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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #75 on: January 16, 2010, 09:52:03 PM »
I prefer to think of myself as more a George Washington Liberal Federalist with a 21st century perspective.


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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #76 on: January 16, 2010, 10:00:03 PM »
the 60's liberal crowd were the "summer of love" sex, drugs, and rock and roll. anti-war crowd (now all grown up as "progressives") that wouldn't be caught dead in a Navy uniform......

You need scare quotes around "grown up"

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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #77 on: January 16, 2010, 10:00:17 PM »
I prefer to think of myself as more a George Washington Liberal Federalist with a 21st century perspective.


I hate 60's music.

You should fit in fine around here.......I'm not crazy about  60's music myself.

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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #78 on: January 16, 2010, 10:02:24 PM »
I prefer to think of myself as more a George Washington Liberal Federalist with a 21st century perspective.

So what do you think about how president Washington sent the troops after the whiskey makers who didn't want to pay his higher taxes?

Are you okay with the federal government doing that?

Just asking.

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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #79 on: January 16, 2010, 10:05:31 PM »
You should fit in fine around here.......I'm not crazy about  60's music myself.

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Well Steppenwolf is the exception.
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #80 on: January 16, 2010, 10:09:35 PM »
Thor.....we really should split this thread.......we actually have a sensible discussion going on in the "Billy bashing thread"......we just can't interrupt the folks fun with their chew toy......

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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #81 on: January 16, 2010, 10:12:52 PM »
So what do you think about how president Washington sent the troops after the whiskey makers who didn't want to pay his higher taxes?

Are you okay with the federal government doing that?

Just asking.


I'm NOT Ok with the government doing that

but,

law and government are a necessity for any functional nation, his duty as chief executive was to enforce the laws of the land.
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #82 on: January 16, 2010, 10:14:29 PM »
Thor.....we really should split this thread.......we actually have a sensible discussion going on in the "Billy bashing thread"......we just can't interrupt the folks fun with their chew toy......

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My apologies


Didn't mean to derail Billy Bash Fest. 


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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #83 on: January 16, 2010, 10:17:50 PM »

My apologies


Didn't mean to derail Billy Bash Fest. 




Quite alright......Its just hard to reconcile this conversation when you look at the previous eight pages......and Billy ain't around right now.....

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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #84 on: January 16, 2010, 10:46:07 PM »

So this is supposed to prove that ALL do?


That is the very basic concept of leftism as it has come to be. It is a fantasists utopianism that blames all the bad things on "others" while proclaiming to solve all the problems of the world, even though their ideology would make them all worse.

ALL? Yep. That is the whole point.

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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #85 on: January 17, 2010, 07:29:32 AM »

I don't have a beef with conservatism.  I just don't agree with it on all issues.


Mostly social conservatism.

Okay, which aspects, specifically?

Abortion?  Criminal punishment?  Second amendment (obviously not given your other posts)?
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #86 on: January 17, 2010, 10:23:57 AM »
Meh, I don't know what the **** this guy thinks he is...besides somebody who likes to type a lot.
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #87 on: January 17, 2010, 10:55:53 AM »
Meh, I don't know what the **** this guy thinks he is...besides somebody who likes to type a lot.

He's "nuanced."


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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #88 on: January 17, 2010, 10:58:44 AM »

I don't have a beef with conservatism.  I just don't agree with it on all issues.


Mostly social conservatism.

Yeah God forbid things like morality values and the absolutes of life get in the way with your feel good Liberalism side right?
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #89 on: January 17, 2010, 12:04:20 PM »


Am I required to bring the matches?

no...we have our own.
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« Reply #90 on: January 17, 2010, 05:30:06 PM »
Meh, I don't know what the **** this guy thinks he is...besides somebody who likes to type a lot.


That doesn't surprise me.
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #91 on: January 17, 2010, 05:33:09 PM »
Okay, which aspects, specifically?

Abortion?  Criminal punishment?  Second amendment (obviously not given your other posts)?


Well of what you've mentioned.....


Abortion  -  Pro Choice


Criminal punishment  -  Pro Death Penalty


And as you mentioned, you're already familiar with my stance on 2nd Am rights.
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #92 on: January 17, 2010, 05:55:53 PM »
Meh, I don't know what the **** this guy thinks he is...besides somebody who likes to type a lot.

Or.....perhaps he finds it entertaining to make you guys type alot........

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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #93 on: January 17, 2010, 07:01:53 PM »

Well of what you've mentioned.....


Abortion  -  Pro Choice


Criminal punishment  -  Pro Death Penalty



So how can you support punishment for crimes like murder in one instance yet defend murder in another?

Hypocrisy much?
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #94 on: January 17, 2010, 07:06:18 PM »
So how can you support punishment for crimes like murder in one instance yet defend murder in another?

Hypocrisy much?

They don't view the infant in the womb as a living human being, and therefore can't be murdered.
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« Reply #95 on: January 17, 2010, 07:19:18 PM »
They don't view the infant in the womb as a living human being, and therefore can't be murdered.

As the father of six who was there to witness four of them come into the world...I can't find the words to tell them how wrong they are.
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #96 on: January 17, 2010, 07:36:23 PM »
They don't view the infant in the womb as a living human being, and therefore can't be murdered.

well its not a dog or a cat or a horse or a pig or a flea...

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« Reply #97 on: January 17, 2010, 07:42:11 PM »
As the father of six who was there to witness four of them come into the world...I can't find the words to tell them how wrong they are.

I know exactly what you mean.  I was there for the birth of both of my now adult children.  It is an experience that I lack the skills to properly convey on a message board.
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Re: Liberals politicizing tragedies for political gain
« Reply #98 on: January 17, 2010, 10:49:01 PM »
I prefer to think of myself as more a George Washington Liberal Federalist with a 21st century perspective.


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