Lindsey Graham calls out Glenn Beck

[BEG]

I had to look that up! 

This part concerns me: "Believed to be an omen of death if one was ever to see their Doppelgänger."

 

[Lord Undies]

   


I think of Glenn Beck as more of a John Stossel type who warns us of Government corruption (on both sides) as well as someone who is trying to remind us of how he feels our founding fathers saw this country.   If he is just an alarmist then why has his actions brought about actual change?  Think of the czars/advisors (Van Jones "resigned" and the others that are soon to follow), the NEA as well as shining the light on Acorn (even way before the pimp/ho tapes came out), etc.  Would you know any of the inner workings of ACORN other than their voter fraud or Obama's connections to all his czars/advisors?  Would you know about Valerie Jarrett or the real reason Obama went to pimp the office of the Presidency for the Olympics?  For someone you label an alarmist, he sure has done more to damage the "progressive cause" than any single republican senator or congressman in the short time he has had his show on fox.

Have you ever sat down and watched his show from beginning to end?  Yes he is a bit quirky, yes he wears his emotions on his sleeve but he believes everything he says with conviction.  When I first started listening to him a few years ago I will admit that he scared the hell out of me frequently.  I think I wasn't ready to accept that I didn't belong to the Republican party.  The only other option would be the democrats and that isn't going to happen so when I woke up and realized that I don't have to belong to any one party I felt free.  I would love to call myself a Republican again if the Republicans get their shit together.  For now I label myself a conservative libertarian.

Thank you, dear.  You said everything my pained fingers didn't want to type.  You have earned the Undies Appreciation Award.  

[BEG]

Thank you, dear.  You said everything my pained fingers didn't want to type.  You have earned the Undies Appreciation Award.  

I think I should get an Undies Life Time Achievement Award.   

[bkg]

LOL. 

[Mustang]

Please feel free to expand on the bolded portion.  What, according to your opinion, should his priorities be?

Speaking of having confused priorities...  who in their right mind works for free?  Especially at your age.  Who is paying your bills?

I am under the assumption that the job you like is your internship with the GOP.  If I am incorrect please correct me.

Yes I work for free for the GOP.
My boss, who is in charge of 5 counties, assures me that I will have a job with the GOP within 3 months or possibly if we win the election.
I have other means of income as well. And yes my job is working as an intern for the GOP, I work 6 days a week.
And I graduated college a year ago, I have a BFA in painting.

Rush is much more concerned with the big picture. Crushing the democrats and liberals through means of media and voting.
Beck just wants everyone to be pissed off and protest.
Remember that story I told you about that professor I had?
IMO, protesting can only get you so far with some media attention. It's much more effective to infiltrate the system and change it from within.

Protesting = 
Setting the agenda = 

[bkg]

Yes I work for free for the GOP.
My boss, who is in charge of 5 counties, assures me that I will have a job with the GOP within 3 months or possibly if we win the election.
I have other means of income as well. And yes my job is working as an intern for the GOP, I work 6 days a week.
And I graduated college a year ago, I have a BFA in painting.

Rush is much more concerned with the big picture. Crushing the democrats and liberals through means of media and voting.
Beck just wants everyone to be pissed off and protest.
Remember that story I told you about that professor I had?
IMO, protesting can only get you so far with some media attention. It's much more effective to infiltrate the system and change it from within.

Protesting = 
Setting the agenda = 

Not sure I'm following how Beck is wrong here... or on what.

[Mustang]

I think of Glenn Beck as more of a John Stossel type who warns us of Government corruption (on both sides) as well as someone who is trying to remind us of how he feels our founding fathers saw this country.   If he is just an alarmist then why has his actions brought about actual change?  Think of the czars/advisors (Van Jones "resigned" and the others that are soon to follow), the NEA as well as shining the light on Acorn (even way before the pimp/ho tapes came out), etc.  Would you know any of the inner workings of ACORN other than their voter fraud or Obama's connections to all his czars/advisors?  Would you know about Valerie Jarrett or the real reason Obama went to pimp the office of the Presidency for the Olympics?  For someone you label an alarmist, he sure has done more to damage the "progressive cause" than any single republican senator or congressman in the short time he has had his show on fox.

