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Poker Tournament robbed on Live TV in Germany
« on: March 06, 2010, 07:27:54 PM »
http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2010/03/german-poker-tournament-robbed-of.html

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFn3XxRWcO0[/youtube]

A gang of masked gunmen burst into a poker tournament in Berlin in broad daylight yesterday and stole more than £700,000 in cash.

The attackers entered the Grand Hyatt Hotel, snatched a portion of the prize money and fled.

Gamblers were injured as they ran from the busy conference hall fearing for their lives.

The robbers wore black balaclavas and were armed with Kalashnikov assault rifles, machetes and hand grenades. . . .

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Re: Poker Tournament robbed on Live TV in Germany
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2010, 11:57:15 PM »
Not thinking that's gonna happen at the Rio anytime soon.  Frankly, I'm surprised someone isn't stupid enough to try it at some smaller venues, given the lack of serious security.
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Re: Poker Tournament robbed on Live TV in Germany
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2010, 07:52:39 AM »
Not thinking that's gonna happen at the Rio anytime soon.  Frankly, I'm surprised someone isn't stupid enough to try it at some smaller venues, given the lack of serious security.

I wouldn't worry about Foxwood, the Indians picked a spot that has just a few roads in and out.  The security is there to protect the Casino, not the customers.

Actually as we discussed this, the best security is never seen.  One knows it is there but out of sight, out of mind.

 Portland Maine has an Arena that has security that drives the druggies crazy, I went to a 38 Special Concert and the people in front of us were having a hissy fit, because security did not advertise, wore plain cloths and no one knew when they were safe to fire one up.  

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   Frankly, I'm surprised someone isn't stupid enough to try it at some smaller venues, given the lack of serious security.

From what I have been told the large venues have a built in loss expectation due to employee theft, and customer theft from cheating.

Smaller venues have the same but cannot handle a loss the size of a large Casino.  So, their security is unseen but more proactive then their competitors.

The biggies in Vegas will throw a cheater out and pass along photos of the smuck that took them for perhaps $10,000 to other Casinos on the strip. They in turn will ban them from their establishment.

A small Casino in say Maine will do no such thing, the cheater will have a very bad accident driving home. First on scene will be a civilian with an impeccable reputation, say a woman with kids in her car, what ever she says happend will not be  to the advantage of the smuck.    

Sort of like your Sub Sparky, unseen, unheard, and worth 5 battle ships as a deterrent.

Really to understand how this works, I and a coworker got a crash course at Foxwoods.  

Hubby and I had gone with a group of people from work by bus to that Casino.   We don't gambol but perhaps $50.00 each, when the money runs out we then take the free- be's from the casino and the tour line to eat and people watch.

Hubby and I were filling in time untill the return trip by bus, checking out the shops and laughing our selves silly at the prices of everything.  

Along came a motorised machine of some sort with all kinds of cameras equipment attached, it was moving at a very good clip just zooming down the walk way.  We decided to follow it out of nothing else to do and we found it at a black jack table.

The machine was at a stand still behind ED, the floor sweeper at our work.    Poor old ED, he was drunk as a skunk and betting $100.00 a hand.    Unfortunately he was UP on the bets and raking in the chips even as drunk as he was.  Had ED been sober, he would have been intimidated by the cameras, perhaps thrown off his game, but, drunk he didn't even know they were there.

It took all we had to get him away from the table and back on the bus with his winnings that were to us and him sizeable.   People came up to us as we were half dragging him away to offer him a free room, free transportation home the next day if he stayed.  

Like a little kid he kept opening his wallet to show strangers this huge ward of bills he had won.     I ran interference for him, when someone tried to stop us I claimed to be his wife and insisted he get on that darn Bus.

We got him home safe and sound with his winnings we thought, but this story has a wierd ending.  He decided to hide his winnings, when he awoke the next day he could not remember where he had put all that money.

Fast forward to today, Ed has still not found his fortune and finds he is stuck in his apartment and cannot move.  He will not allow anyone into his place, has spent 5 years removing and checking behind all wall outlets, behind all built in lighting fixtures, torn up most of his wall to wall carpet.  He is afraid to get rid of any wood furniture, his mattress or sofa cushions.

He will not get rid of his car, has it in storage and has taken it down to the frame.

Me, I don't think he ever made it home off the bus with the money, I believe someone aboard got his wallet as he was disembarking when everyone is lined up and belly to belly and picket pocketed him and replaced the wallet.

The 3 hour ride did little to sober him up, he may have been in the habit of hiding assets so assumes he hid his bank roll.

Human nature-----what a hoot.



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Re: Poker Tournament robbed on Live TV in Germany
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2010, 08:37:59 AM »
Vesta, I'm not talking about Vegas, Foxwoods, AC, or any "established" casino.  Never was.

