WORLD REJECTS OBAMA: CHICAGO OUT IN FIRST ROUND

[thundley4]

Dear Leader isn't a Christian, though I'm sure he falsely believes himself to be one.  So to say he understands someone of whom he isn't even a follower?  Not so much.

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I wouldn't even agree that 0Bama knows the Constitution, except for the parts that he is breaking.

[LC EFA]

A good part of the reason he was elected was that Bush had been such a disaster, and then he got elected a second time!  Freaked the other half of the country out.  So, they put forward a candidate that was intelligent, knew the constitution and shared a vision that wasn't just about guns and White Makes Right. Someone who actually understands what Jesus was about; knows he is not a gun fetishist, antisemite, or exclusively for white folk.

There is a lot being said on this website that some of you must realize is just nuts.  What about it makes it Conservative?  What about it makes it Christian?  What about it makes it good citizenship?  What about it distinguishes it from our enemies way of thinking?

Seems we have a new chew toy. 

[Eupher]

A good part of the reason he was elected was that Bush had been such a disaster,...

In what way? Specifics, please. But before you engage in a lot of GWB bashing, let me say right out of the box that the bailout was a hugely bad idea that your hero jumped on since he didn't have his own ideas about how to fix the problem that the Dems created back under your other hero Jimmy.

...and then he got elected a second time!  Freaked the other half of the country out.

And the better candidate was John Kerry?    

So, they put forward a candidate that was intelligent, knew the constitution and shared a vision that wasn't just about guns and White Makes Right.

I'll go with the intelligent part - Hitler was intelligent too. And since your hero was a constitutional lawyer, there shouldn't be any surprises there - except that your hero has forgotten all about the 10th Amendment (along with most of the rest of Congress).

Someone who actually understands what Jesus was about; knows he is not a gun fetishist, antisemite, or exclusively for white folk.

Yeah, I suppose that even Mohammed knew and understood what Jesus was about, just as Satan understands what Jesus is about too. Your point?

There is a lot being said on this website that some of you must realize is just nuts.  What about it makes it Conservative?  What about it makes it Christian?  What about it makes it good citizenship?  What about it distinguishes it from our enemies way of thinking?

Our? Who's "we", Kemo Sabe?

You waltz onto this site and in your first post proceed to illustrate just how full of Kool-Aid you are.

You should be careful about the red Kool-Aid. It gives you a red tongue - at least that's what they trumpet over on DU.

[BadCat]

Hey moonbat...who said that this is a Christian website?
Why do you think all conservatives are Christian?  Or religious?

Broad brush much?

[USA4ME]

Gonna break this down.

A good part of the reason he was elected was that Bush had been such a disaster, and then he got elected a second time!  Freaked the other half of the country out.

Bush a disaster?  Matter of opinion.  That half of the country freaked out, again a matter of opinion.  But these kooks had already been on the warpath for 4 years, and they freak out if some TV personality says something even marginally critical of a Democrat/liberal.  So that they freaked out wouldn't be much of a surprise.  It's what they do.

So, they put forward a candidate that was intelligent,

Matter of opinion.

knew the constitution

Matter of opinion.

and shared a vision that wasn't just about guns and White Makes Right.

I am not aware of any candidate that held a platform that was "just about guns," and I certainly can't recall anyone who even remotely conducts themselves in a vision of "White Makes Right."  Race has nothing to do with any of this.

Someone who actually understands what Jesus was about;

Already went over that.

knows he is not a gun fetishist,

Is someone defending the 2nd Amendment considered to be a "gun fetishist?"  That's an awful odd topic to try and use to be convincing.

antisemite,

I'm not aware of this being an issue with Republican presidental candiates, mainly because it's not.

or exclusively for white folk.

Your language is on the verge of being racist.  Once again, race is not a factor here.

There is a lot being said on this website that some of you must realize is just nuts.

We do quote DU quite often, I'll give you that.

What about it makes it Conservative?

It's not.  DUers are liberal.

What about it makes it Christian?

Got me.  They do a lot of Christian bashing over there.

What about it makes it good citizenship?

The DUmmies will tell you what they want for you is for your own good, and to them that's being a good, obedient citizen.

What about it distinguishes it from our enemies way of thinking?

We've been saying the same things about DU for years now.  Glad you noticed that they're nutsos.

