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Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« on: November 08, 2009, 02:41:03 PM »
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(CBS)   Senator Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said the health care bill passed last night by the House of Representatives is "dead on arrival to the Senate."

Graham argued that the House bill was "written for liberals, by liberals.

Read the whole thing.
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2009, 02:44:53 PM »
Sorry, but if Lindsey "RINO" Graham told me water was wet, I'd still check to make sure.
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2009, 02:47:00 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on November 08, 2009, 02:44:53 PM
Sorry, but if Lindsey "RINO" Graham told me water was wet, I'd still check to make sure.

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: Troof..

And "written by liberals for liberals" means it was written for Graham.
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2009, 02:48:36 PM »
What's makes him a "RINO"? (God, I hate that stupid term.)
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2009, 02:56:42 PM »
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What's makes him a "RINO"?

He votes with the Democrats more than the Republicans and is always kissing up to Obama and company.
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2009, 03:00:02 PM »
Quote from: Golem on November 08, 2009, 02:48:36 PM
What's makes him a "RINO"? (God, I hate that stupid term.)

Where would you like me to start?

"Gang of 14"
Supported Amnesty
Supported closing GITMO
Favors "cap and trade"
Supported Sotomayor
Voted against perjury charge against Clinton
Didn't vote to end funding to ACORN

And oh yeah, the ACU lists him as one of the more liberal GOP members of the Senate.  So does the National Journal.

Want some more, noob?
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2009, 03:05:47 PM »
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Graham argued that the House bill was "written for liberals, by liberals.


So he's saying it was written for him?  I'm confused.
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 03:06:18 PM »
Don't forget the Graham-Rudman act
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2009, 03:06:58 PM »
I'm so disgusted with Congress as a whole, I'm not going to believe a word any of them utter anymore.

Kick 'em all out in 2010 and start over.

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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2009, 03:09:18 PM »
Quote from: Lady Texan on November 08, 2009, 02:56:42 PM
He votes with the Democrats more than the Republicans and is always kissing up to Obama and company.

I don't know what his 2009 ratings are, but here are his 2008 ratings:

ACU (conservative) : 82%

ADA (liberal): 15%
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2009, 03:10:40 PM »
Quote from: Thor on November 08, 2009, 03:06:18 PM
Don't forget the Graham-Rudman act

Wrong Gramm.  You're thinking Phil Gramm of Texas.  However, IMHO, balanced budgets weren't that bad an idea, then or now.
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2009, 03:33:47 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on November 08, 2009, 03:00:02 PM
Where would you like me to start?

"Gang of 14"
Supported Amnesty
Supported closing GITMO
Favors "cap and trade"
Supported Sotomayor
Voted against perjury charge against Clinton
Didn't vote to end funding to ACORN

And oh yeah, the ACU lists him as one of the more liberal GOP members of the Senate.  So does the National Journal.

Want some more, noob?

Noob he may be here.  But I know him from way back (we have both been kicked off the same boards for similiar reasons).  We don't always agree, but he is a crusty old fart* like I am, and I respect him.

Y'all give him an honest chance and make up your minds, but I think you will find him to be an interesting addition to the board.

* Crusty old fart refers to mind set and not chronological age in this instance.
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2009, 03:34:34 PM »
Quote from: Golem on November 08, 2009, 02:48:36 PM
What's makes him a "RINO"? (God, I hate that stupid term.)

Why do you hate it?  It is often rather accurate.
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2009, 03:35:22 PM »
Quote from: jendf on November 08, 2009, 03:06:58 PM
I'm so disgusted with Congress as a whole, I'm not going to believe a word any of them utter anymore.

Kick 'em all out in 2010 and start over.



3 words:

Congressional Term Limits.
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2009, 03:41:57 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on November 08, 2009, 03:33:47 PM
Noob he may be here.  But I know him from way back (we have both been kicked off the same boards for similiar reasons).  We don't always agree, but he is a crusty old fart* like I am, and I respect him.

Y'all give him an honest chance and make up your minds, but I think you will find him to be an interesting addition to the board.

* Crusty old fart refers to mind set and not chronological age in this instance.

Thank you, Rich.  :-)
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2009, 03:43:57 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on November 08, 2009, 03:34:34 PM
Why do you hate it?  It is often rather accurate.

I think it's way over-applied. For instance, I've been called a RINO.  :rotf:
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2009, 03:45:24 PM »
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Noob he may be here.  But I know him from way back (we have both been kicked off the same boards for similiar reasons).  We don't always agree, but he is a crusty old fart* like I am, and I respect him.

Y'all give him an honest chance and make up your minds, but I think you will find him to be an interesting addition to the board.

* Crusty old fart refers to mind set and not chronological age in this instance.

Same here.  We disagree fairly often (I am unquestionably more conservative than he is....of course, I'm unquestionably more conservative than MOST people) and yet remain friends. 



*I guess I am the female version of a "crusty old fart"
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2009, 03:45:52 PM »
I think, during the next 12 months, Sen. Graham will take a philosophical right turn. Call it a hunch.
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2009, 03:51:11 PM »
Quote from: Splashdown on November 08, 2009, 03:45:52 PM
I think, during the next 12 months, Sen. Graham will act like he has taken a philosophical right turn. Call it a hunch.

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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2009, 03:51:38 PM »
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I think, during the next 12 months, Sen. Graham will take a philosophical right turn. Call it a hunch.

I don't know......unless I am mistaken he doesn't come up for re-election until 2012.  My guess is he will have a conservative conversion just prior to the Republican primary that year.

I am not that familiar with Georgia politics.  Isn't there someone over there more conservative who could run against him and win in the Republican primary?
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2009, 03:53:06 PM »
Quote from: jendf on November 08, 2009, 03:06:58 PM
I'm so disgusted with Congress as a whole, I'm not going to believe a word any of them utter anymore.

Kick 'em all out in 2010 and start over.




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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2009, 04:10:05 PM »
Quote from: Golem on November 08, 2009, 03:43:57 PM
I think it's way over-applied. For instance, I've been called a RINO.  :rotf:

Huh?  I've never seen you call yourself a Republican.
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2009, 04:23:33 PM »
Alright, if you don't like the term RINO, how about we call them Democrats In All But Label Only, or DIABLOs?
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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2009, 04:24:47 PM »
I can't be called a RINO because I am NOT a Republican - I am a conservative - and trust me, especially in the last few years there is a world of difference.

While it hasn't happened often, I HAVE been known in the past to vote for a Democrat, especially on the local level, when they were the more conservative of the candidates.

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Re: Graham: House Bill "D.O.A." in the Senate
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2009, 04:51:26 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on November 08, 2009, 03:33:47 PM
Noob he may be here.  But I know him from way back (we have both been kicked off the same boards for similiar reasons).  We don't always agree, but he is a crusty old fart* like I am, and I respect him.

Y'all give him an honest chance and make up your minds, but I think you will find him to be an interesting addition to the board.

* Crusty old fart refers to mind set and not chronological age in this instance.

Noted.  I've been tired and cranky of late.
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