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So, last Thursday I took the abortion pill.
   
Life is funny.

I was happily pregnant, having morning sickness, taking naps at odd hours of the day, reading lists of baby names, even craving pickles.
Last Wednesday, my husband and I go in for my first ultrasound and, lo and behold, there was NO BABY!
Just some pitiful, empty gestational sac; the source of all my morning sickness symptoms and the numerous positive pregnancy test results.
Its called anembryonic gestation or "blighted ovum."
I had never heard of such a thing, but supposedly its very common and one of the main reasons women miscarry.
Usually, they miscarry before ever having an ultrasound so they never know there wasn't an embryo.

I was given three options.
1. Wait for a natural miscarriage. It could happen in three hours, three days, three weeks, even a month. In the middle of a yoga class, at a grocery store, on the bus, while teaching english to my class of refugees...you get the picture.
2. Have a surgical procedure.
3. Take the "abortion pill" and go through the miscarriage at home.

I chose the pill.

I am writing this to any pro-life/ conservative lurkers who believe that allowing women access to this pill will lead to its rampant overuse.
This was a truly MISERABLE, painful experience.
No way in hell would a woman go through that and then decide to run out and have indiscriminate, unprotected sex simply because they now have such an "easy" way out.
That is an absolute bullshit claim made by people who are either ignorant or who are willfully ignoring the truth.

Thanks to Pennsylvania's conservative abortion laws, getting the pills required jumping through a lot of hoops at an emotionally vulnerable time.
The doctor (DOCTOR!) I had been seeing during the pregnancy was not authorized to prescribe them and I was sent to another office in the basement of the hospital.
That doctor could only prescribe, but he told me it would be illegal for him to actually have the pills in his office.
He also mentioned that this hospital (Magee Womens Hospital of UPMC) was the ONLY hospital in all of NE Pennsylvania that was allowed to have the pills on site.
But, they couldn't be kept at the regular hospital pharmacy where I filled my prescriptions for antibiotics and the pain killers I would need.
Nope.
I had to go to the second floor, down a hall, behind the cafeteria to a small window that apparently only administered the "abortion pill."

The ultrasound technician couldn't tell me that there was no embryo, but she shouldn't be a poker player because it was immediately obvious.
So I was sent to my doctor who had the right to make the official diagnosis, but not the right to prescribe the pills.
Then to another doctor who did not have the right to make the official diagnosis, did have the right to prescribe the pills, but had no right to actually give them to me.
Then to an on-premises pharmacy that had the right to give me the Schedule III drug Vicodin, but had no right to give me the "abortion pill."
Then to another seemingly secret on-premises pharmacy that had the right to give me the "abortion pill."

Arguments against the use of this pill for abortion include this beauty: it causes pain, cramping and bleeding.
NO SHIT!
Its a miscarriage. That's what happens.
Then they go on to say that the pill is an "easy way out," so it will be abused by irresponsible people who want to have sex without consequences.
Without consequences?
What about all that pain, cramping and bleeding?

Because I had a medical reason, the pills were covered by my insurance.
A woman taking the pills for an abortion would be paying between 350 and 650 bucks.
Again, not such an "easy way out."

Now I know what taking the "abortion pill" (Mifepristone and Misoprostol) is like.
Yes, its painful.
I've never felt so much pain in my life, in fact.
The idea that women would do this over and over again just for the hell of it is ridiculous.
The difficulty in acquiring the pill seems designed to encourage women to just give up before jumping through all the necessary hoops, especially if she is embarrassed to be discussing the pregnancy with so many strangers.

It pisses me off that the pro-life agenda even affected someone like me who needed the pills for another reason altogether.
They weren't insurmountable odds, just random and silly obstacles.
I was lucky to be able to remain in the same building through this all so whenever I felt the need to start crying about the shocking news that there was NO BABY, I could find some lonely corridor to duck into for a few moments.
Another women who received such disappointing news in, say, Meadville, PA would not have access to these pills unless she drove two hours to my hospital.
That would be a very sad drive, indeed.

Thanks, pro-lifers!




EmilyAnne,

The typical response to a woman who has lost a baby to miscarriage is sympathy and sincere condolences. You, however, merit a different
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**** you, you stupid, insipid, bouncy story writing DUmbass bitch.

Had you been "happily pregnant" and lost your baby, you'd be distraught. You'd be heartbroken. You would have no recollection of which doctor had to do what. You wouldn't give a shit that, horror of horrors, you had to go to the basement of the hospital to get the pill. You're LYING.