Have you ever sat down and watched his show from beginning to end?  Yes he is a bit quirky, yes he wears his emotions on his sleeve but he believes everything he says with conviction.  When I first started listening to him a few years ago I will admit that he scared the hell out of me frequently.  I think I wasn't ready to accept that I didn't belong to the Republican party.  The only other option would be the democrats and that isn't going to happen so when I woke up and realized that I don't have to belong to any one party I felt free.  I would love to call myself a Republican again if the Republicans get their shit together.  For now I label myself a conservative libertarian.

I like the fact that he goes after Obama's adminstration and the Progressive movement.
But he annoys me with his every politician and political party sucks no matter what attitude, except being "libertarian".
I just feel the other conservative media stars such as Rush, Ingrahm, Coulter, Rove, Levin, etc. are much more effective at getting their message across.

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Yes I work for free for the GOP.
My boss, who is in charge of 5 counties, assures me that I will have a job with the GOP within 3 months or possibly if we win the election.
I have other means of income as well. And yes my job is working as an intern for the GOP, I work 6 days a week.
And I graduated college a year ago, I have a BFA in painting.

Rush is much more concerned with the big picture. Crushing the democrats and liberals through means of media and voting.
Beck just wants everyone to be pissed off and protest.
Remember that story I told you about that professor I had?
IMO, protesting can only get you so far with some media attention. It's much more effective to infiltrate the system and change it from within.

Protesting = 
Setting the agenda = 

Why can't we do both?  I'm pretty sure that the protests HAVE changed things.  The town hall meetings have had a HUGE effect.  If we didn't have either of the two I am positive that we would have that MONSTROSITY of a healthcare bill already.  Besides, Beck is trying to do both, get people to wake up AND trying to change it from within.  He is trying to get politicians to be "Refounders".  If you don't know what it is, look it up.

[bkg]

Why can't we do both?  I'm pretty sure that the protests HAVE changed things.  The town hall meetings have had a HUGE effect.  If we didn't have either of the two I am positive that we would have that MONSTROSITY of a healthcare bill already.  Besides, Beck is trying to do both, get people to wake up AND trying to change it from within.  He is trying to get politicians to be "Refounders".  If you don't know what it is, look it up.

Spot on, IMHO.

[rich_t]

Yes I work for free for the GOP.

and Beck has his priorities confused?  I notice you didn't answer my question as to what YOU think they should be.

My boss, who is in charge of 5 counties, assures me that I will have a job with the GOP within 3 months or possibly if we win the election.

Did he put that in writing?  Or are you niave enough to take it on faith?

I have other means of income as well.

Such as?  Who is paying your bills?

And yes my job is working as an intern for the GOP, I work 6 days a week.
And I graduated college a year ago, I have a BFA in painting.

Do you recommend latex or enamel for kitchens and bathrooms?  

Rush is much more concerned with the big picture. Crushing the democrats and liberals through means of media and voting.

I have heard Beck more than once advocate voting.  In addition I have heard him say go out and protest which has as much, if not more, clout than mere voting.

Beck just wants everyone to be pissed off and protest.

And that is a bad thing why?

Remember that story I told you about that professor I had?
IMO, protesting can only get you so far with some media attention. It's much more effective to infiltrate the system and change it from within.

Yeah...  the whole keyboard/phone commando thing doesn't actually work in the real world that most adults live im.

Protesting =  
Setting the agenda =  




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And you still haven't told us what, in your opionion, Beck's priorities should be.  All you have to say is that they are wrong according to YOU.

[Mustang]

Did he put that in writing?  Or are you niave enough to take it on faith?

We stopped having a conversation and have ended up on smart ass zone now.
At least I'm doing something with my time and it gives me good resume input.
WTF are you doing? sitting on your butt hoping for some magical candidate to walk by?
Now who is Nieve?

[BEG]

We stopped having a conversation and have ended up on smart ass zone now.
At least I'm doing something with my time and it gives me good resume input.
WTF are you doing? sitting on your butt hoping for some magical candidate to walk by?
Now who is Nieve?

I think you should be commended for working for a politician you believe in, especially for free. 

[Mustang]

I think you should be commended for working for a politician you believe in, especially for free. 

Thank you.

[rich_t]

We stopped having a conversation and have ended up on smart ass zone now.
At least I'm doing something with my time and it gives me good resume input.
WTF are you doing? sitting on your butt hoping for some magical candidate to walk by?
Now who is Nieve?

My my my...  pull up your underroos.  I asked you a legit question.

A job offer that is NOT in writing is NOT a legit job offer.

At your age you should know this.

I've never worked for free.  I have more respect for my time and effort than that.

