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Phoonzang  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Dec-04-09 10:31 AM
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What would have happened if Obama had announced an immediate withdrawal?
   
This is not a trick question. I'm not making some kind of statement here. I'm genuinely interested in what people think the impact both domestically and internationally would have been if an immediate withdrawal were ordered. What would the political fallout have been? What would happen in 2010 and 2012? I personally have no idea.

THINK before you answer. I know it's probably impossible to get on this website, but I'd like an objective, reasoned analysis. Not "The FucCKing corporatisT FascstTS woudl have been ****ED bLARRRR!!!!" You know...the usual. :P

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Well the answer is simple. Liberals, and terrorists both would be dancing in the streets. And conservatives would be preparing for another terrorist attack.

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Dawgs  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Dec-04-09 10:34 AM
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1. It would have been ignored on DU, and he would be attacked for something else.
   
:hi:

Nah you goons would be slobbering all over him.

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timeforpeace  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Dec-04-09 01:27 PM
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43. No, he would have been praised by the left, criticized initially by the right but eventually lauded
   
by history. It would have been a courageous, presidential-like leadership thingie to do.

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MineralMan  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Dec-04-09 10:52 AM
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20. Absolutely. You'd see posts that read:
   
I hate Obama. He can get us out of a war, but he can't give us .

True, the goons would be be saying that's nice now give me free health care.

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FormerDittoHead  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Dec-04-09 10:35 AM
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3. Look what happened to JFK. Obama got his 'warning' with the gate crashers...
   
Just echoing a thought I had the other day...

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joecool65  (221 posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Dec-04-09 10:36 AM
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4. First off, the Taliban...
   
...would go back to being a bunch of total thugs without knowing our military could crush them, forcing any and all women in any area they have slight control of to wear burquas whether they want to or not, then executing women in the back of the head with an AK-47, as well as torturing and hanging men who resist them in the slightest.

Then, people on this board would start bemoaning the plight of Afghan women and those people in general and asking if anything could be done to help them.

Ouch truth can be painful to a DUmmy.

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Echo In Light  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Dec-04-09 10:41 AM
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7. Domestically, the Left, and likely more than half the country, would've heaped big praise on him
   
You have two threads on this, btw

I seriously doubt 1/2 the country would be happy if he did that. Hell I would think at least 1/4 of moonbats wouldn't be happy.

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Ready4Change  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Dec-04-09 10:46 AM
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10. Repubs would attack him. Taliban would retake Afghanistan.
   
The Republicans will attack him no matter what choice he made. There is no win for him there.

Despite being hit hard years ago, our shift of focus to Iraq has allowed the Taliban to regain a foothold in Afghanistan. The current government there is not well respected at this point, so if we withdraw it will be quickly displaced by the Taliban.

I wouldn't attack Obama if he did the right thing. In fact I can be big enough to praise him for sending more troops even if he was dragged into it kicking and screaming. And will even go out on a limb and give him a benefit of a doubt that if the mission isn't complete in 18 months he may keep the troops there. The funny part is you goons would attack Bush for any choice he made even if you agreed with him on principle on that decision.

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tekisui  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Dec-04-09 11:19 AM
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25. Nah, they follow the President whether right or wrong.   Updated at 3:12 PM
   
They would have sheered it as a genius decision. Many of them don't know what they think until they are told.

I couldn't have described DU better than you just did.

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FarLeftFist  (529 posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Dec-04-09 10:52 AM
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19. He would be seen as a weak bleeding heart liberal by the MSM
   
And all the RW blogs would say how much he hates America and is a Muslim sympathizer who is trying to destroy America from the inside.


If the shoe fits.

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kenny blankenship  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Fri Dec-04-09 01:21 PM
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39. He wouldn't have lost his base.
   
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 01:23 PM by kenny blankenship
He would be attacked from the right of course. So what? They lost the works over the past two elections; and despite all his bowing in their direction they never stop attacking him anyway. But if he didn't have the courage required for the job he shouldn't have applied for it.

That help?

His base, you goons will vote for him in 2012 he has nothing to fear.


I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: What would have happened if Obama had announced an immediate withdrawal?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2009, 09:23:54 PM »
There would have been a very serious and very credible case for dereliction of duty had he done that.
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Re: What would have happened if Obama had announced an immediate withdrawal?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2009, 10:04:05 PM »
Our service men and women would have been killed by the thousands... and then oil pipelines would disappear. Oil would hit $250 w/in 5 months. Isreael would cease to exist in 12. We'd have terrorist attacks on our homeland w/in 4 months. Bin Laden and France would do a joint video laughing as they proclaim Obama to be a *****.

my guess, anyway.

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Re: What would have happened if Obama had announced an immediate withdrawal?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2009, 10:21:57 PM »
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Re: What would have happened if Obama had announced an immediate withdrawal?
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2009, 01:52:38 AM »
Hmmmmmmm............What would our arned forces do if this idot makes their sacrifice meaningless? I know what I'd want to do if my "supreme leader" left me and my buddies out to dry!
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