Do people not understand that if jobs are lost to lower greenhouse gases that is

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RB TexLa  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Dec-13-09 02:19 PM
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Do people not understand that if jobs are lost to lower greenhouse gases that is an acceptable
   
sacrifice?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7218089

Then you won't mind sacrificing your job if that happens and let someone else take your place?

FreakinDJ  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Dec-13-09 02:19 PM
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1. That won't reduce Green House Gases
   
Edited on Sun Dec-13-09 02:22 PM by FreakinDJ
I suppose you are taking "Cap and Trade" which is and incredibly flawed plan.

In fact Green House Gases will continue to rise for decades (evan as long as 50 years) under that plan
   

Heh some trooth at the DUmp.

bigjohn16  Donating Member  (722 posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Dec-13-09 02:21 PM
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3. No
   
Most people don't see beyond their own daily needs.

And they voted for Obama and his stash of cash.

Life Long Dem  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Dec-13-09 02:32 PM
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14. It's acceptable to lose jobs to a greening world.
   
From fossil fuels to renewable energy.

I bet you want Obama to write you a check too.

CJCRANE  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Dec-13-09 03:07 PM
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27. Do people not understand that if jobs are created to lower greenhouse gases that is
   
a boon to the economy?

It's all in the framing.

And where are we going to get the money for those govt jobs?
Besides all the projections of those jobs that I have seen are a small number considering the amount of unemployment we have now. If 50 million jobs are created in the next ten years and we lose 200 million by then there is no gain in jobs.

If you DUmmies really believe in the environment there is one sure way you can cut your carbon emissions since you breathe out CO2 every time you breathe if you quit breathing then you can save the earth.

[Chris]

RB TexLa 
Sun Dec-13-09 02:19 PM
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Do people not understand that if jobs are lost to lower greenhouse gases that is an acceptable sacrifice?

You first.  Asshole.

[BlueStateSaint]

RB TexLa 
Sun Dec-13-09 02:19 PM
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Do people not understand that if jobs are lost to lower greenhouse gases that is an acceptable sacrifice?

An "acceptable sacrifice," to me, would be each one of the DUmb****s on an altar, with an Aztec priest about to rip their hearts out.

[TheSarge]

RB TexLa  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Dec-13-09 02:19 PM
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Do people not understand that if jobs are lost to lower greenhouse gases that is an acceptable
  
sacrifice?

Hmmm...let's follow this through a little farther shall we?

Do people not understand that if houses are leveled to lower greenhouse gases that is an acceptable sacrifice

Do people not understand that if our free market economy is lost to lower greenhouse gases that is an acceptable sacrifice

Do people not understand that if our Constitution is destroyed to lower greenhouse gases that is an acceptable sacrifice

Do people not understand that if human beings are killed to lower greenhouse gases that is an acceptable sacrifice

See the slippery slope this kind of thinking can push us towards?

[ColonialMarine0431]

RB TexLa  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Dec-13-09 02:19 PM
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Do people not understand that if jobs are lost to lower greenhouse gases that is an acceptable
   
sacrifice?

Official winner of the Dickhead Post of the Day Award.

[Airwolf]

Hey Douchebaggers,My jobs safe no matter what the greenhouse gasses are Is yours? That is if anyof you have something more important than picking up the trash along some interstate highway every morning because the court ordered you to.

[Chump]

bigjohn16  Donating Member  (722 posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Dec-13-09 02:21 PM
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3. No
   
Most people don't see beyond their own daily needs.

Of course they don't.  If someone can't provide for their own daily needs (food, water, shelter, clothing) why in the Hell would they care about anything else, much less your global warming bullshit?

[Carl]

I have seen numerous posts while wandering the island that allege there is a great wealth ahead if the government adopts a radical "green" economy.
Never have seen any details as far as what the great jobs are,how they are paid for or sustained but hell it is the DUmp...you just have to believe.

[kenth]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7218089

If you DUmmies really believe in the environment there is one sure way you can cut your carbon emissions since you breathe out CO2 every time you breathe if you quit breathing then you can save the earth.

Glad you brought this over. I saw it earlier, but was too disgusted to do so. Freaking idiots.

[The Village Idiot]

Entire cities leveled. people crowded into tiny apartments in shrinking cities. poverty at Ethiopian levels. electricity for a few hours a day if we're lucky. Food scarce and very expensive.

aaahhhhh Utopia.... it is so worth watching family members waste away and die from lack of nutrition and healthcare.... just so we can cut... what do you mean China and India are exempt?? are you out of your mind??

