "resource" waiting for someone to figure out how to take it away.

Ain't that the truth.

Fire_Medic_Dave  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-14-10 01:18 PM
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19. There will always be criminals trying to take what doesn't belong to them.
   
I have a host of medical problems, I doubt I'll live to 70 and I have never counted on retirement. I think that covers your concerns. Thanks.

David

[Ralph Wiggum]

What a whiny loser.  Of course that term applies to nearly all the DUmmies anyway.

[JohnnyReb]

What a whiny loser.  Of course that term applies to nearly all the DUmmies anyway.

Whine, wymin and song.......a DUmmies life.

[BEG]

Someone invite David over here, I think I might just like him.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Someone invite David over here, I think I might just like him.

Wouldn't it be nice if there were a practical way to invite the somewhat rational DUmmies like him over?

[JohnnyReb]

n2doc says, "How poor do we have to become before we fight those who really are the problem?"

So....as I see it, it's the blood sucking, lazy DUmmies that are making "us" poor....so y'all be sure and let me know when the fight starts.....I live kindda out in the boonies and don't want to miss a minute of the "New War on Poverty".....

[vesta111]

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Ain't that the truth.

Terry, being rich or poor today is by degrees.

The rich have Cars they bought for $75,000, the poor buy second hand cars for $2,000, what is the difference, both do the same job.?

The rich have huge homes with 9 unused rooms and pay taxes on 5 acres of unused land.
        The poor may be able to buy a home with little land but each room is used.

The rich spend thousands on clothing and goodies that the poor can duplicate with knock offs for Penny's on the doller--who knows.?

One can live as well as the ultra rich and even better depending on mind set.   I see a boat owned by a wealthy family, it is huge and beautiful, I wonder as I sit in my $400.00 Kayak if they are enjoying themselves as much as I am.

Poor is only in the head of people, even those homeless have a better life then those in another part of the world.

Why would anyone want to be wealthy, having everything at your command can not give you the joy of working and planning and suffering to get what one wants.

Wealth = Power, so what. The more power one gets the more restrictions placed on them.

We poor folk can come and go most anywhere without people in our face taking pictures of us to sell to the tabloids.   We can take the garbage out in our nightgown and not worry someone will pop up behind a bush to take our picture.

We can work our menial jobs and not worry about being sued by anyone looking for our deep pockets.

Even the poorest in government housing has the peace of mind that they are safe from the gold diggers.  They do not have to look over their backs for anyone that wishes to gain what they have.

The poorest have to cook their family meals as do the some of the wealthy, they have to wash their own cars as do the wealthy. The poorest also save their money to get their dream and embrace it, the wealthy can have this at any time and that has no value to them.

Check it out, Terry, the happiest people are those that do not live a life style of the wealthy.  One can emulate that life style, buy Zircons instead of diamonds, dress sharp from consignment shops, save a full year to travel or go on a Cruise.  

What fun is it to know that every wish will be granted just because you exist.?

[Tucker]

n2doc  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-14-10 12:28 PM
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How poor do the rich have to make the rest of us?   Updated at 12:52 PM
  
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They take our jobs and send them elsewhere.

Because of unreasonable union demands

They take our Pensions and "invest" them in scams, mine the money out of them and leave us with nothing

Thanks to the retirement savings account that we proposed and you guys shot down. That's what you get for depending on someone else to handle your future.

They take our health care, drive everyone out of the system and into the emergency rooms, so that they don't have to wait for treatment

I do believe that over 70% of Americans have some sort of health care coverage. The rest are young and don't want it or are lazy

They take our houses and resell them for pennies to "investors" to rent back to us.

The banking industry gave heavily to democrat candidates.

They take our Schools, replacing them with "test factories" teaching a twisted view of history and science.

Public schools have a graduation of 50% and the students who can't read upon graduation. Thanks to the NEA and the AFT, you can't fire inept teachers.

And they've taken our Government, so that we can be stuck with a huge debt that paid for nothing of value, only wars, bailouts and subsidies.

Progressive democrat party.


