Fines proposed for going without health insurance.

[Freeper]

An 18-page summary of the Baucus proposal was obtained by The Associated Press. The complex plan would make dozens of changes in the health care system, many of them contentious. For example, it includes new fees on insurers, drug companies, medical device manufacturers and clinical labs.

Hmmm so what they intend to do is make it more expensive for everyone. First make it mandatory then make the insurance companies, drug companies, etc pay the govt fees. The fees will be passed on to us the consumer. Maybe I am wearing tin foil here but sounds like they are trying to push costs up so that we will want a public option that costs less.

[Chump]

Hmmm so what they intend to do is make it more expensive for everyone. First make it mandatory then make the insurance companies, drug companies, etc pay the govt fees. The fees will be passed on to us the consumer. Maybe I am wearing tin foil here but sounds like they are trying to push costs up so that we will want a public option that costs less.

No tinfoil, friend.  Consider also, that nearly every financial officer of every business in the U.S. will make the logical conclusion that switching to the public option is in the company's best financial interests.

Call it what you will, but the logical outcome is a single-payer option, by default.

This must be our line in the sand, folks.  Of all the stupid things the Dems can do while in office, this one can't be "undone," per se, and it will destroy the best health care system in the world.  It firmly entrenches the government in every aspect of our private lives.  Beyond that, over half the country doesn't want it.  Passing this cluster**** of a bill will invite open hostilities, in my humble opinion.

[IassaFTots]

No tinfoil, friend.  Consider also, that nearly every financial officer of every business in the U.S. will make the logical conclusion that switching to the public option is in the company's best financial interests.

Call it what you will, but the logical outcome is a single-payer option, by default.

This must be our line in the sand, folks.  Of all the stupid things the Dems can do while in office, this one can't be "undone," per se, and it will destroy the best health care system in the world.  It firmly entrenches the government in every aspect of our private lives.  Beyond that, over half the country doesn't want it.  Passing this cluster**** of a bill will invite open hostilities, in my humble opinion.

Precisely my concern.  My CFO has already stated the exact same thing.  Why offer care if it is that expensive, and they can get it elsewhere for less. 

[DumbAss Tanker]

And even then, not all states mandate similar coverages or levels, or even require that good drivers even buy insurance.  The person holding the title to your vehicle will, but that's not the same as the state.

You can self-insure in many of them, as well, though it may involve posting one Hell of a bond to do it, and it is therefore a rarely-exercised option.  The states generally require 'Proof of financial responsibility,' which is NOT always necessarily insurance.

[BlueStateSaint]

No tinfoil, friend.  Consider also, that nearly every financial officer of every business in the U.S. will make the logical conclusion that switching to the public option is in the company's best financial interests.

Call it what you will, but the logical outcome is a single-payer option, by default.

This must be our line in the sand, folks.  Of all the stupid things the Dems can do while in office, this one can't be "undone," per se, and it will destroy the best health care system in the world.  It firmly entrenches the government in every aspect of our private lives.  Beyond that, over half the country doesn't want it.  Passing this cluster**** of a bill will invite open hostilities, in my humble opinion.

Couldn't agree more.  And, despite what the DUmb****s think, it will end horribly for them.