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[Thor]

A good part of the reason he was elected was that Bush had been such a disaster, and then he got elected a second time!  Freaked the other half of the country out.  So, they put forward a candidate that was intelligent, knew the constitution and shared a vision that wasn't just about guns and White Makes Right. Someone who actually understands what Jesus was about; knows he is not a gun fetishist, antisemite, or exclusively for white folk.

There is a lot being said on this website that some of you must realize is just nuts.  What about it makes it Conservative?  What about it makes it Christian?  What about it makes it good citizenship?  What about it distinguishes it from our enemies way of thinking?

Bush was re-elected because we were in a war. Peopl;e were giving him the benefit of the doubt. Besides, like other said, John (I hurt my thumb and deserve a purple heart) Kerry?? 

The founders of this country believed in guns and that it's citizens should have them. Otherwise, it wouldn't have been written into the Bill of Rights.

Finally, 0bama is on record for stating that the Constitution is fundamentally flawed and outdated. Sorry, it was written by inspired geniuses.

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

A good part of the reason he was elected was that Bush had been such a disaster, and then he got elected a second time!  Freaked the other half of the country out.  So, they put forward a candidate that was intelligent, knew the constitution and shared a vision that wasn't just about guns and White Makes Right. Someone who actually understands what Jesus was about; knows he is not a gun fetishist, antisemite, or exclusively for white folk.

There is a lot being said on this website that some of you must realize is just nuts.  What about it makes it Conservative?  What about it makes it Christian?  What about it makes it good citizenship?  What about it distinguishes it from our enemies way of thinking?

Where are you from Ann Arbor,Ferndale or Royal Oak?

[The Village Idiot]

A good part of the reason he was elected was that Bush had been such a disaster, and then he got elected a second time!  Freaked the other half of the country out.  So, they put forward a candidate that was intelligent, knew the constitution and shared a vision that wasn't just about guns and White Makes Right. Someone who actually understands what Jesus was about; knows he is not a gun fetishist, antisemite, or exclusively for white folk.

There is a lot being said on this website that some of you must realize is just nuts.  What about it makes it Conservative?  What about it makes it Christian?  What about it makes it good citizenship?  What about it distinguishes it from our enemies way of thinking?

He is not an anti-semite? Are you really sure about that? he basically told Israel to stop making babies. His vision is that government power makes right over the people and he HATES the Bill of Rights. The man is anti-American to the core.

[TheSarge]

A good part of the reason he was elected was that Bush had been such a disaster, and then he got elected a second time!

What exactly was a "disaster"?  Details please. 

Freaked the other half of the country out.

 

The 35% of this country that is hard core Libtard like you STAYS freaked out no matter who is in office.

So, they put forward a candidate that was intelligent, knew the constitution and shared a vision that wasn't just about guns and White Makes Right.

I want to see his college transcripts before we determine how smart he is.

He has stated that he views the Constitution as a "fundamentally flawed document"...so how can you say he "knew" the Constitution?  That last little bit of racist whitewash on your part doesn't even deserve a response.

Someone who actually understands what Jesus was about;

ANYONE who claims the know what Jesus is really about...doesn't have a clue.

knows he is not a gun fetishist,

He's actually hardcore anti-Second Amendment.

antisemite, or exclusively for white folk.

He's turned his back on Israel in support of Iran.  And he's half white himself.

Was there a point you were trying to make?

There is a lot being said on this website that some of you must realize is just nuts.

 

Says the lunatic Liberal.

What about it makes it Conservative?  What about it makes it Christian?  What about it makes it good citizenship?  What about it distinguishes it from our enemies way of thinking?

What are your bona fides that give you some kind of moral high ground to judge us?


Moron. 

[Chris_]

Seems we have a new chew toy. 

I know this one already seems to have a few chewing him as we watch this is going to be fun to witness

[Daisy]

I'm pondering why OPapaDoc was elected in the first place.
Well, here was this attractive, tall, slim, beige skinned, unthreatening, Harvard trained, mullato, who sent thrills up Chris Mathews legs (asnd the MSMs too) running for POTUS in a country of citizens falling all over themselves to prove to themselves and the world that they are not racists. (Which is  in itself racist.)

In addition to which, he proves on almost a daily basis that he's not up to the job...which is why the country is no longer into him.

[BaerReid]

Having fun yet?

I'm tempted to say that I rest my case, but..., maybe there are witnesses reading along, who can hear my view with some accuracy.

First, I asked how this stuff (especially the most violent and angry) represents conservatism, which is after all, included in the name of the website.  Conservatism as I understand it requires its opposite, liberalism, to provide its meaning.

