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It's All Your Fault, Episode: 687
« on: January 21, 2010, 06:27:58 AM »
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NEW YORK – Americans are more than twice as likely to express prejudice against Muslims than they are against Christians, Jews or Buddhists, a new survey found. Nearly two-thirds of Americans say they have little or no knowledge of Islam. Still, a majority dislike the faith.

The analysis, for release Thursday, is from the Gallup World Religion Survey and is part of a project on finding ways to increase understanding between Americans and Muslims.

President Barack Obama and his administration want to improve America's image in the Muslim world. Many analysts who study extremism also say that U.S. Muslims who feel alienated from broader society resist integrating, potentially becoming more vulnerable to radical ideas.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100121/ap_on_re/us_rel_muslims_prejudice

Got that?

If, for some inscrutable reason, you were leery of Islam it is prejudice. There is no reason you should ever have any reason to be susect of Islam or Muslims. And because of your prejudice--which has no basis except for your own shortcomings--you alienate Muslims. This in turn could lead to them becoming radicalized...a thing that never would had except for your wholly baseless prejudices. There would be no radical Muslims except for your prejudice. Not that this should in any way be construed to say Islam leads to radicalization.

It's just you.

It's all your fault.
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Re: It's All Your Fault, Episode: 687
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2010, 07:08:41 AM »
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Still, a majority dislike the faith.

How silly of we Americans. I know that as I watched those c###suckers cut Nick Berg's head off all I felt was great love and compassion. /s  :bird:

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Re: It's All Your Fault, Episode: 687
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2010, 07:17:03 AM »
How silly of we Americans. I know that as I watched those c###suckers cut Nick Berg's head off all I felt was great love and compassion. /s  :bird:






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Re: It's All Your Fault, Episode: 687
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2010, 07:21:29 AM »




I have to work on my open-mindedness, I guess.

Me too....do I open his head from the top or the bottom?
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Re: It's All Your Fault, Episode: 687
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2010, 08:24:07 AM »
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Still, a majority dislike the faith.



Gee, can't imagine why....
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Re: It's All Your Fault, Episode: 687
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2010, 09:01:46 AM »


Gee, can't imagine why....


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Re: It's All Your Fault, Episode: 687
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2010, 09:11:46 AM »
How silly of we Americans. I know that as I watched those c###suckers cut Nick Berg's head off all I felt was great love and compassion. /s  :bird:


It is said the same thing happend to the Spanish who after their invasion of South America felt great revulsion for the religious practices of those they slaughtered, inslaved and stole from.    

Letters back to the Court tell of the horror the Invaders felt at the barbarity of the Savage's  and they had to burn to death thousands of them out of disgust.  

I do not blame Islam for these dastardly throw backs to 1500 or so years ago and the survival methods they used then to make it to today's world.   It is not the faith to blame anymore then we can be unchristian because of the things done on behalf of the faith  by the Spanish.

I cannot judge Christianity by looking at the subgroups, the Aryn Nation or any hate group who operate under the umbrella of religion.

What the Muslem world has to contend with today makes the believers between a rock and a hard place.  The Muslim who is living in the world of technology but forced by their faith to live as their ancestors did 1000 years ago,   Sort of like if all Christians were to demand to be able to live according to rules of the early faith and times from the OLD to the NEW Testament.

I forgot that the Amish do well at this only because the Government allows them to do so.   Our Government could easily forbid horse drawn carriages on the roads, could if inclined go in and take children from a home with no running water, electricity, telephone, and the kids had to actually make their own clothing.  [ I know off topic]

There is a movement, very secetrive about the world to bring that faith into our times. I have heard muttering among the faithfull, these people are scared to death to do anything that could have severe consequences for the family's they left behind. It is happening, the people still wear their garb and pray 5 times a day, but it is only the odd ball that kills their family for a slight to Mohamed.      

What we are seeing today is an ancient faith splitting apart from the base roots and the TRADITIONS of long ago.   The basis of the belief was as all belief in GOD a survival method for its time.    Muslims fear Westernization, it could mean the end of their Traditions, not faith but an end to life's way of living  as it has been for all this time.

We are about to wittiness a falling out of ideas as we saw the Christian Church split with a hundred other ideas on faith  all still hanging on to the roots of the faith but not willing to allow humans to interpret for them GODS word.

The Jews still follow the same Old Testament that Christians do, but I see no fall back to those times.   I have never heard of Israel invoking the Eye for an Eye, stoning of people or any of the harsh treatment that they and Christians read about.

We have got ourselves in a mess here, an ancient faith and people attacked us and we refuse to believe this is, as by the Emmey's own words. a religious war.

Last I heard the Civil War was the only war we ever became engaged in by recruiting men for a religious and moral war.    The thousands that died in that war were not in it for money, land or to support a political platform.   They had a mission, Onward Christiann Solders to fight for Country and Church.

So If we are not caught up in a religious war, we are caught up in something I do not understand.







 
  



  






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Re: It's All Your Fault, Episode: 687
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2010, 09:22:47 AM »


Seems to me that Islam, CAIR, and the rest of the ROP movement makes no condemnation of those who blow shit up and saw heads off in the name of Allah.

Betcher ass if someone were doing it in the name of Jesus they'd be denounced in about a millionth of a ****ing second by anyone with an iota of sense in any Christian denomination--witness how fast people were dogpiling on Pat Robertson when he made his asshat statement the other day.
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Re: It's All Your Fault, Episode: 687
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2010, 09:40:26 AM »


Seems to me that Islam, CAIR, and the rest of the ROP movement makes no condemnation of those who blow shit up and saw heads off in the name of Allah.