In any case, you've swung and missed here. The "abortion pill," such as it is, is probably appropriate for cases in which the fetus is not viable and the pregnancy must be medically terminated. I know you'd like to believe that conservatives want for anything in your uterus to be naturally expelled from your body, but the sad and grim fact is that sometimes babies die before they're born. It's an imperfect world.

Your experience, or at least your novelization of an experience you wish you'd had, does nothing to dissuade conservatives from the notion that there are women who would, can, and do use abortion as birth control, and that hundreds of thousands of babies that could be born are killed by assholes such as yourself.

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2009, 04:55:21 PM »
Yeah, good chance it's a lie.

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It pisses me off that the pro-life agenda...

But that summarizes the crux of why she wrote it.  She wants women be able to kill their unborn child and have no one in society remind her doing so is immoral.  That's pretty much the summary of liberalism;  I want to do what I want to do and all visual and/or audible reminders that don't agree with me need to be removed from society.  Very selfish individuals.

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2009, 05:16:02 PM »
Ive done some poking around - I tend to think this is more of a stretchy than a bouncy - She announced here on 4/13 when she was pregnant.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8338586

thats a fairly long setup for a pro-choice bouncy.. Too long for the average primitive to pull off. I think she may have thought she was pregnant, and either lost the baby or suffered the condition exactly as described and used her circumstance as a political soap-box. The 3rd and most disgusting option was a conscious decision to abort and then she altered the story to match a political agenda-- but I really don't think this is the case.

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2009, 06:07:00 PM »
Ive done some poking around - I tend to think this is more of a stretchy than a bouncy - She announced here on 4/13 when she was pregnant.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8338586

thats a fairly long setup for a pro-choice bouncy.. Too long for the average primitive to pull off. I think she may have thought she was pregnant, and either lost the baby or suffered the condition exactly as described and used her circumstance as a political soap-box. The 3rd and most disgusting option was a conscious decision to abort and then she altered the story to match a political agenda-- but I really don't think this is the case.

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2009, 06:10:24 PM »
I can vouch for the fact that an empty gestational sac happens.  However, if she had avoided the "abortion pill," as my physician explained to me, the sac will cause your body to think you are pregnant and actually allow all that "indiscriminate, unprotected sex" she is so fixated on.
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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2009, 08:08:26 PM »
If I went through this experience I'd be devastated. I can't imagine after having a miscarriage (natural or otherwise) running to my favorite message board to type out a "pat me on the back, ain't I wonderful" screed. I might email a few friends and family who knew I was expecting and quietly tell them what happened but it would be a long time before I could write about it like I had just discovered the key to whiter whites. Besides, if my body will expel this phantom baby on its own why put it through the further trauma? One never knows how one will react to a medication one has never taken. And if she really wanted to get the message out to pro-life nuts (imagine that, thinking letting a BABY live is extreme) why preach to the choir? Of course, she's NOT really looking to teach anyone...she wants praise, a pedestal, grapes peeled, etc. Heartless bitch!

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2009, 08:12:29 PM »
I am surprised that Magee Women's Hospital doesn't hand them out like candy.  They are one of the biggest abortion providers around the Pittsburgh area.  I once had a book about abortion that showed a big black hefty bag full of nearly full term babies that had been dumped in the dumpster at Magee's. :bawl:  I wish I could find that book again.  Some of my biggest pro-life friends have gone to Magee to deliver.
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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2009, 09:28:07 PM »
If I went through this experience I'd be devastated. I can't imagine after having a miscarriage (natural or otherwise) running to my favorite message board to type out a "pat me on the back, ain't I wonderful" screed. I might email a few friends and family who knew I was expecting and quietly tell them what happened but it would be a long time before I could write about it like I had just discovered the key to whiter whites. Besides, if my body will expel this phantom baby on its own why put it through the further trauma? One never knows how one will react to a medication one has never taken. And if she really wanted to get the message out to pro-life nuts (imagine that, thinking letting a BABY live is extreme) why preach to the choir? Of course, she's NOT really looking to teach anyone...she wants praise, a pedestal, grapes peeled, etc. Heartless bitch!

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2009, 09:33:40 PM »
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(Magee Womens Hospital of UPMC) was the ONLY hospital in all of NE Pennsylvania

Magee Womens is in SW PA the P in UPMC stands for Pittsburgh.  I suppose it could be a typo.  Where does this woman live?

It's the kind of mistake people not familiar with PA make, placing things that are in Pittsburgh in Philly.  Actually Philly is in SE Pa, so I'm not sure what she's thinking.

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2009, 01:10:01 AM »
Her story has more holes then swiss cheese.

