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The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« on: November 18, 2009, 05:55:10 PM »
I know, the September 11 forum is easy pickings. But at least this is a break from the usual NORAD stand downs and no-plane-struck-the Pentagon stuff.

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The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
   

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I first wrote about the assassination of American Rap Music superstar Tupak Shakur almost a decade ago. At the time I used the title “The Hand of The Man in Tupak’s Assassination” and I use the term “assassination” for good reason.

Tupak was gunned down on the Las Vegas Strip in front of the mega gambling casino Circus Circus after a Mike Tyson boxing match. Hundreds of people witnessed the killing and it had to have been captured on multiple CCTV (close circuit television) systems used to monitor the front of the hotel. The killers had to have arrived and departed from the scene of the crime via the main thoroughfare, The Strip, and were certainly recorded doing so on dozens if not hundreds of other CCTV systems.

Yet to this day, well over a decade later, law enforcement claims they have no idea who committed this crime. No photos extracted from the multiple video cameras that recorded the assassination, not even the license plate number of the killer’s vehicle.

It is so obvious that a cover up has taken place that even black American superstar comedian and actor Chris Rock raised this in one of his HBO comedy specials.

While Chris Rock may not consider Tupac’s killing an assassination, all one needs to do is watch the documentary made about Tupac’s life to understand how Tupac’s message to the youth of America, and the world, was something that was not going to be tolerated by those in the highest levels of law enforcement.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) in the USA has a long history of targeting black American political activists, amongst others, and through the notorious “COINTELPRO” program, law enforcement death squads assassinated hundreds of black, Latino and American Indian activists during the 1960s and 70s.
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Uh, yeah. It is over everywhere in the sane world.

Unfortunately, the intrepid primitive Hannah Bell does not reside on that particular piece of real estate:

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10. history:
   
Tupac Amaru Shakur was born in the East Harlem section of Manhattan in New York City.<12> He was named after Túpac Amaru II, a Peruvian revolutionary who led an indigenous uprising against Spain and was subsequently executed.

His mother, Afeni Shakur, was an active member of the Black Panther Party in New York in the late 1960s and early 1970s; Shakur was born just one month after her acquittal on more than 150 charges of "Conspiracy against the United States government and New York landmarks" in the New York Panther 21 court case.

Although unconfirmed by the Shakur family, several sources list his birth name as either "Parish Lesane Crooks" or "Lesane Parish Crooks".<15> Afeni feared her enemies would attack her son, and disguised their relation using a different last name, only to change it three months or a year later, following her marriage to Mutulu Shakur.

Struggle and incarceration surrounded Shakur from an early age. His godfather, Elmer "Geronimo" Pratt, a high ranking Black Panther, was convicted of murdering a school teacher during a 1968 robbery, although his sentence was later overturned.

His stepfather, Mutulu, spent four years at large on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list beginning in 1982, when Shakur was a pre-teen. Mutulu was wanted in part for having helped his sister Assata Shakur (also known as Joanne Chesimard) to escape from a penitentiary in New Jersey, where she had been incarcerated for allegedly shooting a state trooper to death in 1973.

Assata Shakur fled to Cuba by 1984; in that year she was granted political asylum in that country. The New Jersey State Police and Federal Bureau of Investigation each still have an agent officially assigned to her case. Calls for Shakur's extradition increased following Fidel Castro's transfer of presidential duties;< in a May 2005 television address, Castro had called Shakur a victim of racial persecution, saying "they wanted to portray her as a terrorist, something that was an injustice, a brutality, an infamous lie".[br />
Mutulu was caught in 1986 and imprisoned for the robbery of a Brinks armored truck in which two police officers and a guard were killed.

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Considering the history, I think there's lots of reason for suspicion.

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12. Still don't see it...he represented no threat to the Gov. Occam's razor would lead us to one of
   
his fellow rappers.



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15. "gov't" can = many entities, for example, police. & "fellow rappers" can
   
also be pawns of gov't. & being a threat isn't the only motive for assassination. revenge, sending a message to others in the family or allies we know nothing of, etc. are also motives.

the inaction on the case combined with the extensive political history of the family mean it's not to be dismissed out of hand.
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2009, 06:02:44 PM »
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2009, 06:07:57 PM »
Maybe I'm an idiot, But I figure "Hit Em' Up" by Tupac probably has more clues in it as to who killed him and why than some super secret black-ops obscured videotapes.

But that's just me..    ::)

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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2009, 06:11:30 PM »
Maybe I'm an idiot, But I figure "Hit Em' Up" by Tupac probably has more clues in it as to who killed him and why than some super secret black-ops obscured videotapes.

