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Political History Trivia Question......
« on: November 24, 2009, 11:51:00 AM »
Mods feel free to move, if I'm in the wrong place with this, but for a number of years, I have been a student of the political history of the midwest......primarily the period leading up to, including, and immediately following the Civil War.........Therefore for you history junkies out there here it is

Who was the 12th president of The United States?

How long was he in office?

What was his political position prior to becoming president?

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Re: Political History Trivia Question......
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2009, 12:06:09 PM »
I could look but am going to wing it.

Zachary (sp) Taylor and was in office from March 4th 1849 to a few days past July 4th 1850.
He was a general in the Mexican war but had no political affiliation..never voted previous to running for President but his views aligned him with the Whigs so was nominated as a national hero.

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Re: Political History Trivia Question......
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2009, 12:43:11 PM »
Anyone else agree with Carl?

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Re: Political History Trivia Question......
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2009, 12:47:14 PM »
Anyone else agree with Carl?

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Re: Political History Trivia Question......
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2009, 12:56:12 PM »
I have always been very fascinated with the history and stories of our past Presidents.


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Re: Political History Trivia Question......
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2009, 01:17:19 PM »
Google does.

Well they are both wrong........since I don't expect this to be a multi-page thread, I'll supply you with the very strange answer........

On Saturday, March 3, 1849, by law, the presidential term of James A. Polk officially ended, he vacated the presidential residence, as did all of his staff and aids.........His cabinet also resigned as well, as was the custom of that time.

The then President-elect Zachary Taylor, and his Vice President-elect Millard Fillmore, both G*d-fearing Christian men, refused to be inaugurated on the following day, which was the Sabbath......no one gave a great deal of thought to it until about three AM on Sunday, March 4, 1849, when Federal Circuit Judge Willie Magnum discovered that it was a violation of the Constitution for there not to be a sitting president.

Considering the circumstances, and the fact that both the President-elect, and the VP-elect refused yet again to be sworn in until Monday, Judge Magnum consulted his staff, and at three AM on that Sunday morning awoke Senator David Rice Atchison, from Plattsburg, Missouri, who was, at that time the President of the Senate.......

Judge Magnum advised Senator Atchison that since he was the next in the Constitutional line of succession, that he must be sworn in as President of the US, until Zachary Taylor was inaugurated on the following day.

Standing in his bedchamber, in his nightshirt and cap, Senator Atchison placed his hand on the Bible, and took the presidential oath of office administered by Judge Magnum, in the presence of four witnesses, after which, he returned to bed, and slept through much of the following day.

David R. Atchison, therefore, for a period of one day, was the twelfth President of the United States, and his gravemarker in his home town of Plattsburg, MO, bears the inscription:

"President of the United States for One Day"

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Re: Political History Trivia Question......
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2009, 09:30:35 AM »
Well they are both wrong........since I don't expect this to be a multi-page thread, I'll supply you with the very strange answer........

On Saturday, March 3, 1849, by law, the presidential term of James A. Polk officially ended, he vacated the presidential residence, as did all of his staff and aids.........His cabinet also resigned as well, as was the custom of that time.

The then President-elect Zachary Taylor, and his Vice President-elect Millard Fillmore, both G*d-fearing Christian men, refused to be inaugurated on the following day, which was the Sabbath......no one gave a great deal of thought to it until about three AM on Sunday, March 4, 1849, when Federal Circuit Judge Willie Magnum discovered that it was a violation of the Constitution for there not to be a sitting president.

Considering the circumstances, and the fact that both the President-elect, and the VP-elect refused yet again to be sworn in until Monday, Judge Magnum consulted his staff, and at three AM on that Sunday morning awoke Senator David Rice Atchison, from Plattsburg, Missouri, who was, at that time the President of the Senate.......

Judge Magnum advised Senator Atchison that since he was the next in the Constitutional line of succession, that he must be sworn in as President of the US, until Zachary Taylor was inaugurated on the following day.

Standing in his bedchamber, in his nightshirt and cap, Senator Atchison placed his hand on the Bible, and took the presidential oath of office administered by Judge Magnum, in the presence of four witnesses, after which, he returned to bed, and slept through much of the following day.

David R. Atchison, therefore, for a period of one day, was the twelfth President of the United States, and his gravemarker in his home town of Plattsburg, MO, bears the inscription:

"President of the United States for One Day"

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Fwiw that claim is a matter of dispute.
Not to prove myself correct but curious so did some checking.

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Some people believe or perhaps jokingly claim that he was President on Sunday, March 4, 1849, between the expiration of James Polk's term at noon on Sunday and the official oath of office taken by Zachary Taylor on Monday. The law at that time specified that the President was to be sworn in on March 4th, but President-elect Taylor refused to be sworn in on the Sabbath (Sunday). Atchison had been elected President Pro Tempore of the Senate a couple of days previously and would therefore technically be third in line of succession behind the President and Vice President. Since neither office was held by a person on that day, he was later considered by some the President of the United States for that period. However, none of the legal requirements for replacing the President with the President pro tempore were fulfilled and on March 4, Atchison's Senate term expired at noon, so he was not even technically president pro tempore. Most people familiar with the claim that Atchison was President for a day are able to cite several additional reasons why the claim is silly, not the least of which is that Atchison never took the oath of office as required by the US Constitution. The case against the claim is well-summarized by the Urban Legends Reference Pages which went so far as to say, "The plain truth is, it's difficult to find one valid reason why David Rice Atchison should be considered to have served as President for a Day, but it's not hard to find several valid reasons why he shouldn't."

http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/David_R._Atchison/

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Re: Political History Trivia Question......
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2009, 12:04:46 PM »
I am a big history buff and I did not know this!  Thanks for sharing this!



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Re: Political History Trivia Question......
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2009, 02:15:56 PM »
Thank you for this tidbit of information
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Re: Political History Trivia Question......
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2009, 07:37:05 PM »
I had heard of this before and I suspected in the back of my head that there was more to this question than what was obvious.

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Re: Political History Trivia Question......
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2009, 11:43:22 PM »
You know President Atchison campaign slogan is timeless. "It was all a bad Dream" still resonates with the constants.

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Re: Political History Trivia Question......
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2009, 09:33:34 AM »
You know President Atchison campaign slogan is timeless. "It was all a bad Dream" still resonates with the constants.

We'll all be hearing that campaign slogan in 2011 and 2012 . . . about the Oministration . . .
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