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Re: cooking and baking primitives discuss a late member
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2010, 08:59:52 PM »
Ok, so this little hoo-ha is a bit difficult to follow; however, I think I grasp that a DU'er called Tangerine....(aka TLB), aka some chick named Annette, is said to have offed herself on Dec. 23rd, and there is some disagreement with her putative sister's account of TLB's life and death.  Correct?

So, am I correct that this seemingly dead TLB had a blog at this url:
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http://www.annetteappollo.com/?

If so, that would mean that this:


was a pic of TLB and, apparently, the last thing that got posted to the aforementioned blog on Dec. 15th, correct?

Aside from the rather patently obvious attempt to put a pseudo-halo around her own head, this photo is a little amusing, inasmuch as TLB apparently forgot to remove the ExIF metadata from the image before posting it.  Just in case anyone finds anything else interesting in that data, here is what I get when I run the image through my handy-dandy little utility, exiftool (from Phil Harvey):
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PS C:\Users\Oceander\Pictures> exiftool sepia-annette01.jpg
ExifTool Version Number         : 7.85
File Name                       : sepia-annette01.jpg
Directory                       : .
File Size                       : 35 kB
File Modification Date/Time     : 2010:01:02 21:22:53-05:00
File Type                       : JPEG
MIME Type                       : image/jpeg
Exif Byte Order                 : Little-endian (Intel, II)
Image Description               :
Make                            : SONY
Camera Model Name               : DSC-F828
Orientation                     : Horizontal (normal)
X Resolution                    : 72
Y Resolution                    : 72
Resolution Unit                 : inches
Modify Date                     : 2009:12:15 10:17:49
Y Cb Cr Positioning             : Co-sited
Exposure Time                   : 1/30
F Number                        : 2.0
Exposure Program                : Program AE
ISO                             : 64
Exif Version                    : 0220
Date/Time Original              : 2004:05:20 12:51:47
Create Date                     : 2004:05:20 12:51:47
Components Configuration        : Y, Cb, Cr, -
Compressed Bits Per Pixel       : 8
Exposure Compensation           : 0
Max Aperture Value              : 2.0
Metering Mode                   : Multi-segment
Light Source                    : Unknown
Flash                           : On, Red-eye reduction, Return detected
Focal Length                    : 7.1 mm
Warning                         : [minor] Possibly incorrect maker notes offsets (fix by -39?)
Flashpix Version                : 0100
Color Space                     : sRGB
Exif Image Width                : 412
Exif Image Height               : 373
Interoperability Index          : Unknown (....)
Interoperability Version        : .
File Source                     : Digital Camera
Scene Type                      : Directly photographed
Custom Rendered                 : Normal
Exposure Mode                   : Auto
White Balance                   : Auto
Scene Capture Type              : Standard
Contrast                        : Normal
Saturation                      : Normal
Sharpness                       : Normal
Compression                     : JPEG (old-style)
Thumbnail Offset                : 2392
Thumbnail Length                : 5436
Image Width                     : 412
Image Height                    : 373
Encoding Process                : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample                 : 8
Color Components                : 3
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling            : YCbCr4:4:4 (1 1)
Aperture                        : 2.0
Image Size                      : 412x373
Shutter Speed                   : 1/30
Thumbnail Image                 : (Binary data 5436 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Focal Length                    : 7.1 mm
Light Value                     : 7.6
PS C:\Users\Oceander\Pictures>

Just to clarify some of the dates in that data:  (1) the "File Modification Date/Time" date is when I d/l'ed it from that blog; (2) the "Modify Date" date is the last time that someone actually modified the image data contained in the file, which would be Dec. 15, 2009, and is therefore consistent with the posting date shown on the blog (it was either resized for use online, or that might have been when the sepia effect and the silly light-halo effect were added); and (3) the "Date/Time Original" date is the date on which the original picture was taken, which would make that image about five and a half years old, as the original date was May 20th, 2004, at 12.51 (most likely in the afternoon, as the file records time in 24-hour format; however, that would have been the camera's onboard time, so there's no guarantee that it corresponded properly to the actual local time at the time the picture was taken).

The picture itself was taken with a Sony DSC-F828, an 8 megapixel camera that was released in August 2003, originally retailed for about US$900, and looked like this:


Given that it was most likely taken in the afternoon, it was probably taken inside, as the flash went off, with obligatory red-eye reduction (not sure why, probably just a lazy photographer, which we can confirm because the pic was taken using the program AE mode), with an exposure time of 1/30th of a second, at an ISO of 64.

EDIT:  Playing around with the image in GIMP, using duplicates as filters in various ways, brought out an interesting aspect of the image that is not readily apparent from the original:  somebody did a fair amount of editing around the neckline of the image, as well as on the inside edge of the person's right sunglass lens, as indicated by the pixelated appearance of those areas in this filtered version of the original image:


FWIW, I obtained that image by duping the original, inverting the values of that duplicate, and then layering the inverted duplicate over the original as a dodge filter.