But that's just me..    ::)
Can't say I've ever heard anything by Half-Pac so I can't comment.
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2009, 06:19:50 PM »
Can't say I've ever heard anything by Half-Pac so I can't comment.

I saw him in an interview once. Half-Wit is more like it.
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2009, 06:24:56 PM »
I thought he got his name because of his smoking habits.

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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2009, 06:26:31 PM »
Urban youths have celebrated their diversity by drilling one another for decades. Just chalk it up to community service, and move on.

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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2009, 06:28:14 PM »
Q.) Whats Tupac spelled backwards ?
A.) Caput.    :-)

Anyway - Lyrics..

Quote from: Tupac Shakur
"Hit 'Em Up"

[Tupac]
I ain't got no mother****ing friends
That's why I ****ed your bitch
You're fat mother****er {Take Money}
West Side
Bad Boy Killers {Take Money}
You know who the realist is
niggas we bring it to {Take Money}
(ha ha, that's alright)

First off, **** your bitch
And the click you claim
West side when we ride
Come equipped with game
You claim to be a player
But I ****ed your wife
We bust on Bad Boys
niggas **** for Life
Plus Puffy tryin' to see me weak
Hearts I rip
Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia
Some mark ass bitches
We keep on coming
While we running for your jewels
Steady gunning
Keep on busting at them fools
You know the rules
Little Ceasar go ask you homie
How I'll leave you
Cut your young ass up
See you in pieces
Now be deceased
Little Kim,
Don't **** around with real G's
Quick to snatch your ugly ass, off the streets
So **** peace
I'll let them niggas know
It's on for Life
Don't let the west side
Ride the night (ha ha)
Bad Boys murdered on Wax and kill
**** with me
And get your caps peeled
You know, see

[Chorus:]
Grab your glocks when you see 2pac
Call the cops when you see 2pac, uh
Who shot me,
But your punks didn't finish
Now you 'bout to feel the wrath of a menace
nigga, I hit 'em up

Check this out
You mother****ers know what time it is
I don't know why I'm even on this track
You all niggas ain't even on my level
I'm going to let my little homies
Ride on you
bitch made ass Bad Boys bitches
{ah yo, yo, hold the **** up}

Get out the way yo
Get out the way yo
Biggie Smalls just got dropped
Little move pass the mac
And let me hit 'em in his back
Frank White needs to get spanked right
For setting up traps
Little accident murderers
And I ain't never heard of you
Poise less gats attack when I'm serving you
Spank the shank
Your whole style when I gank
Guard your rank
'cause I'm a slam your ass in a pang
Puffy weaker than a ****in' block
I'm running through nigga
And I'm smoking Junior Mafia
In front of you nigga
With the ready power
Tucked in my Guess
Under my Eddie Bauer
Your clout petty sour
I push packages ever hour
I hit 'em up

[Chorus]

Peep how we do it
Keep it real
Its penitentiary steel
This ain't no freestyle battle
All you niggas getting killed
With your mouths open
Tryin' to come up off of me
You and the clouds hoping
Smoking dope
It's like a Shermine
niggas think they learned to fly
But they burn mother****er you deserve to die
Talking about you Getting Money
But it's funny to me
All you niggas living bummy
While you ****ing with me?
I'm a self made Millionaire
Thug livin', out of prison
Pistols in the Air {Air} (Ha Ha)
Biggie remember when I use to let you sleep on the couch
And beg the bitch to let you sleep in the house
Now it's all about Versace
You copied my style
Five shots couldn't drop me
I took it and smiled
Now I'm back to set the record straight
With my A-K
I'm still the thug that you love to hate
Mother-****er I'll Hit 'Em Up

I'm from N E W Jers.
Where plenty of murder occurs
No points to come
We bring drama to all you herds
Now go check the scenario
Little Ceas'
I'll bring you fake G's to your knees
Copin' pleas with these
Little Kim is you
Coked up or doped up
Get your little Junior Whopper click smoked up
What the ****?
Is you stupid?
I take money,
crash and mash through Brooklyn
With my click looting, shooting, and polluting your block
With fifteen shot,
Cocked glock to your knot
Outlaw Mafia click moving up another notch
And your Pop stars popped and get dropped and mopped
And all your fake ass east coast props
Brainstormed and locked