And we sit around and fight over the remaining crumbs

You smoke dope and eat the crumbs. No ambition.

How poor do we have to become before we fight those who really are the problem?

Ya big DUmmy. You are the problem.

[terry]

Vesta,

I think you may have misunderstood.  When I said "Ain't that the truth"  I was referring to

Your wealth is a "resource" waiting for someone to figure out how to take it away.

All wealth is a "resource" waiting for someone to figure out how to take it.   The DUer is thinking it's the rich sitting around planning on stealing people assets, when it is in fact the folks on the left who are trying figure out how to take way Dave's wealth.   

[BEG]

Terry, being rich or poor today is by degrees.

The rich have Cars they bought for $75,000, the poor buy second hand cars for $2,000, what is the difference, both do the same job.?

The rich have huge homes with 9 unused rooms and pay taxes on 5 acres of unused land.
        The poor may be able to buy a home with little land but each room is used.

The rich spend thousands on clothing and goodies that the poor can duplicate with knock offs for Penny's on the doller--who knows.?

One can live as well as the ultra rich and even better depending on mind set.   I see a boat owned by a wealthy family, it is huge and beautiful, I wonder as I sit in my $400.00 Kayak if they are enjoying themselves as much as I am.

Poor is only in the head of people, even those homeless have a better life then those in another part of the world.

Why would anyone want to be wealthy, having everything at your command can not give you the joy of working and planning and suffering to get what one wants.

Wealth = Power, so what. The more power one gets the more restrictions placed on them.

We poor folk can come and go most anywhere without people in our face taking pictures of us to sell to the tabloids.   We can take the garbage out in our nightgown and not worry someone will pop up behind a bush to take our picture.

We can work our menial jobs and not worry about being sued by anyone looking for our deep pockets.

Even the poorest in government housing has the peace of mind that they are safe from the gold diggers.  They do not have to look over their backs for anyone that wishes to gain what they have.

The poorest have to cook their family meals as do the some of the wealthy, they have to wash their own cars as do the wealthy. The poorest also save their money to get their dream and embrace it, the wealthy can have this at any time and that has no value to them.

Check it out, Terry, the happiest people are those that do not live a life style of the wealthy.  One can emulate that life style, buy Zircons instead of diamonds, dress sharp from consignment shops, save a full year to travel or go on a Cruise.  

What fun is it to know that every wish will be granted just because you exist.?

I don't know why you addressed Terry in your post.

[Tucker]

Poor is only in the head of people, even those homeless have a better life then those in another part of the world.

Bobolink will dispute that. To her, obama's brother in Kenya, with no running water and a dirt floor, live better than the poor in America.

[terry]

I don't know why you addressed Terry in your post.

I think she thought I was agreeing with the DU original post when I said "Ain't that the truth".

I wasn't particularly clear.  

[delilahmused]

Why would anyone want to be wealthy, having everything at your command can not give you the joy of working and planning and suffering to get what one wants.

What makes you think the rich don't work or that everything is handed to them? Plenty of rich people work very hard. And rich is relative. To a family in Somalia people living in tenements in NYC are "rich". As is suffering. Money doesn't guarantee one won't lose a parent to a disease or in a car accident. It doesn't mean you won't have a mental disease or any of the other things that are part of the human condition.

Cindie

[vesta111]

Bobolink will dispute that. To her, obama's brother in Kenya, with no running water and a dirt floor, live better than the poor in America.

Actually they do, my ancestors had no running water and dirt floors yet they raised family to go to church, read the good book and fight for their country.

Abe Lincoln had to read by the light of a fireplace as we are told. He had no inside plumbing, no hot water, or Central heat.  No big library's to go to, no real travel to see how others lived.

He was not one of a kind, there were thousands of people that wanted knowledge back then.

If one looks at the mid section of our country we will find men and woman that were raised in those circumstances and became doctors and lawyers, and Presidents.

Why not now, even the worst of the worst have the things that the people 200 years did not have.

