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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2010, 10:49:25 PM »
Vicodin worked wonders for my lower back pain, knee pain, osteoarthritis, for a while. However, I reached a point where I became "used to it". If it's muscular, the muscle relaxer works fine. If it's joint/bone related, Vicodin works mo betta.
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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2010, 05:50:39 AM »
When my back has went out, I've always avoiding for sitting too long. Lying down was much comfortable, even when it was on the floor.

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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2010, 08:23:14 AM »
Well it still makes me sick. I think I would rather have the back pain. I have 60 pills and have used 2 1/2, I'm not going to take the rest.

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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2010, 09:12:42 AM »
I've had back problems, and I've found out that large doses, 800mg, of ibuprofen also help.

Agree completely.  Post-injury inflammation can take awhile to work up, but once it does, pressure or pulling on nerve tissue can cause a lot of those shooting pains you get, same for irritations along the spine - there is a vicious circle of small injury irritating a nerve, swelling results, that causes more pain and irritation, and so more swelling - it can take forever to heal on its own, because your bodies healing processes keep aggravating the injury, but ibuprofen is a powerful anti-inflammant, and allows to the damaged tissue to get back to normal dimensions and heal much quicker.  I had a rotator cuff injury that just wouldn't heal about 12 years ago, until I went on prescription-strength (800 mg) ibuprofen for a week, and I was back to 100% within a week.
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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2010, 09:30:33 AM »
Agree completely.  Post-injury inflammation can take awhile to work up, but once it does, pressure or pulling on nerve tissue can cause a lot of those shooting pains you get, same for irritations along the spine - there is a vicious circle of small injury irritating a nerve, swelling results, that causes more pain and irritation, and so more swelling - it can take forever to heal on its own, because your bodies healing processes keep aggravating the injury, but ibuprofen is a powerful anti-inflammant, and allows to the damaged tissue to get back to normal dimensions and heal much quicker.  I had a rotator cuff injury that just wouldn't heal about 12 years ago, until I went on prescription-strength (800 mg) ibuprofen for a week, and I was back to 100% within a week.

800 mg ibuprofen is what I was prescribed, but the pharmacist said it was the same as taking four 200 mg or close to 3 250 mg, so I bought the cheaper ones off the shelf.

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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2010, 10:50:51 AM »
800 mg ibuprofen is what I was prescribed, but the pharmacist said it was the same as taking four 200 mg or close to 3 250 mg, so I bought the cheaper ones off the shelf.

I was a 4-12 Advil a day for years for neck and shoulder. 4 is the same as an 800mg Rx motrin.

I've had to quit because just a couple were giving me intense heartburn and without being too graphic, causing bleeding in my upper GI tract. The heartburn was becoming increasingly worse and increasingly scary.

I have switched to extra strength Tylenol and it does absolutely nothing.

I don't know what else to try... :bawl:
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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2010, 11:17:21 AM »
I was a 4-12 Advil a day for years for neck and shoulder. 4 is the same as an 800mg Rx motrin.

I've had to quit because just a couple were giving me intense heartburn and without being too graphic, causing bleeding in my upper GI tract. The heartburn was becoming increasingly worse and increasingly scary.

I have switched to extra strength Tylenol and it does absolutely nothing.

I don't know what else to try... :bawl:

Try bromelain.  It is also suppose to help with heartburn.  Google bromelain and neck/shoulder pain.  I think ibuprofen (as well as prescription anti-inflammatory meds) caused my tinnitus. 

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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2010, 11:23:06 AM »
Try bromelain.  It is also suppose to help with heartburn.  Google bromelain and neck/shoulder pain.  I think ibuprofen (as well as prescription anti-inflammatory meds) caused my tinnitus. 

I will check it out....thanks.

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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2010, 01:15:43 PM »
I can't use a chiropractor per my rheumatologist because of my stents.  When I took a shower this morning it made it feel better for a little while then the pain is back.  If I sit still and don't move there isn't any pain.  If I take a deep breath it hurts.  When my husband was rubbing the area I felt kind of an electrical "jolt" (for lack of a better word).  Could it be a pinched nerve?  