You're a beat biter
Pac style taker
I'll tell you to face, you ain't nothing shit but a faker
So fill the Alize with a chaser
'bout to get murdered for the paper
E.d.i I mean post the scene of the caper
Like a loc, with little Ceas' in a choke (uh)
Toting smoke, we ain't no mother****in' joke
Thug Life, niggas better be known
Be approaching
In the wide open, gun smoking
No need for hoping
It's a battle lost
I gottem crossed as soon as the funk is bopping off
nigga, I hit 'em up

Now you tell me who won
I see them, they run (ha ha)
They don't wanna see us
Whole Junior Mafia click
Dressing up to be us
How the **** they gonna be the Mob?
When we always on out job
We millionaire's
Killing ain't fair
But somebody got to do it

Oh yah Mobb Deep (uh)
You wanna **** with us
You Little young ass mother****ers
Don't one of you niggas got sickle-cell or something
You're ****ing with me, nigga?
You **** around and catch a seizure or a heart-attack
You better back the **** up
Before you get smacked the **** up
This is how we do it on our side
Any of you niggas from New York that want to bring it,
Bring it.
But we ain't singing,
We bringing drama
**** you and your mother ****ing mama.
We're gonna kill all you mother ****ers.
Now when I came out, I told you it was just about biggie.
Then everybody had to open their mouth with a mother ****ing opinion
Well this is how we gonna' do this:
**** Mobb Deep,
**** Biggie,
**** Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a mother ****ing crew.
And if you want to be down with Bad Boy,
Then **** you too.
Chino XL, **** you too.
All you mother ****ers,
**** you too.
(take money, take money)
All of y'all mother ****ers,
**** you, die slow mother****er.
My four four (.44 magnum) make sure all your kids don't grow.
You mother****ers can't be us or see us.
We mother ****in' Thug Life riders.
West Side till' we die.
Out here in California, nigga
We warned ya'
We'll bomb on you mother ****ers.
We do our job.
You think you the mob, nigga, we the mother****in' mob
Ain't nothing but killers
And the real niggas, all you mother****ers feel us.
Our shit goes triple and four quadruple
You niggas laugh 'cause our staff got guns under they mother****in' belts
You know how it is and we drop records they felt
You niggas can't feel it
We the realist
**** 'em.
We Bad Boy killers.

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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2009, 06:29:45 PM »
The man was a veritable Shakespeare in his day. :whatever:
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2009, 06:33:51 PM »
I'm sure his music will be played hundreds of years from now, just like Wagner, Beethoven, Brahms.....
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2009, 06:34:40 PM »
The man was a veritable Shakespeare in his day. :whatever:

I have a tear in my eye.

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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2009, 06:37:53 PM »
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Seriously, do these idiots just sit around all day pulling bong hits and then all of a sudden come up with this crapola at random? :mental:
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2009, 06:38:23 PM »
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2009, 06:40:03 PM »
Seriously, do these idiots just sit around all day pulling bong hits and then all of a sudden come up with this crapola at random? :mental:

Yes.

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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2009, 06:50:56 PM »
I must be of the greenbriar mental persuation as I read the "lyrics" and I have no idea what the "song" was saying.  I mean I get that he wanted to pop a cap in a lot of peoples asses but I don't understand why.   

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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2009, 07:41:46 PM »
One less wart on the ass of society.. :loser:
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2009, 08:13:42 PM »
I must be of the greenbriar mental persuation as I read the "lyrics" and I have no idea what the "song" was saying.  I mean I get that he wanted to pop a cap in a lot of peoples asses but I don't understand why.   
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2009, 12:12:21 AM »
I must be of the greenbriar mental persuation as I read the "lyrics" and I have no idea what the "song" was saying.  I mean I get that he wanted to pop a cap in a lot of peoples asses but I don't understand why.   

Ultimately, it all boils down to control of the illicit drug trade in their self created ghettoes.  Tupac and Biggie Smalls were from rival gangs.  They were each targeted for no other reason.  The federal government had no reason to pay them any special attention.
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2009, 04:08:44 AM »
Ultimately, it all boils down to control of the illicit drug trade in their self created ghettoes.  Tupac and Biggie Smalls were from rival gangs.  They were each targeted for no other reason.  The federal government had no reason to pay them any special attention.

Except in morbid curiosity, kinda like watching a train wreck.
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2009, 09:31:51 AM »
He lived like a thug and died like a thug........end of story.
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2009, 10:46:45 AM »
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2009, 11:34:13 AM »
Maybe a professor of music theory shot him.

That's be my guess.
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2009, 04:09:35 PM »
I'm sure Bush had him killed.  :-)
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Re: The US government and the assassination of Tupac Shakur
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2009, 06:10:25 PM »
I'm sure Bush had him killed.  :-)

Rove's fingerprints are all over this.