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Offline franksolich

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Die alte Sau disputing history
« on: November 05, 2009, 07:16:03 AM »
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Oh my.

The Die alte Sau, the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher:

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proud2BlibKansan  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-05-09 07:49 AM
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The teabaggers are now claiming Martin Luther King was a Republican

What's up with THAT?

Now, the Die alte Sau is shortly to turn 57 years of age, and so lived through much of the Civil Rights era.  If the Die alte Sau can't remember from her childhood that Martin Luther King was Republican, the Die alte Sau must have a short-term, and selective, memory.

She probably thinks Lyndon Johnson was a Republican, too.

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geckosfeet  (1000+ posts)      Thu Nov-05-09 07:53 AM
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1. They give revisionism a bad name don't they? The stock and trade of republic/conservative politics:

1. Lie
2. Deceive
3. Ignore reality/history
4. Plead ignorance (or just be yourself)
5. Forget everything that happened longer than 5 minutes ago.

Hmmmm; 1-5 sounds uncannily similar to the primitves on Skins's island.

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proud2BlibKansan  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-05-09 07:59 AM
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4. Found this

In a statement released through the King Center published in an AP article in July 2008 at http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/printedition/2008/07/0... Martin Luther King III said, "It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican. It is even more outrageous to suggest that he would support the Republican Party of today, which has spent so much time and effort trying to suppress African-American votes in Florida and many other states."

And this Wash Post article in 2006 says King actually voted for LBJ in 1964.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

In fact, in "The Autobiography of Martin Luther King, Jr.," which was published after King's death from his written material and records, King called the 1964 Republican national convention that nominated Goldwater a "frenzied wedding ... of the KKK and the radical right."

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_Dr_Martin_Luther_King_a_r... 

The Die alte Sau is being disingenuous here; we're not talking 1964, but 1960, and much happened between 1960 and 1964 that altered things.

In 1960, Martin Luther King was all set to vote for Richard Nixon.

Then he was put into jail for some reason.  Richard Nixon was asked to visit him in jail, as an indication of solidarity, but didn't go, as he thought it inappropriate to interfere with the system of justice.  John Kennedy however, seeing a photographic opportunity, went.

That changed the whole ball game, at least on the black side.

On the white side, John and Robert Kennedy did their best to suppress the Civil Rights movement; it's in all the history books, and franksolich suggests the Die alte Sau read a few of them.

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Cirque du So-What  (1000+ posts)      Thu Nov-05-09 07:53 AM
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2. That was in the day when southern racists belonged to the Democratic (Dixiecrat) party. They departed en masse when the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1965, forming the core of the modern repuke party. Face them down with facts!

The Civil Rights Act was passed in 1965?

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PeaceNikki  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-05-09 07:54 AM
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3. It's a pretty common misconception. His father was once.

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/king-a-republican-at-91...

"...when King was arrested before the 1960 election, his family reached out to both candidates for help. The Republican Richard Nixon ignored them, while the Democrat John F. Kennedy secured King’s release. King Sr., who had planned to vote for Nixon, endorsed Kennedy."

King Jr., on the other hand, did not endorse candidates

“Martin Luther King Jr. was not a Republican or Democrat,” said Alveda King, who was previously elected to the Georgia House as a Democrat, but later appointed to state and federal commissions by Republicans. “But everybody uses Martin Luther King Jr.’s name for their own benefit.”

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proud2BlibKansan  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-05-09 08:00 AM
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5. Apparently his niece is going around the country claiming he was a Republican

But his kids are denying it.

The Die alte Sau is the last primitive on Skins's island who can talk about spreading lies.

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KharmaTrain  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-05-09 08:01 AM
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6. They've Been Trying to Peddle That Crap For Years...

No doubt the Democratic party of the past wasn't very friendly to blacks...the original home of Strom Thurmond and George Wallace, but by the time of Dr. King's death the GOOP had begun to court the "dixiecrats" and the Southern strategy was about to get rolling. A century ago, I would imagine many of us would have been Republicans in the Teddy Roosevelt mold...as opposed to William Jennings Bryant's "Cross of Gold" Democratic party.

Dr. King was non-partisan during his civil rights years...his mission was beyond political labels and surely if he had lived to the present time (he would have turned 80 this year) there's no way he would endorse or even go near the rushpublicans...the party of hate and racism.

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Re: Die alte Sau disputing history
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 08:58:16 AM »
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They've Been Trying to Peddle That Crap For Years...

No doubt the Democratic party of the past wasn't very friendly to blacks...

.....like they are now.  In fact, the Dem party is so friendly to blacks that they promise them things will get better every election year, only to toss them aside and ignore them until the next election cycle.  If they dare speak out about it, they're threatened to have what little they are so graciously given by the party leaders taken away from them.  But that's not hate and racism.  That's white individuals like KharmaTrain "protecting" them so they can be used at a later date.  And when a few of them decide they'd rather be free to vote their own conscience rather than be herded together in the collective, KharmaTrain will call them "Uncle Tom's."

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Re: Die alte Sau disputing history
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 09:14:22 AM »
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KharmaTrain  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-05-09 08:01 AM
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6. They've Been Trying to Peddle That Crap For Years...

No doubt the Democratic party of the past wasn't very friendly to blacks...the original home of Strom Thurmond and George Wallace, but by the time of Dr. King's death the GOOP had begun to court the "dixiecrats" and the Southern strategy was about to get rolling. A century ago, I would imagine many of us would have been Republicans in the Teddy Roosevelt mold...as opposed to William Jennings Bryant's "Cross of Gold" Democratic party.

Dr. King was non-partisan during his civil rights years...his mission was beyond political labels and surely if he had lived to the present time (he would have turned 80 this year) there's no way he would endorse or even go near the rushpublicans...the party of hate and racism.

From your own little cesspool..

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cboy4 (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-26-06 03:26 PM
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I just HATE HATE HATE Clarence Thomas...Every time I
 turn around and read a SCOTUS decision, this sick bastard is always stealing elections, executing retarded children, and supporting other "wonderful" republican family values.

If he ever gets mowed down by a bus crossing the street, I'm serious, party is at my place.
 

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Re: Die alte Sau disputing history
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 09:23:37 AM »
Quote from: deluded Kansan
1. Lie
2. Deceive
3. Ignore reality/history
4. Plead ignorance (or just be yourself)
5. Forget everything that happened longer than 5 minutes ago.

...what?  I'm confused...I thought this person was talking about conservatives, but it seems they're talking about liberals...
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Re: Die alte Sau disputing history
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 10:06:25 PM »
M. L. King may have been a Republican, but his "work" was funded by Communist front organizations.

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Re: Die alte Sau disputing history
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 03:22:42 AM »
M. L. King may have been a Republican, but his "work" was funded by Communist front organizations.

EXACTLY! I've heard most of my life, MLK was Repuib, but all his backers were the likes of Saul Alinsky, and the "original" Black Panthers! Not exactly a Repub point of view!
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Re: Die alte Sau disputing history
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 01:57:26 PM »
Robert KKK Byrd and Al Gore Sr, enuff said

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Re: Die alte Sau disputing history
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 04:22:04 PM »
EXACTLY! I've heard most of my life, MLK was Repuib, but all his backers were the likes of Saul Alinsky, and the "original" Black Panthers! Not exactly a Repub point of view!

being a Repub would be like camoflague