Army Investigating Poisoned Food Plot

[DumbAss Tanker]

1. Islam is not a race.  Dislike of, distrust of, or even prejudice against it isn't RACISM, sir.

2. It seems to me that being a Crusader is not necessarily a bad thing, especially when the fact that the crusades were a direct response to Islamic hegemony in the first damned place is taken into the equation.  Ask Charles Martel some time, how "ashamed" he might be to be a crusader, throwing muslim invaders out of his lands.

I'm with Mushroom, and if Mexicans and Jews can claim they're 'races' (And they both do) the actual meaning of the word is so corrupted it means nothing with any anthropological precision at all, 'Muslim' is as close as either of them.  There's been some pretty vile stuff posted lately about slitting the throats of all of them down to the infants, which is totally unsat thinking.

[DefiantSix]

I'm with Mushroom, and if Mexicans and Jews can claim they're 'races' (And they both do) the actual meaning of the word is so corrupted it means nothing with any anthropological precision at all, 'Muslim' is as close as either of them.  There's been some pretty vile stuff posted lately about slitting the throats of all of them down to the infants, which is totally unsat thinking.

Just because 99% of the "Muslim Street" aren't pointing guns at the guys with the white hats doesn't make them allies in the war on terror, sir.  The biggest reason that all of al Qaeda isn't a greasy smear on a rock somewhere is that they seem to have no shortage of accomplices who will allow these vermin to hide behind them when Uncle Sam's fist comes looking to scoop them up, feed them worship with them, treat their wounds, supply the materials needed for carrying on the jihad - from video tape for Osama bin Slapnuts to rant on to the "common household chemicals in the proper proportions".  And let's not forget the care they provide for jihadist's families, so that they can focus on the mission of killing infidels for Allah.

So long as the vast majority of Islam stands silently as a crowd for Islamofascists to blend into, the vast majority of Islam is the enemy; whether it's politically correct to say so or not.
 
Oh; and the "vile stuff" that gets posted doesn't raise an eyebrow with me so much as the vile, hideous barbaric attrocities that the "peaceful" followers of Islam have actually done under license of their religion and culture.

[Mushroom]

1. Islam is not a race.  Dislike of, distrust of, or even prejudice against it isn't RACISM, sir.

2. It seems to me that being a Crusader is not necessarily a bad thing, especially when the fact that the crusades were a direct response to Islamic hegemony in the first damned place is taken into the equation.  Ask Charles Martel some time, how "ashamed" he might be to be a crusader, throwing muslim invaders out of his lands.

OK, then let me be accurate, it is Islamophobia.

And do not confuse the claimed reason for the Crusades with the truth, that there were many reasons.  Among them the desire to push back the expanding Arab empires, an excess of sons in the European nobility (who could not inherit land so had to conquer their own), and the preaching of the Church to convert by the sword.

And they were about taking the "Holy Lands" from the Muslims, not retaking Muslim conquered land. 

[DumbAss Tanker]

Oh; and the "vile stuff" that gets posted doesn't raise an eyebrow with me so much as the vile, hideous barbaric attrocities that the "peaceful" followers of Islam have actually done under license of their religion and culture.

Killing the innocent does not bring back or in any way redress the death of other innocents, it only pours gas on a fire.

[Linda]

UPDATE:

http://blogs.cbn.com/stakelbeckonterror/archive/2010/02/19/fort-jackson-the-latest.aspx


Fort Jackson: The Latest

Erick Stakelbeck
CBN News Terrorism Analyst



This morning, I spoke to Army CID spokesman Christopher Gray and learned more details about a possible poisoning plot that I first reported here yesterday after CBN confirmed with Patrick Jones of Fort Jackson's Public Affairs Office and a reliable source with intimate knowledge of the investigation. Here is the latest on what we do know.

According to Gray, the Army is investigating allegations that a group of soldiers from the 09 Lima program (more on that later in this post) at Fort Jackson--which is based in South Carolina--had talked about poisoning food in the base's mess hall. The men were questioned about two months ago, around Christmas. Gray said that to protect the integrity of the investigation, he could not comment further. He stressed that the investigation is "open and continuing."

