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Pedro Picasso gets tossed a couple of bones
« on: October 30, 2009, 08:26:16 PM »
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meegbear  (1000+ posts)        Fri Oct-30-09 08:30 AM
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Poll: Fox News Is Conservative!

In a shocking poll result, a new Pew survey finds that Fox News is viewed as being the most ideologically oriented of the big three cable news channels.

Fox is viewed as being conservative by 47% of Americans, as liberal by 14% (Who are these people???), and as being neither by 24%. CNN is viewed as conservative by 11%, liberal by 37%, and neither by 33%. MSNBC is seen as conservative by 11% (Again: Who are these people???), liberal by 36%, and neither by 27%.

The poll also finds that the view of Fox as being conservative is shared across groups of people who watch different networks. However, people who watch Fox are more likely to view the other networks as being liberal.

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/poll-f...

Whatever.

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la_chupa (182 posts)      Fri Oct-30-09 08:33 AM
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1. did they spend money on this

cause I could have pulled this out of my ass for free

except for that part about Faux being liberal and MSNBC being conservative

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zbdent  (1000+ posts)      Fri Oct-30-09 08:35 AM
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2. aren't the Faux defenders the ones who say that MSNBC is so liberal

because of their abundance of "liberal hosts" (3 who each have 1 hour shows, but Joe Scumborough has 3 whole hours to himself) and condemn the entire channel for that, but ignore the Repug-slants in the "news" portions of Faux's day to claim that Faux is "fair and balanced"?

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wellst0nev0ter  (1000+ posts)      Fri Oct-30-09 08:38 AM
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3. Count Me As Someone Who VIews MSRNC As Conservative

For the simple fact of what they did to Phil Donahue right before the Eye-Rack war, they are gonna have to do a lot more than three outspoken liberal hosts to make up for that.

Pedro Picasso:

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Atman  (1000+ posts)        Fri Oct-30-09 08:51 AM
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6. I'm with you. Tossing us a couple of bones during prime time doesn't make 'em Liberal.

At the heart of the matter, and that which will never change, is the fact that MSNBC is owned and operated by GE, a giant, powerful player in both the defense and insurance industries. They have the weakest ratings of all The Cables, they're not even carried in many/most markets -- they diversify their content in an attempt to draw in a few more viewers...they don't really care where they get them. But they are and always will be beholden to the corporate board and the quarterly balance sheets for GE's defense and insurance businesses.

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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts)        Fri Oct-30-09 09:21 AM
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9. A couple of bones?

6:00 pm Ed Schultz
7:00 pm Chris Matthews
8:00 pm Keith Olbermann
9:00 pm Rachel Maddow
10:00 pm Keith Olbermann (R)
11:00 pm Chris Matthews (R)

Even if you don't think the Chris Matthews is the most liberal guy in the world, you'd have to be an idiot to think that he's anything but FAR to the left of just about anybody on Fox News. MSNBC is giving us six hours of center- to center-left talk every weekday.

Not to put too fina a point on it, but these are the poeople who put Rachel Maddow on television. In my book, that makes up for their canning Phil Donohue (which I agree was NOT cool).

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tridim  (1000+ posts)        Fri Oct-30-09 11:44 AM
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12. Morning Joe is the only non-liberal show/host on MSNBC

I'm not sure why the poster thinks otherwise. Kind of strange.

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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts)        Fri Oct-30-09 11:53 AM
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13. And even that show attempts to be balanced...

Scarborough often makes me want to hurl, but at least they have some decent sparring partners on the show. I respect him for that, at least. Or at most. Or whatever.

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Vincardog  (1000+ posts)      Fri Oct-30-09 12:14 PM
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14. What do you expect from a company owned by GE? GEMsnbc

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bluescribbler  (824 posts)        Fri Oct-30-09 08:39 AM
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4. Duh!!! 

Only 47%? It would seem that the majority of Americans don't really understand what the term, "conservative", really means.

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TheCowsCameHome  (1000+ posts)      Fri Oct-30-09 09:05 AM
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7. Breaking news: Sun rises in the east.

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bulloney (1000+ posts)     Fri Oct-30-09 09:19 AM
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8. Where do the people come from who think FOX is liberal?

It's scary enough to think there are people out there who are so ignorant that they think FOX is objective, let alone liberal.

This whole notion about the news media being a bastion of liberalism is ridiculous. Conservatives have he luxury of hearing RW talk radio all day from the likes of Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, et al. Their spin on the news becomes their listeners' baseline for news objectivity. So, if these same people watch the evening news and they hear any balance in the story, they immediately paint the broad stroke across the entire industry as "liberal."

If the MSM gerbils were so liberal, there would have been more scrutiny in the outcome of the 2000 and '04 presidential elections. There would have been more research and information against invading Iraq. Cheney and his daughter would be discredited as the corrupt buffoons that they are. People like Beck and Kristol wouldn't have a forum to regularly spew their nonsense, and so on.

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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts)      Fri Oct-30-09 09:25 AM
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10. MSNBC is seen as conservative by 11% (Again: Who are these people???)