But the little cardrooms that are all over NH are a prime target, with little to nothing in the way of security.
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Re: Poker Tournament robbed on Live TV in Germany
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2010, 09:28:09 AM »
With balls that big they should be easy enough to spot.

BTW - how did hey get AKs and grnades? Europe has gun control laws. It's UNPOSSIBLE!!!
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Re: Poker Tournament robbed on Live TV in Germany
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2010, 09:58:52 AM »
With balls that big they should be easy enough to spot.

BTW - how did hey get AKs and grnades? Europe has gun control laws. It's UNPOSSIBLE!!!

Nah, there's no mob in any of the Eurotrash socialist "paradise" nations.../sarc

Though I AM kind of curious where they got frikkin HAND GRENADES.  Just as well they didn't get confronted--guys with bullet-proof vests, AK's, and the whole getup would make it look like the No. Hollywood bank shootout with a LOT more civilians around.
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Re: Poker Tournament robbed on Live TV in Germany
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2010, 12:59:34 PM »
Vesta, I'm not talking about Vegas, Foxwoods, AC, or any "established" casino.  Never was.

But the little cardrooms that are all over NH are a prime target, with little to nothing in the way of security.

I'm sure there are plenty of people carrying concealed in those little card rooms. Hell, even I have a CCW permit from New Hampshire. You could do a little test and go into one of those places waving a gun around, and announce that it's a stickup. See what happens.  :evillaugh:

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Re: Poker Tournament robbed on Live TV in Germany
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2010, 08:13:50 PM »
Thanks a heck of a lot you guys, now I can't sleep as there is something wrong here and I can't figure it out.  Actually most everything is wrong, very strange.

Overhead for the crooks to spend for the weapons and so called hand grenades, bribes and pay off for those on both inside and outside.  They must have a good deal of the loot tied up  in business expense. 

With 1,000 players and the amount of money going back and forth at the money cage one would think they would have hired off duty cops to hang out there and at the doors.

What ever, I don't think the Casino owners are going to be too thrilled with his managers or the guards who either had no training or were  just glorified floor walkers armed with a cell phone.

Insurance will have to pay the amount the Casino " SAYS " was stolen. 

These 6 men one armed with a machete, I hope they spend that money real fast as they will be made a gruesome example of.  Even if this robbery was a fake for the insurance money, those 6 men will have to be neutralised so they can't talk. 

Still I get a feeling I missed something, the 6 men were not very professional dropping bags of money, if in fact there was even money in the bags.

Then to run from a Casino dressed as they were carring weapons that may or not been loaded in broad daylight and to vanish into thin air-----??

I would love to see a blue print of that floor, the money cage was way too close to the front doors, or any doors for security.

All the card tables were placed well out of the way of any danger, can't risk even a scratch on a customer willing to bet in that kind of stakes game. 

Questions about the videos,  I have watched at least 6 of them about a half dozen times and wonder about-----

Who was the woman that was under the table picking up the chips that had fallen to the floor.?

Who owned the pair of high heels sitting on top of one of the tables.?

How did they get on the gaming floor without security cameras that are every where not pick them up?

Who is stupid enough to rob an international crime controlled Casino carring just a big knife.?

Who was that old man that looked Asian trying to shield,  his 12 year old wife or girlfriend.?

 Then as the patrons were trying to leave the scene before the police arrived, they were all ushered back to their seats.    How did the management know all danger was past.??

AH well, this is what I get for spending summer nights under the moon with my EX-step father the insurance adjuster, listening to his storeys about strange cases he had. 

OK gals any of you get the sixth sense that some thing is odd here?    Woman's intuition.?











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Re: Poker Tournament robbed on Live TV in Germany
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2010, 09:51:03 PM »
I'm sure there are plenty of people carrying concealed in those little card rooms. Hell, even I have a CCW permit from New Hampshire. You could do a little test and go into one of those places waving a gun around, and announce that it's a stickup. See what happens.  :evillaugh:

Which is great right up till you find out one or more of those guys pulled the pins on a hand grenade they talked about and held their hands around in just in case someone did pull their weapons out and started shooting. Never underestimate the desperation of someone willing to rob a casino or any place with large amounts of cash.  
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Re: Poker Tournament robbed on Live TV in Germany
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2010, 08:11:03 AM »
I'm sure there are plenty of people carrying concealed in those little card rooms. Hell, even I have a CCW permit from New Hampshire. You could do a little test and go into one of those places waving a gun around, and announce that it's a stickup. See what happens.  :evillaugh:

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Re: Poker Tournament robbed on Live TV in Germany
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2010, 12:09:32 PM »
This reminds me of a skit on Chappelle's show about the "World Series of Dice".
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Re: Poker Tournament robbed on Live TV in Germany
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2010, 03:28:23 PM »
This reminds me of a skit on Chappelle's show about the "World Series of Dice".

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