Then, since Jesus is often mentioned in these forums, I wondered just how the other popular subject of weaponry fits in with that.  Perhaps, if that question doesn't apply to you, you could just let someone else answer it.

And, as for the "White folks" remark;  Well, you all should really read through some of these postings. If it doesn't apply to you, it doesn't apply to you, but have you called your neighbor out on it?

I respect anyone who is trying to honestly understand the state of things, but could hardly be expected to respect most of what my first post elicited. 

I do admit to an element of judgment on my part. Hard to not take some things personally. But that is always the root of failure.

[dutch508]

Having fun yet?

I'm tempted to say that I rest my case, but..., maybe there are witnesses reading along, who can hear my view with some accuracy.

First, I asked how this stuff (especially the most violent and angry) represents conservatism, which is after all, included in the name of the website.  Conservatism as I understand it requires its opposite, liberalism, to provide its meaning.

Then, since Jesus is often mentioned in these forums, I wondered just how the other popular subject of weaponry fits in with that.  Perhaps, if that question doesn't apply to you, you could just let someone else answer it.

And, as for the "White folks" remark;  Well, you all should really read through some of these postings. If it doesn't apply to you, it doesn't apply to you, but have you called your neighbor out on it?

I respect anyone who is trying to honestly understand the state of things, but could hardly be expected to respect most of what my first post elicited. 

I do admit to an element of judgment on my part. Hard to not take some things personally. But that is always the root of failure.

you are a ****-******* ***** *****.

and your mom owes me a nickle back.

[ardentconservative]

Hi everyone, several months ago my computer crashed becasue of a virus.  I bought a new one and couldn't get on the forum.  Couldn't contact Admin for same reason.  So I have been coming in as a vistor and what did I see this time I came to the forum.  My avatar.  I wondered why and discovered I was logged on.  How I don't know but I am and am glad to be back.

Now the subject in question.  Boy was I ever glad when Obama didn't get the Olympics for Chicago.

Why?  For one he got his come uppance and the other that he wasn't able, in this instance, to pay off his political buddies in Chicago.

[Crazy Horse]

Hi everyone, several months ago my computer crashed becasue of a virus.  I bought a new one and couldn't get on the forum.  Couldn't contact Admin for same reason.  So I have been coming in as a vistor and what did I see this time I came to the forum.  My avatar.  I wondered why and discovered I was logged on.  How I don't know but I am and am glad to be back.

Now the subject in question.  Boy was I ever glad when Obama didn't get the Olympics for Chicago.

Why?  For one he got his come uppance and the other that he wasn't able, in this instance, to pay off his political buddies in Chicago.

You damn racist

[Crazy Horse]

Having fun yet?

I'm tempted to say that I rest my case, but..., maybe there are witnesses reading along, who can hear my view with some accuracy.

First, I asked how this stuff (especially the most violent and angry) represents conservatism, which is after all, included in the name of the website.  Conservatism as I understand it requires its opposite, liberalism, to provide its meaning.

Then, since Jesus is often mentioned in these forums, I wondered just how the other popular subject of weaponry fits in with that.  Perhaps, if that question doesn't apply to you, you could just let someone else answer it.

And, as for the "White folks" remark;  Well, you all should really read through some of these postings. If it doesn't apply to you, it doesn't apply to you, but have you called your neighbor out on it?

I respect anyone who is trying to honestly understand the state of things, but could hardly be expected to respect most of what my first post elicited. 

I do admit to an element of judgment on my part. Hard to not take some things personally. But that is always the root of failure.

You damn moron.................rest your case???????....... make a case first dumbass

[NHSparky]

Having fun yet?

Nah, you're still too tough and stringy for our new chew toy, but give it time.

I'm tempted to say that I rest my case, but..., maybe there are witnesses reading along, who can hear my view with some accuracy.

Witnesses, or DUmmies taking screen caps of the page?  Here, I'll type slowly so you don't **** it up.

First, I asked how this stuff (especially the most violent and angry) represents conservatism, which is after all, included in the name of the website.  Conservatism as I understand it requires its opposite, liberalism, to provide its meaning.

How "enlightened" of you.  Sorry, you've quite over-simplified.  We could go on for hours about that, but that's for another post.

Then, since Jesus is often mentioned in these forums, I wondered just how the other popular subject of weaponry fits in with that.  Perhaps, if that question doesn't apply to you, you could just let someone else answer it.

Luke 22:35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. 36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. 37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. 38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.