CBN News also spoke to a Department of Homeland Security official with knowledge of the investigation who wished to remain anonymous. The official confirmed that the investigation was ongoing and said that someone in the Lima 09 program overheard five Muslim colleagues talking about poisoning food at the base. The person then reported the men, who were brought in for questioning.

The DHS official stressed that after the terrorist massacre at Fort Hood, the Army is taking a zero tolerance policy towards any potential threatening statements and is now extremely sensitive about any allegations in that regard.

Terrorism expert Patrick Poole, an anti-terrorism consultant for the U.S. military and law enforcement,  told CBN News that "if this incident had become public in late December while the military was still working on the Ft. Hood report it would  have no doubt been catastrophic. What exactly happened at Ft. Jackson and why is this only coming out now? That's a question that Congress should be asking. "

"As noted in the Washington Times last month,"  Poole continued. "My colleagues and I have been warning of jihadist threats - both external and internal - for several years. The Pentagon has entirely ignored us and the Ft. Hood report released last month is evidence of the culture of willful blindness that wants to pretend this threat doesn't exist. Regardless of how the Ft. Jackson incident is resolved, it demonstrates that this threat is not going away."

I spoke today to Army spokesman Christopher Garver, who said the five men are not currently in custody. He was unclear whether the men who were questioned were U.S.citizens. And that brings us to another interesting wrinkle to this story.

According to my colleague, CBN Military Correspondent Chuck Holton, the 09 Lima program, which these men are a part of:


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...is specifically geared towards non-US citizens who bring to the table one very in-demand skill - the ability to speak fluent Arabic, Dari, Pashto, or some other needed language.  But these recruits also have a handicap - their grasp of the English language is not sufficient to allow them to make it through basic training.  So the 09 Lima program puts them through a sort of pre-basic basic, where they learn American culture, Army culture and work on their English language skills.  Once they finish the course, they are then able to enter normal basic training.  It' is a very small program, with something less than forty recruits in each class.

Holton continues:


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Here's the interesting part.  According to Lt. Col. Frank Demith, these recruits are offered an "expedited citizenship program, once they serve one day of honorable active duty."

Military service has always been a way for non-citizen US residents to obtain citizenship, and thousands have performed honorably in service to our country before it actually became their country.

Though the Army must certainly have a thorough vetting process in place to try and avoid a scenario like that described by Erick Stakelbeck's recent blog, in the case of the 09 Lima program, the ability to receive "expedited American citizenship" must present a tempting opportunity for jihadi extremists with ulterior motives.

This is relevant not only because of the Fort Hood case, but because in the last month, there was an incident (see here) of an interpreter in Afghanistan murdering U.S. troops.

[Thor]

OK, then let me be accurate, it is Islamophobia.

And do not confuse the claimed reason for the Crusades with the truth, that there were many reasons.  Among them the desire to push back the expanding Arab empires, an excess of sons in the European nobility (who could not inherit land so had to conquer their own), and the preaching of the Church to convert by the sword.

And they were about taking the "Holy Lands" from the Muslims, not retaking Muslim conquered land. 

Oh Lord, here we go, again. Let me make this clear. A "phobia" is a fear. I don't think that there are many here that truly "fear" Muslims. Let's find another word instead of some PC word dreamed up by the left winged idiots to marginalize those that loathe and disdain Islamic radicals.  One thing for certain, nobody I know "fears" Islamic Radicals. "Islamophobia", "Homophobia"  are words merely used to make us normal people "appear" insensitive or hateful. I don't like the homosexual lifestyle, either, and I'm NOT afraid of them.

[NHSparky]

To be more specific, a phobia is an IRRATIONAL fear.

Given the actions of the Muslim world for the last 40 years or so, would being cautious regarding the actions of said Muslims be irrational?

[Thor]

To be more specific, a phobia is an IRRATIONAL fear.

Given the actions of the Muslim world for the last 40 years or so, would being cautious regarding the actions of said Muslims be irrational?

I was trying to keep it simple. After all, I was replying to a Marine..........