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National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« on: March 09, 2010, 09:26:00 AM »
Joy, more railroading of our rights, this time at the expense of illegals.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/08/id-card-workers-center-immigration-plan/

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Lawmakers working to craft a new comprehensive immigration bill have settled on a way to prevent employers from hiring illegal immigrants: a national biometric identification card all American workers would eventually be required to obtain.

Under the potentially controversial plan still taking shape in the Senate, all legal U.S. workers, including citizens and immigrants, would be issued an ID card with embedded information, such as fingerprints, to tie the card to the worker.

Also I am really not surprised at the idiot Republican that is helping out the democrat on this one.  Can we say national ID card everyone?  Just friggin amazing.

Go eff yourself Lindsey G.

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Re: National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2010, 10:32:10 AM »
I'm waiting for Lindsey Graham to announce that he is switching parties at any time.  This and globull warming is what he's been talking about lately.  What happened to that law requiring employers to verify that workers were citizens?  About 2 years ago, we  were required to prove we were citizens at work.

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Re: National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2010, 10:35:33 AM »
I'm waiting for Lindsey Graham to announce that he is switching parties at any time.  This and globull warming is what he's been talking about lately.  What happened to that law requiring employers to verify that workers were citizens?  About 2 years ago, we  were required to prove we were citizens at work.

That law still exists.  But I hear that the forgeries are quite realistic these days.

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Re: National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2010, 10:37:39 AM »
Joy, more railroading of our rights, this time at the expense of illegals.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/08/id-card-workers-center-immigration-plan/

Also I am really not surprised at the idiot Republican that is helping out the democrat on this one.  Can we say national ID card everyone?  Just friggin amazing.

Go eff yourself Lindsey G.

It's not about immigration at all.  It's about more government control over every aspect of our lives.

I suspect I will live to see the day where national ID cards are mandated for all US citizens.

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Re: National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2010, 11:10:57 AM »
It's not about immigration at all.  It's about more government control over every aspect of our lives.

I suspect I will live to see the day where national ID cards are mandated for all US citizens.

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If that happens, then showing them had better become a requirement for voting. In fact, that needs to be an amendment added to the bill. If that doesn't kill it then nothing would.

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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2010, 11:15:56 AM »
If that happens, then showing them had better become a requirement for voting. In fact, that needs to be an amendment added to the bill. If that doesn't kill it then nothing would.

Ooopsie....

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"It is fundamentally a massive invasion of people's privacy," said Chris Calabrese, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. "We're not only talking about fingerprinting every American, treating ordinary Americans like criminals in order to work. We're also talking about a card that would quickly spread from work to voting to travel to pretty much every aspect of American life that requires identification."


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Re: National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2010, 11:19:59 AM »
And how will they establish your identity to obtain this card?

Last time I checked the I-9 was suppose to establish eligibility to work, buy a house, etc.

We don't need new laws to be broken we need enforcement of the laws already on the books (and a border wall).
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2010, 11:28:19 AM »
Ooopsie....

Bold added.

I'm siding with the ACLU on being against this?   :censored:

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Re: National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2010, 12:01:28 PM »
And how will they establish your identity to obtain this card?

Last time I checked the I-9 was suppose to establish eligibility to work, buy a house, etc.

We don't need new laws to be broken we need enforcement of the laws already on the books (and a border wall).

Exactly!   :cheersmate:
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Re: National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2010, 01:24:55 PM »
This isn't going to become some hill-jack ignorant Mark of the Beast thread, is it?   :fuelfire:

I'm all for Graham f'ing himself, though.
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Re: National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2010, 01:29:48 PM »
This isn't going to become some hill-jack ignorant Mark of the Beast thread, is it?   :fuelfire:

I'm all for Graham f'ing himself, though.

Naw, that'll come when they want to start implanting chips in everyone.

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Re: National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2010, 01:35:45 PM »
Naw, that'll come when they want to start implanting chips in everyone.

I thought it was tattoos???   :-)
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Re: National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2010, 01:37:06 PM »
I thought it was tattoos???   :-)

Bar codes on the forehead, with an RFID chip in the forearm .