And you're just a root.  Once again, you FAIL.

[The Village Idiot]

First, I asked how this stuff (especially the most violent and angry) represents conservatism, which is after all, included in the name of the website.  Conservatism as I understand it requires its opposite, liberalism, to provide its meaning.

Violent attacks must be met with violence. How else are we to fight off the hate and vitriol of the leftists in this world?

Leftism is an ideology of hate at its core. You hate that people can take care of themselves and want them to rely on you. It might work in some countries, it likely will not work here.

[Eupher]

Having fun yet?

I'm tempted to say that I rest my case, but..., maybe there are witnesses reading along, who can hear my view with some accuracy.

First, I asked how this stuff (especially the most violent and angry) represents conservatism, which is after all, included in the name of the website.  Conservatism as I understand it requires its opposite, liberalism, to provide its meaning.

Then, since Jesus is often mentioned in these forums, I wondered just how the other popular subject of weaponry fits in with that.  Perhaps, if that question doesn't apply to you, you could just let someone else answer it.

And, as for the "White folks" remark;  Well, you all should really read through some of these postings. If it doesn't apply to you, it doesn't apply to you, but have you called your neighbor out on it?

I respect anyone who is trying to honestly understand the state of things, but could hardly be expected to respect most of what my first post elicited.  

I do admit to an element of judgment on my part. Hard to not take some things personally. But that is always the root of failure.

Sigh. Drive-by posters like you are simply boring. You don't want discussion, you simply want to troll. There have been several attempts to discuss your ridiculous talking points with you, but you apparently don't have the interest or the time to actually get answers to your questions. Or is it that you don't like the answers you're getting?

Either way, it's boring.

White folk, black folk, brown folk. It's all folk. What's your point? Are you seeing some racist statements somewhere? Care to linky-dink some of that? Probably not, because that would take some effort on your part. Most of us fully realize that liberals like you are inherently lazy, elitist thugs who would rather troll around than have civil discourse.

But that's okay. I understand.

Some things just don't change.

Hey, here's an idea! Come on back when you can't stay so long!

 

[ardentconservative]

You damn racist

Gee, Crazy Horse, thanks for the compliment.

[BaerReid]

Sigh. Drive-by posters like you are simply boring. You don't want discussion, you simply want to troll. There have been several attempts to discuss your ridiculous talking points with you, but you apparently don't have the interest or the time to actually get answers to your questions. Or is it that you don't like the answers you're getting?

Either way, it's boring.

White folk, black folk, brown folk. It's all folk. What's your point? Are you seeing some racist statements somewhere? Care to linky-dink some of that? Probably not, because that would take some effort on your part. Most of us fully realize that liberals like you are inherently lazy, elitist thugs who would rather troll around than have civil discourse.

But that's okay. I understand.

Some things just don't change.

Hey, here's an idea! Come on back when you can't stay so long!

 

You seem Ok,  except for the part about my points being ridiculous, which pretty much ends a discussion. Civil or otherwise.  And then there is the assumption that I am a liberal and therefore a lazy, elitist thug.

You are right about my not liking the answers that I get.  They are mostly the rhetoric of sabotage, but there are a few points that I'll circle back to and work out a bit, before I end this trolling excursion.  A term that confuses me, since it implies that I'll be moving on shortly.  Probably true since I'm not really fitting in all that well, am I?  Sort of self fulfilling don't you think?

And by the way,  are my "talking points" ridiculous and beneath you contemplation or somehow just not easy.

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I know (having just now checked out your website and a few none political posts) that I was right in my gut response to you as a person. (See first three words of this post)   I would probably like you. Maybe jam with you a bit if my banjo worked with an euphonium, but my posts were the best effort of somebody who feels just as strongly about what they perceive to be right and good, as anybody else here.  One thing that the Bush years did for me was make it clear that I had to stand up and protect that "rightness". I am also grateful to George W. Bush for making it possible for me to help elect someone I admire to lead the country.  I didn't think I would get to relax about who was president ever again, that the whole thing was going to hell in a hand basket (sound familiar).  It's not the politics but the man I admire.  Politics is a pretty lousy business. Political thinking is, in my mind, a form of brain damage.  I trust Barack Obama to do his best. And my sensibilities align closely with his. So, I defend him.

What I am addressing in my "ridiculous talking points" is dishonesty, unthinking rhetoric, lust for power, false religion, lack of compassion, self serving ideology, hegemony of the rich and powerful, racism, deliberate incitement to civil war, etc.   And I don't just mean the American versions of these (just to short circuit the love it or leave nonsense), it's a worldwide plague.