I've asked another legit question that you refuse to answer.  WHO IS PAYING YOUR BILLS?  It sure ain't you if you are working for free.

Your idealism is not necessarily a bad thing, but there comes a point when it becomes niave.

[rich_t]

I think you should be commended for working for a politician you believe in, especially for free. 

Yup... especially when someone else is paying the bills.

Personally, I've never had that luxury once I turned 18.

[Mustang]

My my my...  pull up your underroos.  I asked you a legit question.

A job offer that is NOT in writing is NOT a legit job offer.

At your age you should know this.

I've never worked for free.  I have more respect for my time and effort than that.

I've asked another legit question that you refuse to answer.  WHO IS PAYING YOUR BILLS?  It sure ain't you if you are working for free.

Your idealism is not necessarily a bad thing, but there comes a point when it becomes niave.

Oh, for a "conservative", you sure are damn nosy about what people do with their time and income.
Is there some kind of point to your questions about my personal time that you feel the need to exploit because you have nothing better to do?
It's none of your damn business, but I have a secure income. And I will leave it at that.
I'm not going to disclose to you my financial information to prove a point that my life is worth a damn.

And you know what, brother. This is America, I will do, be, think, oppose, and support whatever the F*ck I want.
And if you want to believe in nothing because you've had one too many dissapointments, then its also your freedom to be a miserable, angry toad. (But I wouldn't recommend it.)

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Yup... especially when someone else is paying the bills.

Personally, I've never had that luxury once I turned 18.

my son has to have TWO internships to graduate college and neither of them will be paid.  Oh and he is 20. 

[Mustang]

my son has to have TWO internships to graduate college and neither of them will be paid.  Oh and he is 20.  

Considering I have 0 valuable work experience. And I can't get a decent job to get experience,  I have no choice but to work for free.
It's either that or go back to working at a warehouse...

[BEG]

Considering I have 0 valuable work experience. And I can't get a decent job to get experience,  I have no choice but to work for free.
It's either that or go back to working at a warehouse...

I was defending you. 

[rich_t]

Oh, for a "conservative", you sure are damn nosy about what people do with their time and income.
Is there some kind of point to your questions about my personal time that you feel the need to exploit because you have nothing better to do?
It's none of your damn business, but I have a secure income. And I will leave it at that.
I'm not going to disclose to you my financial information to prove a point that my life is worth a damn.

And you know what, brother. This is America, I will do, be, think, oppose, and support whatever the F*ck I want.

Ok.  I get get.

You ain't paying your own bills.

That tells me a bit.  

You can't make your own ****ing way and are content to let others support you. (a lot of liberals do that shit too)

You are a conservative my ass.  Conservatives pay their own way under their own efforts. (But you don't, do you Mr. GOP supporter?)

Get a real ****ing job for a few years and get back to me ok sweet pea?  One that you actually get paid to do and pay taxes on the income.

I could regale you with stories about the million $ + equipment that I was personally responsible for when I was 21.  Or the multi-million $ budget I was responsible for when I was your age.

But what the ****...  You are a GOP intern working for free, while someone else is paying your bills and you know every ****ing thing there is to know right?

You don don't jack shit junior.

[Mustang]

I was defending you. 

I know. I was just making a point about how hard it is to get a career going these days, even with a degree.

Unless you have a PHD, degrees mean nothing. It's just a + with experience. All of my friends didn't start getting white collar careers until they were
in their late 20's/ early 30's.  

[rich_t]

my son has to have TWO internships to graduate college and neither of them will be paid.  Oh and he is 20. 

Yeah...  But Mustang already has his degree. A BFA in painting no less.

College required internships are not the same.

[rich_t]

Considering I have 0 valuable work experience. And I can't get a decent job to get experience,  I have no choice but to work for free.
It's either that or go back to working at a warehouse...

You are 26 and have 0 valuable work experience?

Gee... how did that happen?

[Mustang]

You ain't paying your own bills.

Well I pay for most of my things--credit card, gas, food, etc.
But it really isn't your business what or what I don't pay.

You say my work is bull sh*t, but people pay for their masters.

So, do I take 40k in loans for an MFA? or do I work as an intern for a couple months to get a starting salary of $2250 a month at a job I love doing?

[Mustang]

You are 26 and have 0 valuable work experience?

Gee... how did that happen?

My father is a retired electrical engineer who lived with his mom until he was 29
He inspected train and locomotive batteries for the New York Transit authority.