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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2010, 01:49:26 PM »
Bar codes on the forehead, with an RFID chip in the forearm .

That is right.  Been a while since I read the books.
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Re: National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2010, 01:51:21 PM »
That is right.  Been a while since I read the books.

What books?  I was just thinking of the easiest way for the government to keep track of people.

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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2010, 01:52:18 PM »
What books?  I was just thinking of the easiest way for the government to keep track of people.

I suspect Issa was referring to the Left Behind series.
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2010, 01:53:30 PM »
What books?  I was just thinking of the easiest way for the government to keep track of people.

You really need to check this out.

http://www.leftbehind.com/
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Re: National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2010, 01:56:13 PM »
You really need to check this out.

http://www.leftbehind.com/

I've heard of them, but I'm not much into religious type stories.

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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2010, 01:58:49 PM »
I've heard of them, but I'm not much into religious type stories.

I hear ya.  And to clear matters up I ain't no hill-jack ignorant.... :-)  

I thought that was what DAT was referring to in his comment.  
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Re: National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2010, 05:02:57 PM »
I'm waiting for Lindsey Graham to announce that he is switching parties at any time.  This and globull warming is what he's been talking about lately.  What happened to that law requiring employers to verify that workers were citizens?  About 2 years ago, we  were required to prove we were citizens at work.

Have you looked at the census report we're all supposed to fill out?

Last year, the Senate Dems blocked a GOP effort to have the census ask the question, "Are you a citizen of the United States?"

The reason ostensibly was to add the question would've delayed the census for a few months and that gerrymandering and reapportionment is based on "number of people" instead of the number of citizens.

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Re: National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2010, 05:11:27 PM »
I hear ya.  And to clear matters up I ain't no hill-jack ignorant.... :-)  

I thought that was what DAT was referring to in his comment.  

Not really, I have had to deal with people in my professional life who thought even having a social security number was somehow submitting to the Antichrist, long before the Left Behind books, though good connection on your part.  Let's just say I didn't regard those guys as the fellas "October Sky" was written about.
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Re: National worker ID card, or is it really a National ID card?
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2010, 05:23:05 PM »
Have you looked at the census report we're all supposed to fill out?

Last year, the Senate Dems blocked a GOP effort to have the census ask the question, "Are you a citizen of the United States?"

The reason ostensibly was to add the question would've delayed the census for a few months and that gerrymandering and reapportionment is based on "number of people" instead of the number of citizens.

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Several conservative blogs are saying to check other for race and write in American.  :evillaugh:

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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2010, 05:30:14 PM »
Several conservative blogs are saying to check other for race and write in American.  :evillaugh:

I'm always kind of ambivalent about that since the wife and I both have some Native American in our background.  I think 1/16 plus a bit from farther back for me, though given the times when the bloodlines crossed, it was not the thing to talk about or hold onto, so the tribal affiliation is a long-lost thread.  When I feel cranky I check the block for it, though.
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2010, 05:44:34 PM »
I'm always kind of ambivalent about that since the wife and I both have some Native American in our background.  I think 1/16 plus a bit from farther back for me, though given the times when the bloodlines crossed, it was not the thing to talk about or hold onto, so the tribal affiliation is a long-lost thread.  When I feel cranky I check the block for it, though.

I'll not be responding to any questions about race on any census form.

I'll do this year what I did the last time.  Fill out how many people live at my residence.

That is the only question I will respond to.

But I do kind of like the idea of writing in American as race.  :evillaugh:

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« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2010, 07:43:29 PM »
Not really, I have had to deal with people in my professional life who thought even having a social security number was somehow submitting to the Antichrist, long before the Left Behind books, though good connection on your part.  Let's just say I didn't regard those guys as the fellas "October Sky" was written about.

Just so ya know I wasn't one of those people you were referring to.  I was just funning, but I don't want to be thought of as one of them.  Everyone knows the world will cease to exist as the Mayans foretold..... :-)
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