I'm sorry if you're bored but I've got work to do.

[Hawkgirl]

 It's not the politics but the man I admire.  Politics is a pretty lousy business. Political thinking is, in my mind, a form of brain damage.  I trust Barack Obama to do his best. And my sensibilities align closely with his. So, I defend him.

  Wipe your mouth when you're done....It's hard to have a serious conversation when you're drooling.  You basically made everyone's point for them.  You don't admire his politics, but admire the MAN?  Well, I hope he makes you FFITP(thanks to Schade for this great acronym)....but his politics will ruin this great country...now get off your knees DUmmy.

[Schadenfreude]

I am die Hawkgirl!  

[Eupher]

Wipe your mouth when you're done....It's hard to have a serious conversation when you're drooling.  You basically made everyone's point for them.  You don't admire his politics, but admire the MAN?  Well, I hope he makes you FFITP(thanks to Schade for this great acronym)....but his politics will ruin this great country...now get off your knees DUmmy.

Uh....some of us haven't had the benefit of knowing the various acronyms that are bandied about. Can you please translate?

[Eupher]

You seem Ok,  except for the part about my points being ridiculous, which pretty much ends a discussion. Civil or otherwise.  And then there is the assumption that I am a liberal and therefore a lazy, elitist thug.

You are right about my not liking the answers that I get.  They are mostly the rhetoric of sabotage, but there are a few points that I'll circle back to and work out a bit, before I end this trolling excursion.  A term that confuses me, since it implies that I'll be moving on shortly.  Probably true since I'm not really fitting in all that well, am I?  Sort of self fulfilling don't you think?

And by the way,  are my "talking points" ridiculous and beneath you contemplation or somehow just not easy.

.......................

I know (having just now checked out your website and a few none political posts) that I was right in my gut response to you as a person. (See first three words of this post)   I would probably like you. Maybe jam with you a bit if my banjo worked with an euphonium, but my posts were the best effort of somebody who feels just as strongly about what they perceive to be right and good, as anybody else here.  One thing that the Bush years did for me was make it clear that I had to stand up and protect that "rightness". I am also grateful to George W. Bush for making it possible for me to help elect someone I admire to lead the country.  I didn't think I would get to relax about who was president ever again, that the whole thing was going to hell in a hand basket (sound familiar).  It's not the politics but the man I admire.  Politics is a pretty lousy business. Political thinking is, in my mind, a form of brain damage.  I trust Barack Obama to do his best. And my sensibilities align closely with his. So, I defend him.

What I am addressing in my "ridiculous talking points" is dishonesty, unthinking rhetoric, lust for power, false religion, lack of compassion, self serving ideology, hegemony of the rich and powerful, racism, deliberate incitement to civil war, etc.   And I don't just mean the American versions of these (just to short circuit the love it or leave nonsense), it's a worldwide plague.

I'm sorry if you're bored but I've got work to do.

Wow. Your third post and you're already contemplative. Sounds fascinating. I'm so relieved you find me "okay." And if you're a banjo-picker (an axe I equate with "happy music"), that sounds even better.

You have all the marks of a troll - and that isn't terribly bad in and of itself because it does provide some entertainment value. But call me a hopeless, dyed-in-the-wool old-fashioned sort if you like, but I do believe in things called courtesy and treading softly where you haven't been before - it's the courteous thing to do, you see.

Trolls come in, ask provocative questions or throw out "issues" for discussion without even something as ridiculously simple as a short introduction. Then  they sit back and watch the results. I suppose that kind of thing is entertaining for trolls, but I find it manipulative - unnecessarily so.

As to your worship of Obama, wow. Hawkgirl said it best. How anybody can be so naive, so trusting, and so willing to exchange personal freedoms for the sake of such a clearly plastic "personality" completely baffles me. To me, Obama personifies everything that is negative about politicians and very little that is positive. I firmly believe that he is a socialist who is consumed with government expansion and erosion of personal freedoms. His recklessness and folly have not endeared him to anybody, save the Norwegians, perhaps, and even then we've read that only those who are rabid socialists approved of Obama in the joke now known as the Nobel Peace Prize.

Oh well. To each his own. I invite you to actually defend Obama. I'm pretty certain you'll get an earful.

But you'll have to do a little bit better than drive-by posting, which has been your MO to date.