A miscarriage is taken as a great & very serious loss to families that are trying to have children, she mocks this to try and justify abortion. But in her case, it's not an abortion if there is no baby.

But she is a hero in DUmmie land.

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2009, 01:53:20 AM »
On second thought, she could just be feeling guilty and making up the story of the empty sac.

I think she had an abortion

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2009, 06:48:32 AM »
I think she's telling the truth about the pregnancy.  Her focus is entirely screwed up, however.  Cost and swift results seem to be her concerns.

My daughter went through this last year.  This was to have been my first grandchild.  For 3 months we were all excitedly planning, buying clothes.  When she went for an ultrasound, it may have been her second as she's having her first child quite late at 38, she was told the baby was dead. 

When she called me I literally fell to the floor.  My child had just lost her child and I could do nothing to protect her.  Her grief and devastation was heartrending.  Discussions of cost and swiftness of results were the very last things her mind could fathom.  She had surgery on Valentine's Day.

Happily, she will be delivering at the end of June.  Everything is going very well, but she will never forget her first baby.  She can only hold that child in her heart, but hold it she will and forever.

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2009, 09:22:40 AM »
I think she's telling the truth about the pregnancy.  Her focus is entirely screwed up, however.  Cost and swift results seem to be her concerns.

My daughter went through this last year.  This was to have been my first grandchild.  For 3 months we were all excitedly planning, buying clothes.  When she went for an ultrasound, it may have been her second as she's having her first child quite late at 38, she was told the baby was dead. 

When she called me I literally fell to the floor.  My child had just lost her child and I could do nothing to protect her.  Her grief and devastation was heartrending.  Discussions of cost and swiftness of results were the very last things her mind could fathom.  She had surgery on Valentine's Day.

Happily, she will be delivering at the end of June.  Everything is going very well, but she will never forget her first baby.  She can only hold that child in her heart, but hold it she will and forever.



     I think all ultra-liberal women find themselves in quite a pickle when they find they're pregnant and they have the slightest inkling that they want to keep it. They daren't call it a baby, because they of all people know that the life growing within them is nothing more than a clump of cells that isn't yet capable of having a BUSH LIED, KIDS DIED poster taped to its stroller during those protests that are always curiously close to a Starbucks. They're so wedded to their divine right to abortion* that their default position is to have one. That clump of cells that grows inside them had better start making with the cute kid stuff, and FAST, or Mommy's going to send the suction in there after them. That mindset is completely consistent with what the ghoulish DUmmy wrote, as she was utterly fixated on her own inconvenience and discomfort rather than the fact that she just lost a baby.




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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2009, 09:39:06 AM »
What a self-centered bitch!

There are all kinds of good reasons a pill that would abort a pregnancy (BEYOND the first couple of days, for which the 'Abortion pill' is supposedly targeted, when there is not nearly such a significant physical tribulation for the not-mother involved) would be kept under strict control and not within the same pharmacy as other meds.  The potential for accidental or intentional misuse is staggering, as would be the potential liability for the pharmacy, doctor, and hospital involved.     
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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2009, 10:44:40 AM »
Whiffleball, my best wishes to you, your daughter, and grandchild on the way.  If this woman really did go through this, and then ran breathlessly to the DU board to post, she has a heart of pure coal. 

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2009, 02:37:10 PM »
What a self-centered bitch!

There are all kinds of good reasons a pill that would abort a pregnancy (BEYOND the first couple of days, for which the 'Abortion pill' is supposedly targeted, when there is not nearly such a significant physical tribulation for the not-mother involved) would be kept under strict control and not within the same pharmacy as other meds.  The potential for accidental or intentional misuse is staggering, as would be the potential liability for the pharmacy, doctor, and hospital involved.     

Yes, any drug that can cause harm to an unborn child is full of extra rules that must be follwed before it can be dispensed.
From what I read on the internet about the 2 drugs she mentions, in the past it looks like drug #1 has to be administered at the clinic/doctor's office...a patient is not allowed to leave with the drug.

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2009, 05:06:45 PM »
Yes, any drug that can cause harm to an unborn child is full of extra rules that must be follwed before it can be dispensed.
From what I read on the internet about the 2 drugs she mentions, in the past it looks like drug #1 has to be administered at the clinic/doctor's office...a patient is not allowed to leave with the drug.

     Because just think what that drug could fetch on the open market.

     Imagine the scenario the DUmb bitch actually wants: the abortion pill falling out of magazines and in candy dishes at hostess stands in restaurants. Women would take them in an uncontrolled setting, without advice of a doctor and without proper followup, and then what happens?

     Exactly: women start dying, and the abortion pill is called a Rovian plot to kill pro-choicers.