It also becomes more evident that the shot was taken during the daytime, as you can now pretty clearly see that the sunglasses are reflecting a set of windows (commercial space, maybe), with daylight coming in, and a tree in the middle distance that is fully leafed in (which would be consistent with the May date of the original from the ExIF data).
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Re: cooking and baking primitives discuss a late member
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2010, 09:16:15 PM »
I'm not knocking Oceander.  This story just gets weirder and weirder.  I sure would like to know what really happened here.
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Re: cooking and baking primitives discuss a late member
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2010, 09:18:20 PM »
I'm not knocking Oceander.  This story just gets weirder and weirder.  I sure would like to know what really happened here.

The truth always outs.

In the meantime, it should be a great lot of fun.
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Re: cooking and baking primitives discuss a late member
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2010, 09:35:14 PM »
WOW.  I don't know what to make of all that.

Interesting for sure.
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Re: cooking and baking primitives discuss a late member
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2010, 09:40:37 PM »
I'm not knocking Oceander.  This story just gets weirder and weirder.  I sure would like to know what really happened here.

No kidding.  Just out of curiosity, anyone recognize the brand of sunglasses in that image?  If I really get funky with the filtering, I think I can almost make out a name of some sort on the left earpiece of the glasses, where it goes dark in that orange-tinted filter version of the pic - but then again, that could just be my nosey parker's imagination turning noise into apparent patterns.

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Re: cooking and baking primitives discuss a late member
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2010, 09:54:59 PM »
I'm in the middle of rebuilding my image and music PC (I'm typing this on my game system, a heavily modified arcade game machine) and will be more than happy to give this image a once over myself once I have my tools back. - Itll be a Q8400 Core2 Quad once I'm done - parts are on the way.

The computer keeled over a few months back, but since we were coming into Christmas, I didn't have the disposable income to invest in a rebuild. ill be thrilled to no longer type messages on a 27 inch low resolution display device. Great for games - horrible for the web.

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Re: cooking and baking primitives discuss a late member
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2010, 10:05:03 PM »
I'm in the middle of rebuilding my image and music PC (I'm typing this on my game system, a heavily modified arcade game machine) and will be more than happy to give this image a once over myself once I have my tools back. - Itll be a Q8400 Core2 Quad once I'm done - parts are on the way.

The computer keeled over a few months back, but since we were coming into Christmas, I didn't have the disposable income to invest in a rebuild. ill be thrilled to no longer type messages on a 27 inch low resolution display device. Great for games - horrible for the web.

Nice system!  Not running the new Nehalem/i7 processors?  Or am I just woefully out-of-date with Intel's number system now?

I'm running on an HP 17" laptop that's got a nice little P8600@2.4GHz - picked it up for about $1,100 all in 6 months ago and, considering everything else it has in it, it was a sleeper of a deal.  Much, much better, at any rate, than my last system, which was a 2003 vintage Sony VAIO Z1A with a banias-class centrino cpu in it (1.3GHz - even the gerbils were faster).

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Re: cooking and baking primitives discuss a late member (update 01-03)
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2010, 07:09:52 AM »
Update; it's necessary to repeat some primitive comments already quoted, for continuity:

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Tab  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 03:03 PM
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19. Somehow I missed this part of the controversy
 
Although I'm getting it now. I did wonder why the mods locked the thread at my post where I clarified to someone that she wasn't TS'd, but was dead, but now I see there's way more to the story.

Generally DU frowns on speculation of former members, certainly disallows it if they were TS'd, tolerates it if it was an honest death (like Kephra) but this falls in the cracks somewhere and we're a subforum, so...

I'm not a professional psychologist, although I've had my fingers full with certain abnormal cases, but something about this strikes me of DID. That's Disassociative Identify Disorder, or what we used to call Split Personality (the name got an upgrade). That's the only want I can see the total encompassing, perhaps for years, and the switch to different embodiments, still with a common thread, and the cracked sister popping out of the closet when other personalities get strangled. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what it seems like. May a certified psychiatrist or psychologist correct me please.

As a former mod, I will just say we saw our share of people coming in under different personalities and identities, but it was the very rare person who would keep it up for a long period of time, and no one, to my knowledge, did it in this fashion or to this degree. This is why I think there's an actual psychological disorder at play here, keeping that the rest of the posts on the matter and encounters are basically true.

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27. Yes. That occurred to me as well. Especially considering that one of these incarnations was a friend and that the latest/last one was extremely abusive. It was clearly the same individual but not the same individual. Sad all the way around.

