Doug's ex-wife Dreams of being Hugo's slave

[Vagabond]

Chavez siezes frin the productive, makes way for glorious new public housing and sweatshop

Happy Hippy (160 posts)      Thu Mar-11-10 09:02 PM
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Venezuela seizes top food producer's property
 CARACAS, Venezuela — A mayor loyal to Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has ordered the expropriation of property owned by the country's largest food producer.

Amalia Saez is mayor of the industrial city of Barquisimeto in northwestern Venezuela. She has issued a decree allowing local officials to seize control of property owned by Empresas Polar on the outskirts of the city. Polar uses the property for warehouse storage.

Chavez urged officials a month ago to force Polar to move the warehouses to another location, saying the property could be put to better use serving the community.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hZXur...



Chavez has been busy today.
 

Yes,good thing  the wise and benvolent Chavez shut down somebody actually producing something to make way for the community of people who may have worked there.

dionysus  (1000+ posts)      Thu Mar-11-10 09:07 PM
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1. he's turning into a douchebag. power must have gone to his head.
 i'm sure he'll be applauded for it. 

No, not starting DUmmie.  Always has been and always will be.  Right up until one of his own puts a bullet in him and we get the blame for it.

EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Thu Mar-11-10 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. Right. A douchebag with an affordable housing program.
 Why can't he just let people get thrown out on the street the American way?

Damn you, Chenis! 

They might not need thetenemants if Chavez would let their employers actually ya know try to make a profit?

EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Thu Mar-11-10 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. He has a mouth on him. But if you look at these stories carefully,
 some of them pull for that reaction.

These folks were told some time ago that they'd need to move their facility to make way for a housing project. (Those projects usually are mixed, with housing and on site jobs -- retail or clean manufacturing of some kind, like garment assembly). The guys that own the warehouse probably figured if the government had to seize the property, it would also have to fork over compensation. Maybe a better deal for them than just complying.

The headline could have been, "Venezuela forges ahead with affordable housing program as oil prices rise" but that would get no attention at all.   

Yeah  right.  You would be the first person crying a river about those "poor people" if the garment factory you are talking about was located in the United States.  Or did you not know that "garment assembly" means near slave like labor under ppoor working conditions, and poor pay.

The Magistrate (1000+ posts)        Thu Mar-11-10 10:04 PM
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10. And, Ma'am, There Are A Number Of Distortions And Ommissions In The Story
 'Largest food producer' sounds like something essential and benign only a bad man would take anything from, but Polar is a food processor, and over half its income comes from brewing and selling beer, which was its original business.

No background on the dispute whatever is provided. We are not told what offers were made, what the company's reaction was, what the location is, what the need of the community may be. 

Yep, who needs beer or jobs when the government can put you in a tenament and work you in a sweatshop.

Good Lord does Beth even pay attention to what she says?

[The Village Idiot]

EFaeri falls for the Hugo line 100%.

Do you think there is no other place to build housing in that city?

Water shortages and blackouts becoming commonplace, threats that those who use tweeter are terrorists and on and on. He's a dictator.

Hugo has it in for Polar. They are the #1 food producer in Venezuela and he wants to nationalize it as he did others. The problem is he has no idea how it could be operated that way. He knows what happened in Zimbabwe could very well happen there.

VeneZimbabwe is a big mess.

[Chris_]

The DUmp droolers just love old Hugo....Obama/Chavez 2012

[franksolich]

He knows what happened in Zimbabwe could very well happen there.

VeneZimbabwe is a big mess.

You know, this is just speculation--and speculation from afar--but I wonder if Yugo has the same ailment that afflicted the late Idi Amin of Uganda, and that it's going to get worse and worse, unless people in Venezuela with both courage and means do something about it.

I'm talking here about terminal syphillis.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's in its incipient stages, inside Yugo's brain.

[franksolich]

It's from wikipedia, but wikipedia "facts" seem to parallel the facts as published in old newsmagazines of the 1970s.

There's lots of similarities between Yugo and Idi.

Idi Amin Dada (c.1925 – 16 August 2003) was the military dictator and President of Uganda from 1971 to 1979. Amin joined the British colonial regiment, the King's African Rifles, in 1946, and eventually held the rank of Major General and Commander of the Ugandan Army. He took power in a military coup of January 1971, deposing Milton Obote.

Amin's rule was characterised by human rights abuses, political repression, ethnic persecution, extrajudicial killings, nepotism, corruption and gross economic mismanagement. The number of people killed as a result of his regime is estimated by international observers and human rights groups to range from 100,000 to 500,000.

Notable backers of Amin included Muammar al-Gaddafi's Libya, the Soviet Union and East Germany, with early support for his regime coming from Great Britain, Israel, and Apartheid-era South Africa.

In 1975–1976, Amin became the Chairman of the Organisation of African Unity, a pan-Africanist group designed to promote solidarity of the African states. During the 1977–1979 period, Uganda was appointed to the United Nations Commission on Human Rights. From 1977 to 1979, Amin titled himself as "His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular".