Yep! Sounds like the sciatic nerve. Sometimes a muscle relaxer will help. I've never had much luck with the ice/heat thing, but I have 6 screws in mine.

Me thinks if it doesn't ease up, you're gonna have to break down and get an x-ray. Don't wait too long as you could make it worse if it is a disc. Don't like the electric shock part. The older we get, the easier it is to slip one.
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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2010, 01:22:40 PM »
I get "electric shocks" in my legs almost every night. It's called, "myoclonus". I've recently gone back to an old medication I was taking and quit for two years in order to seek some relief. One can't imagine receiving an "electric shock" every couple or three minutes for hours at a time when one is attempting to go to sleep. During the day, it doesn't bother me.
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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2010, 01:28:17 PM »
Try bromelain.  It is also suppose to help with heartburn.  Google bromelain and neck/shoulder pain.  I think ibuprofen (as well as prescription anti-inflammatory meds) caused my tinnitus. 

I've been taking 20mg omeprazole for 8 years, as the meds I'm on cause severe heartburn, with no ill effects. The omepraz stops it completely as long as I take it once a day. You can buy it over the counter, too! Helluva lot cheaper than all the commercial brands!
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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2010, 01:28:41 PM »
Vicodin worked wonders for my lower back pain, knee pain, osteoarthritis, for a while. However, I reached a point where I became "used to it". If it's muscular, the muscle relaxer works fine. If it's joint/bone related, Vicodin works mo betta.

The problem with Vicodin is that like all opiates, it is highly addictive, and as you mentioned, with prolonged use, your body builds up a tolerance for it, requiring higher and higher doses to create the same effect......the end of that road isn't pretty.

When I had severe degenerative back pain (for an entire year), my GP referred me to a local "Pain Center".....and to a particular Doc at the center, that he said was excellent.  They did a lumbar MRI, and the guy gave me two intra-spinal steriod injections (while I was layinng on a floroscopic table).......within fifteen minutes, the pain was gone, and has not returned for two years......truly an amazing result.

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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2010, 01:40:21 PM »
The problem with Vicodin is that like all opiates, it is highly addictive, and as you mentioned, with prolonged use, your body builds up a tolerance for it, requiring higher and higher doses to create the same effect......the end of that road isn't pretty.

When I had severe degenerative back pain (for an entire year), my GP referred me to a local "Pain Center".....and to a particular Doc at the center, that he said was excellent.  They did a lumbar MRI, and the guy gave me two intra-spinal steriod injections (while I was layinng on a floroscopic table).......within fifteen minutes, the pain was gone, and has not returned for two years......truly an amazing result.

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I've had that done a coupla times, but it always comes back after about a week. Glad to see yours worked!

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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2010, 01:55:27 PM »
I get "electric shocks" in my legs almost every night. It's called, "myoclonus". I've recently gone back to an old medication I was taking and quit for two years in order to seek some relief. One can't imagine receiving an "electric shock" every couple or three minutes for hours at a time when one is attempting to go to sleep. During the day, it doesn't bother me.

My husband's cousin has peripheral neuropathy of her legs and feet.  She was a big drug user in the 80's and early 90's and that is what her doctor says it is from.  She can't work so her mom has to support her.  It's pretty dang sad. 

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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2010, 02:11:27 PM »
I get "electric shocks" in my legs almost every night. It's called, "myoclonus". I've recently gone back to an old medication I was taking and quit for two years in order to seek some relief. One can't imagine receiving an "electric shock" every couple or three minutes for hours at a time when one is attempting to go to sleep. During the day, it doesn't bother me.

While I was on methadone the shocks in my legs stopped. Now that I'm detoxing, they're back. What was ya takin'?
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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2010, 04:51:03 PM »
My husband's cousin has peripheral neuropathy of her legs and feet.  She was a big drug user in the 80's and early 90's and that is what her doctor says it is from.  She can't work so her mom has to support her.  It's pretty dang sad. 

She probably has a form of ataxia. There are some forms that are caused by chemical and alcohol abuse.
While I was on methadone the shocks in my legs stopped. Now that I'm detoxing, they're back. What was ya takin'?

