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Allentown dude primitive wants to make something clear
« on: December 18, 2009, 02:37:43 PM »
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Oh my.

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AllentownJake  (1000+ posts)        Thu Dec-17-09 07:48 PM
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Just want to make something clear

Joe Lieberman was a US Senator when the President took office, so was Ben Nelson, Evan Bayh, and the rest of the GOP light crowd. None of these players are a surprise to anyone. They shouldn't have been surprised about the players in the Senate. There are about 7 people the President had to lobby in order to get his legislation passed. He should have known what was acceptable to these 7 people and he should have crafted his legislation in a way to get the most out of it. Without a public option there should have been no mandate. If you don't have the Senate to pass real sweeping Health Care reform. You don't put it on your agenda for that year. You make a step.

The President didn't need to lobby Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders. He had 7 people to convince in some way. He failed. The equation is public option and mandates. You put only the mandates out there, it is a disaster of a bill.

This isn't the first time this year the Party has ****ed up. They got the House to pass a Cap and Trade bill when they couldn't pass one in the Senate. They put house members on the record for their vote, and got no legislation. Sometimes you can convince a member to sacrifice his seat for progress. Doing something like this, does not encourage them to do that in the future.

Now either Harry Reid is lying to the President on what can be done, or the President is being arrogant when he tries to push legislation through congress through, or both.

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mike_c  (1000+ posts)        Thu Dec-17-09 07:55 PM
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1. rec'd to offset the first cowardly insta-unrec....

Thanks, Jake. That's an excellent point. I think all the fantasizing about Obama's awesome chessmanship is just that-- fantasy. I think he is grossly inexperienced. Only a partial term in the Senate, and a presidential campaign-- that's pretty much the extent of his major league cred.

I can't help but think back to how badly his first "crisis" of a sort was handled-- the appointment of Burris to warm his Senate seat until 2010. What irony that Burris might now be one of our best hopes to kill the Senate HCR legislation.

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AllentownJake  (1000+ posts)        Thu Dec-17-09 07:57 PM
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3. These are pretty awful mistakes and his advisers should have known better, at the end of the day the buck stops with him.

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roguevalley  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 03:23 AM
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24. when you become president, you become leader of the country, the military and the party. You lead. He hasn't. He's sort of sitting there expecting it to happen. Remember how we aren't going to prosecute torture and the like? We are just going to 'reflect'. I weep for my country.

Boo hoo.

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Goldstein1984  (594 posts)        Thu Dec-17-09 08:12 PM
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7. Succinct: The situation in a nutshell 

An awful lot of wasted time and political capital.

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AllentownJake  (1000+ posts)        Thu Dec-17-09 08:15 PM
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8. He had the world by the balls and he's hanging on now to the edge of the cliff.

Uh, isn't that kind of, uh, like, uh.....racist, suggestive of a lynching, hanging?

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saracat  (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 01:31 AM
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19. But never did Kennedy display the arrogance and contempt for the people the President did this week. His 60 minutes interview made it very clear that he could care less about those that disagree with him, even to the point of denying they exist.

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Mari333 (1000+ posts)        Fri Dec-18-09 03:23 PM
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28. well, the talking heads like Tweety keep saying that the Dems dont want to identify with the liberals. they want to identify with the teabaggers and GOP it seems. you know, all warm and fuzzy.

he even had the audacity to say Obama was too far to the left.

he lives in lala land.

I dont know WHO is giving the beltway crowd their advice, but if any of them left their bubble and looked at the poll numbers, they might wake up.
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Re: Allentown dude primitive wants to make something clear
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2009, 02:47:58 PM »
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The President didn't need to lobby Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders. He had 7 people to convince in some way. He failed.

Wow, quite an admission from a DUmmy.
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Re: Allentown dude primitive wants to make something clear
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2009, 03:11:23 PM »
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8. He had the world by the balls and he's hanging on now to the edge of the cliff.


Uh, isn't that kind of, uh, like, uh.....racist, suggestive of a lynching, hanging?
Whether it is or not, it's definitely sexist. Implying Mother Gaia has balls. Outrageous.
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Re: Allentown dude primitive wants to make something clear
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2009, 03:19:55 PM »
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AllentownJake  (1000+ posts)        Thu Dec-17-09 08:15 PM
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8. He had the world by the balls and he's hanging on now to the edge of the cliff.



He was pushed and ordained by the media since 2004 on the presumption his race made him untouchable.
They succeeded but nowhere was his competance or intelligence ever looked at.
Conservatives did and to us it is no surprise that the idiot is a bumbling bag of useless gas.