They might be watching Morning Joe or, perhaps, Mrs. Alan Greenspan.

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sinkingfeeling  (1000+ posts)        Fri Oct-30-09 10:19 AM
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11. I would vote both Fox and MSNBC conservative and CNN as neither.

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Towlie (1000+ posts)        Fri Oct-30-09 06:58 PM
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15. Deja Vu! Ed Shultz just said "who are these folks?" Almost what you said.

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Fuzz  (1000+ posts)      Fri Oct-30-09 07:10 PM
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16. "We watch that Republican channel" a comment from a person I met on vacation in 2000.

My response was, "Um, Fox?"

"Yeah! That's it!"

I glanced at my wife with the 'oy' look.
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Re: Pedro Picasso gets tossed a couple of bones
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2009, 08:34:47 PM »
Of course since the majority of the people in the country consider themselves conservative I'm guessing they wouldn't be too put out about 1 whole stations that leans to the right.

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Re: Pedro Picasso gets tossed a couple of bones
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2009, 03:23:12 AM »
la_chupa ....1. did they spend money on this

cause I could have pulled this out of my ass for free


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Re: Pedro Picasso gets tossed a couple of bones
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2009, 08:35:39 AM »
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.... MSNBC is owned and operated by GE, a giant, powerful player in both the defense and insurance industries.

That explains a lot.  If you're stupid enough to believe conservative vs. liberal is based upon corporate vs. non-corporate, then you're going to reach all sorts of false conclusions.

Poor Pedro.

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This whole notion about the news media being a bastion of liberalism is ridiculous. Conservatives have he (sic) luxury of hearing RW talk radio all day from the likes of Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, et al. Their spin on the news becomes their listeners' baseline for news objectivity. So, if these same people watch the evening news and they hear any balance in the story, they immediately paint the broad stroke across the entire industry as "liberal."

That would almost be true except for one small problem: I'm old enough to have watched the NBC, CBS, and ABC News (news reporting you would call "balanced") when it was the only thing on, long before CNN and all these other channels were even dreamed up, and I knew NBC, CBS, and ABC were liberal then.  CNN came along and was liberal 24/7.  So I , and milions upon millions upon million of others, knew the networks were liberal, and not balanced, before it ever became an issue.

You kooks are so far to the left you believe mainstream America is far right.  You've been reminded and told about this time and time again, but you're too stupid to figure it out, a statement I would obtain great pleasure of saying to your face.

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Re: Pedro Picasso gets tossed a couple of bones
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2009, 09:21:33 AM »
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Fuzz  (1000+ posts)      Fri Oct-30-09 07:10 PM
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16. "We watch that Republican channel" a comment from a person I met on vacation in 2000.

My response was, "Um, Fox?"

"Yeah! That's it!"

I glanced at my wife with the 'oy' look.

You can't make this up folks ..... oh, wait .... I think it just did.

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Re: Pedro Picasso gets tossed a couple of bones
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2009, 09:32:04 AM »
That explains a lot.  If you're stupid enough to believe conservative vs. liberal is based upon corporate vs. non-corporate, then you're going to reach all sorts of false conclusions.

Poor Pedro.

That would almost be true except for one small problem: I'm old enough to have watched the NBC, CBS, and ABC News (news reporting you would call "balanced") when it was the only thing on, long before CNN and all these other channels were even dreamed up, and I knew NBC, CBS, and ABC were liberal then.  CNN came along and was liberal 24/7.  So I , and milions upon millions upon million of others, knew the networks were liberal, and not balanced, before it ever became an issue.

You kooks are so far to the left you believe mainstream America is far right.  You've been reminded and told about this time and time again, but you're too stupid to figure it out, a statement I would obtain great pleasure of saying to your face.

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Re: Pedro Picasso gets tossed a couple of bones
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2009, 09:46:10 AM »
The only poll that really tells us anything about cable news is the ratings.  FOX News has double and triple the audience of the rest of them.  That is all you really need to know.  A VAST VAST MAJORITY of people who seek their news from cable television do so by watching FOX News.  The normal folks, which is almost everyone outside of Little Goon Village, aren't tuning in to make themselves miserable.  They like it and appreciate the fact FOX News is available.

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Re: Pedro Picasso gets tossed a couple of bones
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2009, 02:08:05 PM »
Most Americans have no idea what a "public option" is.

Even conservatives want to see reform. Just not leftwing idiotic reform.

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Re: Pedro Picasso gets tossed a couple of bones
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2009, 03:43:15 PM »
Even conservatives want to see reform. Just not leftwing idiotic reform.

In my lifetime, not one single government initiative called "reform" has been anything but very, very bad.
So, no, I do not want to see "reform". I'm pretty well satisfied with the best medical system in the world.

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Re: Pedro Picasso gets tossed a couple of bones
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2009, 05:25:20 PM »
In my lifetime, not one single government initiative called "reform" has been anything but very, very bad.
So, no, I do not want to see "reform". I'm pretty well satisfied with the best medical system in the world.

If reform equals tort reform, I'm all for it.
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