Night before last, I took a Lyrica, a Flexiril, and a Vicodin. The twitching wouldn't stop. I slept and straight 9 hours!! (I'm usually up every 1½-2 hours for one reason or another) I took two Trazedone and it knocked me flat out. I felt pretty drugged up yesterday and sluggish. Last night, I didn't take the trazedone, but all of the others. I still slept pretty well getting five hours straight, woke up for a minute and another three hours with no twitching. It was probably carryover from the night before last. I'm going to have to experiment with dosages so I can get rid of that "drugged up" feeling but eliminate the twitching.
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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2010, 04:57:27 PM »
Ibuprofen is pretty hard on the liver. I take it for back pain and other routine aches and pains (when I can't stand it anymore), but I try to be watchful about Ibuprofen. I usually take 600 mg at a time, but no more than 1,200 per day. And no more than 3 days.
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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2010, 05:06:08 PM »
She probably has a form of ataxia. There are some forms that are caused by chemical and alcohol abuse.
Night before last, I took a Lyrica, a Flexiril, and a Vicodin. The twitching wouldn't stop. I slept and straight 9 hours!! (I'm usually up every 1½-2 hours for one reason or another) I took two Trazedone and it knocked me flat out. I felt pretty drugged up yesterday and sluggish. Last night, I didn't take the trazedone, but all of the others. I still slept pretty well getting five hours straight, woke up for a minute and another three hours with no twitching. It was probably carryover from the night before last. I'm going to have to experiment with dosages so I can get rid of that "drugged up" feeling but eliminate the twitching.


Flexiril is wonderful!!!! It works great on my neck, and I sleep for hours on that stuff....but my doctor won't let me take it all the time... :(

Can't take vicodin....I'm allergic to codeine so that's one of many that's never prescribed to me.



We all sound like a bunch of old-fart druggies on here comparing what we take for back/neck/leg pain.... :lmao:
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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2010, 05:06:26 PM »
She probably has a form of ataxia. There are some forms that are caused by chemical and alcohol abuse.
Night before last, I took a Lyrica, a Flexiril, and a Vicodin. The twitching wouldn't stop. I slept and straight 9 hours!! (I'm usually up every 1½-2 hours for one reason or another) I took two Trazedone and it knocked me flat out. I felt pretty drugged up yesterday and sluggish. Last night, I didn't take the trazedone, but all of the others. I still slept pretty well getting five hours straight, woke up for a minute and another three hours with no twitching. It was probably carryover from the night before last. I'm going to have to experiment with dosages so I can get rid of that "drugged up" feeling but eliminate the twitching.

Damn!!! I was hopin' it was somethin' simple. I go thru the same shirt! Lately 2 hrs is about as long as I can sleep. I have to get up and basically walk around until my legs get tired. Then I can usually get another 2 hrs. If I want to sleep 4 hrs nonstop, I have to take at least 20mg of Vicodin. It's becoming a routine. Wish there was a way to get rid of it without the opiates.
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Re: Question about back pain
« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2010, 09:08:01 PM »
The Doc pulled me off of Ibuprofen. He prefers I take Vicodin. As Eupher said, it's hard on one's liver and my liver stats are too high. I normally take one Vicodin at night. The most I've taken over the last couple of years is two/day. Sometimes if I have to make a trip to Dallas, I'll take another.  Trazedone is typically an anti-depressant, but it has a few off label uses. When I find the right combo that works for me, I'll let you know Allo.
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« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2010, 09:17:24 PM »
The Doc pulled me off of Ibuprofen. He prefers I take Vicodin. As Eupher said, it's hard on one's liver and my liver stats are too high. I normally take one Vicodin at night. The most I've taken over the last couple of years is two/day. Sometimes if I have to make a trip to Dallas, I'll take another.  Trazedone is typically an anti-depressant, but it has a few off label uses. When I find the right combo that works for me, I'll let you know Allo.

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« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2010, 11:39:25 AM »
Appreciate it! I'm always lookin' for solutions! I think sometimes, I've taken every drug known to mankind!

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« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2010, 11:48:45 AM »
Better living through chemistry, I always say!  :cheersmate:

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