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2009, 08:27:21 PM »
She rants and raves about the "pro-lifers" making it hard for her to get the anti-abortion pill, but correct me if I'm wrong, isn't PA's legislature under DIM control?
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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2009, 04:24:18 AM »


     I think all ultra-liberal women find themselves in quite a pickle when they find they're pregnant and they have the slightest inkling that they want to keep it.

This is what boggles my mind...how can they separate in their minds that one is a baby and one is a blob of tissue. That's way too much twisting in the wind for me. Besides, though it's rare there have been times when a blighted ovum has been misdiagnosed and there really IS a baby in there. Whether it's too soon to be seen by the ultrasound or the sac just grew faster than the baby, the time of conception was wrong, whatever.

Ultrasound wasn't common when I was pregnant but I can remember not hearing Jake's heartbeat when I was "supposed" to hear it. It was heartbreaking. The next time I went to the doctor his heartbeat was strong and steady. I just don't understand NOT erring on the side of saving your baby, regardless of how slim the chance. Until I discovered the DUmmies I never met a mother who wouldn't sacrifice her own life for that of her baby. At least the ones they throw away go back to the loving arms of God.

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2009, 06:12:12 AM »
This is the biggest crock of bullshit I have read in a very long time -- TOTAL BULLSHIT.    If she had an u/s this early in her pregnancy (and we are talking prior to 5 weeks, and well before any morning sickness would be making its rounds), she was most likely undergoing infertility tx (sorry, didn't read the entire rant).   Chemical pregnancies (which is what this is) happen all the time, and this is not anything you would refer to as a miscarriage as there was absolutely no embryonic development past the blastocyst stage.

She would not be given any medication, she would have a period -- not anything that would resemble a "miscarriage", and the only reason a D&C would be done is if this is a common occurence and the RE wants genetic testing done on the cells of of the empty sac. 

Rolling eyes into the back of my head.   She should be careful about the nonsense she is spewing here while undergoing IF tx, karma is lurking.

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2009, 06:16:43 AM »
Also note the RE would have suspected it was a chemical pregnancy from her b/w as the HCG levels would not have been doubling ever 2 days as is typical.    Once you have an initial pregnancy test you enter what is called "beta hell", and that is the watch of your HCG levels through your first u/s, which is typically done at 5 weeks when the heartbeat is detected.    You aren't picking out baby names as you are a complete nervous wreck.  Anyone who has lived through this treatment knows the risks, and equally understands that beta levels not rising appropriately is indicative of a chemical pregnancy. 

Been there.  Done that.   This lady needs a smack off the side of her head.

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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2009, 06:19:21 AM »
One last comments -- sorry on a rant here,   women who do not shed their uterine lining after a chemical pregnancy (we are talking months after it is determined), are given hormones to trigger their period.    This is not an "abortion" pill as there is no growing fetus. 


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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2009, 10:14:45 PM »
Uh, just want to mention, lurker, this same basic type of incident happened to me.  No fertility treatments or anything.  One exception to the OP's story, I had a positive pregnancy test at home, but it was not positive when I went to the Dr.   


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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2009, 06:04:12 PM »
Uh, just want to mention, lurker, this same basic type of incident happened to me.  No fertility treatments or anything.  One exception to the OP's story, I had a positive pregnancy test at home, but it was not positive when I went to the Dr.   




It's the u/s that makes me question whether she did treatment or not.   OB/GYNs usually do not do them in a regular pregnancy until you are 16 weeks in I think?     There is no way she made it to 16 weeks without the OB not knowing she had a nonviable pregnancy.   


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Re: Moron named EmilyAnne wants a medal for taking the abortion pill
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2009, 07:14:44 PM »
It's the u/s that makes me question whether she did treatment or not.   OB/GYNs usually do not do them in a regular pregnancy until you are 16 weeks in I think?     There is no way she made it to 16 weeks without the OB not knowing she had a nonviable pregnancy.   


In my case, I had a postive test at home, but the test was either negative or iffy at the clinic.  (I'm not sure which because Doc never exactly said, as I recall.)  He sent me in for an ultrasound almost right away.  Then he had me go back in about a month to check for growth.  There had been no growth in that month.

He explained to me that I could safely retain the sac, as is, and it would prevent me from getting pregnant and would not cause any danger of infection. 

Once I fully accepted the fact that the baby was dead, I think it was another 4 or 5 weeks, I went back and requested the medication.

(I had no trouble obtaining it, either.  One trip to Doc, one to the pharmacy.) 

So, anyway, some elements of the bouncy could be true. 
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