[TheSarge]

Entire cities leveled. people crowded into tiny apartments in shrinking cities. poverty at Ethiopian levels. electricity for a few hours a day if we're lucky. Food scarce and very expensive.

aaahhhhh Utopia.... it is so worth watching family members waste away and die from lack of nutrition and healthcare.... just so we can cut... what do you mean China and India are exempt?? are you out of your mind??

No that particular DUmmie is just of the belief that all of the above is completely acceptable if the result is:

lower greenhouse gases

[The Village Idiot]

No that particular DUmmie is just of the belief that all of the above is completely acceptable if the result is:

Its the opposite, their goal isn't lower greenhouse gases, its lower America. Why else would they accept exemptions for China? The worlds biggest polluter? They WANT the poverty and this is just one more way to get there.

[DumbAss Tanker]

This is so wonderfully, delightfully reminiscent of that eternal classic DU post, 'It's an HONOR to have you cat eaten by a hawk!'

 

 

[Karin]

This Spider primitive, who I've never seen, is a textbook ivory tower leftist asshole, as can be seen in this exchange.  I really, really dislike him. 

Spider Jerusalem  (1000+ posts)      Sun Dec-13-09 07:32 PM
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72. Apparently you've never heard of something called 'the greater good'
 ...what is good for the planet as a whole may not be 100% compatible with the economic self-interests of Americans, who represent 5% of the global population. In which case...too bad, really. If people are too selfish, shortsighted, and stupid to adapt to change out of necessity, then, yes, **** them.

mamaleah (1000+ posts)      Sun Dec-13-09 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #72
75. Well thank you for comfirming you are just as
 heartless as the deniers
And **** you too. .

 Spider Jerusalem  (1000+ posts)      Sun Dec-13-09 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #75
77. Heartless? No. Realistic. 
 If economic changes necessary to move to a low-carbon economy cause short-term pain, it's still better than the consequences of maintaining the status quo just because people might lose their jobs. 

mamaleah (1000+ posts)      Sun Dec-13-09 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #77
79. Call it whatever you want.
 But go ahead and look at some guy and his kids and say "oh well you cannot feed yourselves anymore. **** off". The sentiment will be returned. 

[thundley4]

Spider Jerusalem  (1000+ posts)      Sun Dec-13-09 08:57 PM
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77. Heartless? No. Realistic. 
 If economic changes necessary to move to a low-carbon economy cause short-term pain, it's still better than the consequences of maintaining the status quo just because people might lose their jobs.

Hey DUmass. If the US went to a low CO₂ economy, a big change would have to occur in farming.  Who do you think produces much of the food products for the world?  Farmers in other countries will be affected also, which would lead to mass starvation in those poor third-world countries that you claim to be worried about.

[JohnnyReb]

Of course DUmmies aren't worried about losing "THEIR" job in a green economy.... they don't have a job to start with.

[The Village Idiot]

If Spitter thinks this only hurts Americans he is being stoopid. The plan is for massive depopulation. People will have to be starved to death. Once we aren't growing and selling all that wheat & corn, maybe some of the other countries will get a clue. As for climate, this is not about climate or they would not exempt China.

[delilahmused]

CJCRANE  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Dec-13-09 03:07 PM
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27. Do people not understand that if jobs are created to lower greenhouse gases that is
   
a boon to the economy?

It's all in the framing.

And there we have it...the Dem party platform...just wrap the same old, tired policies in pretty new paper. Liberals getting a bad reputation, we'll just call ourselves progressives. Weather no cooperating with socialist global warming policies, we'll change it to global climate change. We're against the war and everything associated with it, we're against the war and everything associated with it BUT we support the troops. It's not socialism, it's "the new deal", "the great socieity", or whatever the hell they're calling it today. People don't want single payer, we'll just call it a co-op wrap it in a great big bow and trot it out again.

Cindie

[GOBUCKS]

As for climate, this is not about climate or they would not exempt China.

Eventually, nearly everyone but moonbats will realize that. It has nothing to do with climate.
It is an assault on American business and American prosperity.

[bkg]

Talk about spending a dollar to save a penny.

If people were even smart enough to follow the math, they'd know that even taking all cars off the road and shutting down all factories will affect < 1% of "greenhouse gas" volumes...

[I_B_Perky]

Of course DUmmies aren't worried about losing "THEIR" job in a green economy.... they don't have a job to start with.

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winnnaah!

[Chris]

This is so wonderfully, delightfully reminiscent of that eternal classic DU post, 'It's an HONOR to have you cat eaten by a hawk!'

 

 

oh noes...

[TheSarge]

Eventually, nearly everyone but moonbats will realize that. It has nothing to do with climate.
It is an assault on American business and American prosperity.

Neither of which the DUmmies care one whit about.

They don't own their own businesses and the majority of them don't have the drive to be truly prosperous.

They are the perfect example of complete immersion into the class warfare rhetoric.