Amin announced that he was a soldier, not a politician, and that the military government would remain only as a caretaker regime until new elections, which would be announced when the situation was normalised. He promised to release all political prisoners.

Amin was welcomed both within Uganda and by the international community. He gave former king and president Mutesa (who had died in exile) a state burial in April 1971, freed many political prisoners, and reiterated his promise to hold free and fair elections to return the country to democratic rule in the shortest period possible.

In August 1972, Amin declared what he called an "economic war", a set of policies that included the expropriation of properties owned by Asians and Europeans. Uganda's 80,000 Asians were mostly from the Indian subcontinent and born in the country, their ancestors having come to Uganda when the country was still a British colony. Many owned businesses, including large-scale enterprises, that formed the backbone of the Ugandan economy.

On August 4, 1972, Amin issued a decree ordering the expulsion of the 60,000 Asians who were not Ugandan citizens (most of them held British passports). This was later amended to include all 80,000 Asians, except for professionals, such as doctors, lawyers and teachers. A plurality of the Asians with British passports, around 30,000, emigrated to Britain. Others went to Australia, Canada, India, Pakistan, Sweden, and the U.S.

Amin expropriated businesses and properties belonging to the Asians and handed them over to his supporters. The businesses were mismanaged, and industries collapsed from lack of maintenance. This proved disastrous for the already declining economy.

Following the expulsion of Ugandan Asians in 1972, most of whom were of Indian descent, India severed diplomatic relations with Uganda. The same year, as part of his "economic war", Amin broke diplomatic ties with Britain and nationalised 85 British-owned businesses.

That year, relations with Israel soured. Although Israel had previously supplied Uganda with arms, in 1972 Amin expelled Israeli military advisers and turned to Muammar al-Gaddafi of Libya and the Soviet Union for support. Amin became an outspoken critic of Israel. In the documentary film General Idi Amin Dada: A Self Portrait, he discussed his plans for war against Israel, using paratroops, bombers and suicide squadrons. Amin later stated that Hitler "was right to burn six million Jews"

In June 1976, Amin allowed an Air France airliner hijacked by two members of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - External Operations (PFLP-EO) and two members of the German Revolutionäre Zellen to land at Entebbe Airport. There, the hijackers were joined by three more.

Soon after, 156 hostages who did not hold Israeli passports were released and flown to safety, while 83 Jews and Israeli citizens, as well as 20 others who refused to abandon them (among whom were the captain and crew of the hijacked Air France jet), continued to be held hostage. In the subsequent Israeli rescue operation, codenamed Operation Thunderbolt (popularly known as Operation Entebbe), nearly all the hostages were freed. Three hostages died and 10 were wounded; six hijackers, 45 Ugandan soldiers, and one Israeli soldier, Yoni Netanyahu, were killed. This incident further soured Uganda's international relations, leading Britain to close its High Commission in Uganda.

Uganda under Amin embarked on a large military build-up, which raised concerns in Kenya. Early in June 1975, Kenyan officials impounded a large convoy of Soviet-made arms en route to Uganda at the port of Mombasa. Tension between Uganda and Kenya reached its climax in February 1976 when Amin announced that he would investigate the possibility that parts of southern Sudan and western and central Kenya, up to within 32 kilometres (20 mi) of Nairobi, were historically a part of colonial Uganda.

The Kenyan Government responded with a stern statement that Kenya would not part with "a single inch of territory". Amin backed down after the Kenyan army deployed troops and armored personnel carriers along the Kenya-Uganda border.

Over time, Amin became more erratic and outspoken. In 1977, after Britain had broken diplomatic relations with his regime, Amin declared he had beaten the British, and conferred on himself the decoration of CBE (Conqueror of the British Empire).

Radio Uganda then read out the whole of his new title: "His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, CBE." In 1971, Amin and Zaire's president Mobutu Sese Seko changed the names of Lake Albert and Lake Edward to Lake Mobutu Sese Seko and Lake Idi Amin Dada, respectively.

Amin became the subject of rumours and myths, including a widespread belief that he was a cannibal. Some of the unsubstantiated rumours, such as the mutilation of one of his wives, were spread and popularised by the 1980 film Rise and Fall of Idi Amin and alluded to in the film The Last King of Scotland in 2006.

During Amin's reign, popular media outside of Uganda often portrayed him as an essentially comic figure. In a 1977 assessment typical of the time, a Time magazine article described him as a "killer and clown, big-hearted buffoon and strutting martinet". For focusing on Amin's excessive tastes and self-aggrandizing eccentricities, the foreign media was often criticized for downplaying or excusing his murderous behavior.

Other commentators even suggested that Amin had deliberately cultivated his reputation in the foreign media as an easily parodied buffoon in order to defuse international concern over his administration of Uganda.

Big Daddy Idi was overthrown in 1979, after invading Tanzania, which then turned the tables and went in to liberate Uganda.

I see a lot of similarities between Yugo and Idi, one of them being that the primitives on Skins's island would've idolized Idi too.