God help us though now that he and the rest of the idealouges are in power.
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Re: Allentown dude primitive wants to make something clear
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2009, 03:33:01 PM »
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I think he is grossly inexperienced. Only a partial term in the Senate, and a presidential campaign-- that's pretty much the extent of his major league cred.

Uhhh...told ya so, many, many times.
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Re: Allentown dude primitive wants to make something clear
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2009, 03:56:52 PM »
Obama is a stupid, inexperienced dud......Well gosh....I didn't know that.
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Re: Allentown dude primitive wants to make something clear
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2009, 04:07:20 PM »
Damn- I wish I had more time to dedicate to freelance programming - I would whip up an UnRec bot in a heartbeat If I did.. Sure the mole would go down in flames shortly after launch, but it would be after pages of posts got unrecommended first.  :-)   Oh the angst it would bring
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Re: Allentown dude primitive wants to make something clear
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2009, 04:31:06 PM »
Quote from: miskie on December 18, 2009, 04:07:20 PM
Damn- I wish I had more time to dedicate to freelance programming - I would whip up an UnRec bot in a heartbeat If I did.. Sure the mole would go down in flames shortly after launch, but it would be after pages of posts got unrecommended first.  :-)   Oh the angst it would bring

Stinky the clown seems to hate being unrecced the most. What about a bot just to unrec his posts?
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Re: Allentown dude primitive wants to make something clear
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2009, 04:54:32 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on December 18, 2009, 04:31:06 PM
Stinky the clown seems to hate being unrecced the most. What about a bot just to unrec his posts?
Don't need a bot. Between here, FR, and the CU ronbot asylum, there should be more than enough moles to bury him in unrecs every time he shows his face. People just need to apply themselves. Concentrate.
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Re: Allentown dude primitive wants to make something clear
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2009, 05:02:15 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on December 18, 2009, 04:31:06 PM
Stinky the clown seems to hate being unrecced the most. What about a bot just to unrec his posts?

That would be so freakin' sweet!
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Re: Allentown dude primitive wants to make something clear
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2009, 05:25:57 PM »
Quote from: Randy on December 18, 2009, 05:02:15 PM
That would be so freakin' sweet!

Its ultimately doable - I  could probably do it in Php - BadCat could in Java.

a) Scan and record thread addresses started by [TARGET]
b) Log into DU
c) Pump in recorded addresses plus 'action=unrec' or whatever address the unrec link generates.
d) point and laugh
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Re: Allentown dude primitive wants to make something clear
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2009, 05:48:48 PM »
Quote from: miskie on December 18, 2009, 05:25:57 PM
Its ultimately doable - I  could probably do it in Php - BadCat could in Java.

a) Scan and record thread addresses started by [TARGET]
b) Log into DU
c) Pump in recorded addresses plus 'action=unrec' or whatever address the unrec link generates.
d) point and laugh


Could it be done in both languages?  It'd be a hoot to watch them wain and gnash their teeth over something that they couldn't fix . . .  :evillaugh:
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Re: Allentown dude primitive wants to make something clear
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2009, 06:06:21 PM »
Well, the first thing I would need is someone with an active mole to explain a few things to me - when one goes to Unrec, is there a button ? Rec/Unrec requires a certain number of posts that I lack, and then is there a confirmation screen, or is it you press the button, and the thread is Rec'd/ Unrec'd ? if its that simple, could someone PM me the link generated when one hovers over the button ?  (Right click, copy link location) and send that link to me via PM ? - Also please include the link to the thread you were messing with.

You should not need to actually unrec, just hover and copy link.

The part im interested in should be like this example

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=[UNREC LINK]&forum=221&topic_id=153271&mesg_id=153271

where [UNREC LINK] is the name of the module that handles that function.
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Re: Allentown dude primitive wants to make something clear
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2009, 12:13:57 AM »
Quote from: miskie on December 18, 2009, 06:06:21 PM
Well, the first thing I would need is someone with an active mole to explain a few things to me - when one goes to Unrec, is there a button ? Rec/Unrec requires a certain number of posts that I lack, and then is there a confirmation screen, or is it you press the button, and the thread is Rec'd/ Unrec'd ? if its that simple, could someone PM me the link generated when one hovers over the button ?  (Right click, copy link location) and send that link to me via PM ? - Also please include the link to the thread you were messing with.

You should not need to actually unrec, just hover and copy link.

The part im interested in should be like this example

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=[UNREC LINK]&forum=221&topic_id=153271&mesg_id=153271

where [UNREC LINK] is the name of the module that handles that function.

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