Children that are home schooled by parents that give up their youth to educated their children are churning out remarkable children.   One parent that raises their child under a cloud of no TV, no computers or indoor plumbing all with the help of the public library, for some reason and you tell me why score higher then the public educated kids.

Don't matter if the kids have to use an outhouse or have to sweep dirt floors, the Kids are as smart as the parent want them to be.

[Tucker]

Actually they do,

OK. I stopped read there.

[Karin]

Tucker, generally me too. 

I just wanted to highlight this snippet

They take our houses and resell them for pennies to "investors" to rent back to us.

DUmmie, that house wasn't yours as long as the bank had a mortgage on it.  You stop paying the mortgage, you don't get to keep the house.  Life is not free lollipops and rainbows.  You get free stuff when you're an infant, in exchange for the dubious pleasure of your company.  After that, not so much. 

[dandi]

Actually they do

No, they ****ing don't.  Anyone who says that is either A-brain damaged or B-has never been out of the country.  I would normally tend to say B for most people but you are seriously beginning to make me believe you have a lot of both.

Only in the greatest and richest country on the planet can we have headlines that scream about how obesity is a threat to the poor.  Did you get that, Vesta?  The ****ing poor!  Don't try to explain it, don't try to make sense of it, don't try to piss down my leg and tell me it's raining.

I have seen poor, my dear, and it looks nothing like the slothful lard asses that stand with their hands out and beg to be fed more!  When you have spent some time in Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, or any country on the African Continent then come back and tell me how the poor in America suffer more than them.

Seriously, Vesta, do you even think before you post?

[JohnnyReb]

No, they ******* don't.  Anyone who says that is either A-brain damaged or B-has never been out of the country.  I would normally tend to say B for most people but you are seriously beginning to make me believe you have a lot of both.

Only in the greatest and richest country on the planet can we have headlines that scream about how obesity is a threat to the poor.  Did you get that, Vesta?  The ******* poor!  Don't try to explain it, don't try to make sense of it, don't try to piss down my leg and tell me it's raining.

I have seen poor, my dear, and it looks nothing like the slothful lard asses that stand with their hands out and beg to be fed more!  When you have spent some time in Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, or any country on the African Continent then come back and tell me how the poor in America suffer more than them.

Seriously, Vesta, do you even think before you post?

 ....reminds me of an article I read a few years back.

A guy from India came to the U.S. and did well. He went home to visit his family and his brother was all over him to help him move to the U.S.. His family was well off in India and his brother was doing well so he couldn't understand why his brother wanted to immagrate. Well, his brother had seen a TV special on the poor in America and they were all fat. He told his U.S. brother that he wanted to live in a country where even the poor were fat....

[The Village Idiot]

The rich didn't make you poor, idiot DUmmie.

The government is doing that all on its way.

[ChuckJ]

Generally I just skim over Vesta's posts. No offense intended, but a lot of times they remind me of something Yoda would write after he had tied one on. With that said, I think that I know what she's talking about here. I don't think that she's saying the poor in Kenya are financially better off than the poor here. I think she's talking about better off in the family and/or spiritual sense.

An example...
When I was growing up we were very poor. We lived way back in the woods. Daddy had a tiny old tractor that had an old trailer. On the week end we would dig up some worms, cut some small tree limbs for poles, pack a lunch, hook up the trailer to the tractor and head into the swamp. We'd spend our weekends fishing, picnicking, camping, etc. We'd spend it as a family. I had rich friends that didn't have near as good a childhood as I had. Back then it seemed like when you grew up poor you appreciated family more and you appreciated what you did have. These days things have gotten so materialistic that family is often a secondary thought and instead of appreciating what they do have folks tend to be pissed about what they don't have (see Bobolink).

At least I think that's what she's talking about, but I could be wrong.

[GOBUCKS]

n2doc  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Mar-14-10 12:28 PM
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How poor do the rich have to make the rest of us?   Updated at 12:52 PM

Speaking only for myself, I'd like to make the DUmmies much, much poorer, especially DUmmy n2doc. I'm sure, though, that will happen with no effort on my part. Losers tend to keep on losing.