[The Village Idiot]

I'm talking here about terminal syphillis.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's in its incipient stages, inside Yugo's brain.

And we won't find that out until he's dead most likely

[Karin]

Skink  (1000+ posts)      Thu Mar-11-10 09:13 PM
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3. Feudal land Barrons beware.
 Obama should start seizing stuff. Like goldman Sachs.
 

 Dr.Phool  (1000+ posts)        Fri Mar-12-10 01:06 AM
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34. Wouldn't that be nice.
 Fat chance of it ever happening though.
 

 Name removed (0 posts)      Thu Mar-11-10 09:31 PM
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And this:

maddezmom   (1000+ posts)        Fri Mar-12-10 01:15 AM
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36. locking
 OP is no longer with us.

What?  Did he die?  Get tossed in the Gulag?  That site is no longer Democratic Underground.  It is Communist Underground.  Was it like this before lord zero ascended the throne?  Or did they just get all empowered feeling, and came out of the woodwork? 

[The Village Idiot]

haha

Obama wishes he could be like Hugo

[Ralph Wiggum]

And this:
What?  Did he die?  Get tossed in the Gulag?  That site is no longer Democratic Underground.  It is Communist Underground.  Was it like this before lord zero ascended the throne?  Or did they just get all empowered feeling, and came out of the woodwork? 

How could they possibly tombstone someone named "Happy Hippy"?

[jukin]

Dear DUchebags,

Please see the spectacular job that another famed and international socialist darling, Robert Mugabe. This wonderful socialist person took what was the breadbasket of Africa to the most needy nation in the dark continent.

The equality of misery is the only possible end to socialism.  Always has always will be.

[GOBUCKS]

If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend the movie "The Last King of Scotland". It's about Amin's reign in Uganda, and it's great entertainment. A really spooky portrayal of the crazy Idi Amin.

[The Village Idiot]

How could they possibly tombstone someone named "Happy Hippy"?

They claim to have no censorship of course.

[kenth]

They claim to have no censorship of course.

You're free to say anything you want, so long as it adheres to the communist party line.

[Tucker]

EFaeri falls for the Hugo line 100%.

Do you think there is no other place to build housing in that city?

Water shortages and blackouts becoming commonplace, threats that those who use tweeter are terrorists and on and on. He's a dictator.

Hugo has it in for Polar. They are the #1 food producer in Venezuela and he wants to nationalize it as he did others. The problem is he has no idea how it could be operated that way. He knows what happened in Zimbabwe could very well happen there.

VeneZimbabwe is a big mess.

Zimbabwe/Rhodesia has been a screwed up country since Ian Smith left. They don't make em like that anymore.

[franksolich]

Zimbabwe/Rhodesia has been a screwed up country since Ian Smith left. They don't make em like that anymore.

Up until the late 1970s, just before Rhodesia changed governments, blacks in that country enjoyed the highest per capita wages, the highest quality of medical care, the highest standard of living, in ALL of black Africa.

Blacks in South Africa and South-West Africa enjoyed the second-highest.

These statistics courtesy the United Nations, and were published frequently in news magazines of the time.

This is NOT an endorsement of minority white rule; it however IS an indictment of how abysmal the condition was and is, of blacks in Africa under black rule.

Much of it had to do with the evil white man's practice of the Rule of Law, rather than the whims and caprices of tinpot dictators.

[GOBUCKS]

Minority rule is guaranteed in Africa still today. Every African "nation" is an amalgam of tribes, most of whom are blood enemies of one another. Whichever one has the upper hand at any point in time runs the place for the benefit of his tribe alone. We can't tell 'em apart, but to a Hutu, a Tutsi is a subhuman savage, and vice versa. A hundred years from now, Africa will be just as backward as it is today, thanks to tribalism.

[Tucker]

It's a real shame that there wasn't a civil war in Kenya about 50 years ago, killing a certain Kenyan before he could breed.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Yeah, I'm sure it's child's play to get new warehouses purchased, erected and into operation in Hugo's burgeoning Huconomy, fixed prices for the goods in the warehouses and all, even though the owner wouldn't have programmed that into the operating budget before the prices got fixed, since the old buildings were foreseen to be in service for years to come (Probably until they fell apart, given the Hugonomic conditions), unfortunately Hugo unexpectedly decided they were in the wrong place.

Still, a great illustration for the sane about what happens when a populist buffoon manages to seize the reins of executive power and then start abusing them to pursue childishly-naive economic theories.  Half of the Democrats in Congress and most of the Administration are cut from the same cloth, they just have the veneer of Ivy League BS laid over the top of it to make it sound better than ruling by arbitrary decree.  

[GOBUCKS]

Probably until they fell apart, given the Hugonomic conditions

If you practice Hugonomics, you end up with an Oconomy. I think Hugonomics is the approach poor stupid Beth is using to get her goat farm development financed.

[Duke Nukum]

Everyone is evil except the Government unless George W. Bush is in charge of the Government, then only the Government is not evil.