Betcher ass if someone were doing it in the name of Jesus they'd be denounced in about a millionth of a ****ing second by anyone with an iota of sense in any Christian denomination--witness how fast people were dogpiling on Pat Robertson when he made his asshat statement the other day.

Had a conversation with someone recently about the complete lack of condemnation (notice society DEMANDS it from any other religion?)... Told the person to STFU about the tensions until they were willing to stand up. Didn't go over well.

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Re: It's All Your Fault, Episode: 687
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2010, 10:04:18 AM »
We've (the US) been fighting Islam radicals since the days of Jefferson. Islamic pirates invaded the European shores of France, Italy, Spain and even as far North as England in order to rape, pillage and plunder these countries. They even took slaves from the European continent. I won't even get into the number of slaves taken in the name of Islam from the African continent. And yet, who, of all peoples, are joining the Islamic ranks en masse?? Black people....... IMO, Islam has done little for mankind except for stealing and improving algebraic mathematics.
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Re: It's All Your Fault, Episode: 687
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2010, 01:38:04 PM »
That is such BULLSHIT! Everywhere I look, some PC asshole is kissing islam's ass while Christians get crap for expressing their faith or what the Bible says. It has always been a double standard.



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Re: It's All Your Fault, Episode: 687
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2010, 05:53:06 PM »
That is such BULLSHIT! Everywhere I look, some PC asshole is kissing islam's ass while Christians get crap for expressing their faith or what the Bible says. It has always been a double standard.

But consider this... Jesus warned that would happen.

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Re: It's All Your Fault, Episode: 687
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2010, 05:55:40 PM »
But consider this... Jesus warned that would happen.
At least they've had it better than the jews.

I feel for those poor bastards.
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Re: It's All Your Fault, Episode: 687
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2010, 09:10:39 AM »
At least they've had it better than the jews.

I feel for those poor bastards.

Not me, I ADMIRE them and the tenacity they have held for thousands of years.

They were told they would have the trials and tribulations and they prepared for them. They have held the faith intact, for their own never expecting others to convert or live as they do.

God is personal for them, no street side preaching or attempts to convert the heathen among us.

Do you find it strange that most Christian Churches will teach from the Prophets of the Jews.?
Christians have a new Covenant through Jesus, yet they still go back to the old Covenant to teach their faith.

Muslim takes both Old and New beliefs and adds in their Prophet and built a tradition of their own.

No problem for me with that faith, it is the social traditions and rules that come from man, not God that annoy me.  The subjection of woman, the insane tradition of alteration of little girl's has never anyone pointed out to these people that God makes people perfect and to alter the very body God gave them them is a way of saying that God made a mistake.?  No one points out that to alter the body of a human is a slap in the face of God.

Christianity has many doors, we have had problems and mud slinging with in the different demonations since we first came to America.   Way back when the children of our founding fathers caused a stink when they left one denomination for another because of a falling out on interpretation of the faith.

Quakers, Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah Witnesses, Baptists, Unitarians that began in the 1700's the Pentecostal groups and on and on.

The biggest difference in the big 3 faiths is that Judaism is a personal faith, Christianity is a comunity based faith, and Islam is a faith that goes both ways but does it with violence.


The Jews just want to be left alone but are one of the first to give aid to non-Jews in a time of trial, the Christians want to spread light and hope to others and those of Islam goes the road of Convert or DIE.

The Jews did not start a Holy War, the Christians did not start a Holy War, the everyday Muslem did not start a Holy War, it comes from the branches of Muslim that use their faith as a path to riches power and dominance. 

The Jews have their radical people, the Christians have the Ilk of Pat Robinson, Jimmy Swaggart and the growing problem with Pedophiles in the Catholic Church.    The Muslims have any number of leaders that demand controll of their own people down to what hand to use to pee.

The Muslem faith is out of controll today, like that long ago warrior [ Was it Alexander] who stated that to conquer a land, one must first replace their Gods with those of the invaders. 

My faith encompasses all 3 faiths for the base,
belief, not the traditions built around them.

One God that wears many Hats. The tower of babble saw to it that the name of God would be different to all society's.  Christians have the trinity, God, Son and Holy Ghost. [ to be fair this was a man made idea at the Diet at Worms.]

Muslims have Mohammad and he is right up there with Allah.   Christians have Jesus right up there with -----what ever name you have for God.

Jews are interesting, they have their prophets and the laws these humans passed on as a personal message for them.  However, their Prophets told them to get ready to live a harsh, hard life.   It was up to the individual to dig their way out.  The road of life was set down for them, God gave them a weapon to use, their brain and human ingenuity.   

 Free will, so to speak, like a father tells his children, I have given you life and the ability to control your life. There is no way a parent can keep their children from danger or death.  There is still a Father to appeal to, but perhaps  a father that may have other plans. Undisclosed but will down the line help the family.

Christians went and morphed into a faith that has saved humanity through War, Disease and famine.    I hate to think of what would have become of Humanity without the Christian folk that have for century's hidden people of other faiths in their attics,

I would think that when it comes down to the nittie -grittie, all 3 faiths teach love  and peace.

It is the the Sects within every faith that are the problem.    They remind me of the abusive husband that demands complete controll of a wife or else they will kill them.  They think of this as love, They demand their respect and their returned love., but they give the wife no free will.

Whatever Muslim Men follow the rules that insure THEIR comfort in life.   Things are changing as the legal slave's wives-----are moving out into the western world.  Their children will follow the faith but rebel when their free will is controlled  by anyone.

Interesting times to watch as a religion  breaks apart, the same changes as the Christians went through.      This has become a religious war waged by a few powerful men in the Muslem faith.     Millions of their followers do not agree,  but have no recourse.

For America to fight and give great power to these few crazes is beyond me.