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la la  (1000+ posts)     Sat Jan-02-10 03:54 PM
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28. annette had one sister, who, as she has 'outed' herself here, is- in my book- certifiably crazy....and i've known that for years.

annette tried to distance herself from her sister, because of her sister's mental issues, i've already mentioned that.

annette's sister, carol, along with having mental issues was very jealous of annette---annette had the chances/choices because of her intellect---her sister carol did not. carol married a boy from 'home' , who managed to treat her poorly ( yes, even though in her profile, she mentions---in caps of all things--that's she's been married to happily for 49 years --this is another phrase that she constantly uses---'married happily' who gives a .....) anywayS, back to the sister issues. annette became a 'success'---carol did not---annette had a life, carol apparently didn't.

carol always thought that anyone who made sense, had something worthwhile to say---something in the DEMOCRATIC vein ;>  was annette----she accused me of being/posting as annette many times---if only i could write like annette---and had the intelligence like annette....

whatever issues annette might have had---they were pale beside the issues of her sister, carol/wabanisa- who was hovering and ready to spring up out of her personal hades to get back at her sister.

i really am trying to let this go---but it won't until carol/wabanisa is out of the DU picture.

Well, the grieving sister's welcome to enter the CC picture.

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29. "Carol" seems to be a very competent writer, herself.

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la la  (1000+ posts)     Sat Jan-02-10 04:40 PM
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30. she's practiced that 'bit' for years---word for word---she should get it right---and i'm not being sarcastic---i can't count the number of times over the years that she's posted that exact same info- phrased the same way, etc--in various and sundry message boards----always to diss annette. over and over and over........

she even called herself 'dis' on some of the boards---when she wasn't having her 'happily married spouse' posting for her---or changing her posting name to something else---but she was so easy to decipher---everyone on any particular message board knew it was either her or the hubby.

annette was snarky---but carol is evil, jealous, dense and getting back atcha snarky....the hate and jealousy has been percolating in her a long time- probably since annette was born , and i think most of the readers here know what happens to people when they allow that to occur.

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EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 05:52 PM
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32. Well, that is one side of a story.

There seems to have been a bit of "practice" on both/all sides of this.

I've mentioned before that I moderated a mental health group for families and everyone in the family was welcomed to post there. We had more than one person who was DID. And we also had one much beloved member who turned out to actually suffer from all the behaviors/problems that he'd been recounting about his wife for four years.

This was someone I knew IRL, whom I met, whom we traveled with for meetups in other states. A charming, gentle and very talented musician.

I didn't care about him less after that. But it was a good lesson in how little it's possible to really know about such a complicated situation even when you are in the same room with it.

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la la  (1000+ posts)     Sat Jan-02-10 07:31 PM
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34. i've mentioned maybe here--but on DU elsewhere that annette DID have issues.

i'm not really appreciating someone who is not a mental health practitioner deciding/diagnosing what the problems were with annette and her sister, and doing it here.

but--then- that's me and i pretty much did know what was going on.

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EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 07:39 PM
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35. Right. If you look at my post again you'll notice that I pretty carefully didn't diagnose or decide but simply related my experience to you. There was no offense or judgment intended.

Touchy, touchy.

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Mira  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jan-02-10 06:45 PM
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33. Here is a snippet in Annette's words:

She was explaining her sister Carol to me.

quote from a letter to me many months ago:

"I couldn't trust her, and everything she did was with the intention of undermining me. No matter what.

When I left my husband - a man she'd met twice, maybe three times - she called him to tell him that he was far better off without me. Even he - a prick - was appalled by her. That's what she did then."

You see, folks, this was when Annette was about 23 or so. Carol was on a tear already in her late twenties to bring harm to Annette.

Annette married this man Lawrence Porter, her teacher, at 20 or so, he had two children and was 20 years older.

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EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jan-03-10 12:43 AM
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37. And I wonder how you can take the word of someone who lied so many times as true?

Yep, that's the same problem franksolich has always had with Doug's ex-wife.
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Re: cooking and baking primitives discuss a late member
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2010, 11:07:32 AM »
Nice system!  Not running the new Nehalem/i7 processors?  Or am I just woefully out-of-date with Intel's number system now?

I'm running on an HP 17" laptop that's got a nice little P8600@2.4GHz - picked it up for about $1,100 all in 6 months ago and, considering everything else it has in it, it was a sleeper of a deal.  Much, much better, at any rate, than my last system, which was a 2003 vintage Sony VAIO Z1A with a banias-class centrino cpu in it (1.3GHz - even the gerbils were faster).

I chose to go with the lower cost Conroe architecture - the Nehalem i7 CPUs are still out of budget for me. Not to mention I have had good luck with the C2D that is in the game system - its stable overclocked to 4Ghz per core ( Its a stock 3ghz CPU - E6850) and has been that way running 24/7 for the last couple of years. Air cooled too - It just has a gigantic heatsink/fan mounted on it and lots of room to breathe. Im sure I can get more out of the Q8400 with a little creative cooling. My only problem with the Q8400 is the onboard cache is lower than Id like it to be, but its better than nothing (which is what I have right now) - And I can swap a better CPU in later if so inclined.

As for the laptop - I wouldn't wish 1.3Ghz on anybody. Hell, the wife's 2.4 ghz single core system feels slow and clunky.  But I did spoil myself rotten for anything else.