I like the way Obama Admin handled the Pirates thing.

[DumbAss Tanker]

5412, in the big national security picture, the fact that our enemies will figure this out is moderately worse than the fact that the MSM will try to keep the public from figuring it out; our people can always project the enemy's planning assumptions and take them into account in our own planning, after all.  The card castle will inevitably crash at some point in the next 3-1/2 years, resulting in some sort of military debacle, which may bring the public around somewhat but will undoubtedly also result in the Administration conducting a scapegoat-hunt in DOD to take the blame off themselves.  So, in the DOD microcosm, the fact that the public has no clue is really somewhat worse since it basically means a bunch of our own people are going to end up getting killed by the NCA's underlying incompetence at some point, and then the survivors or senior leaders involved will be crucified in the name of protecting the Obamites. 

[Lord Undies]

Is anyone else concerned about this like I am?  What this is to me is the tip of the iceberg and I worry for my children and grandchildren.

Extremely concerned on the surface, but I'm waiting for it to sink in.  This all seems pretty surreal right now.  My safe and secure American upbringing is at war with my gut instinct.  I know me and I know logic will prevail, but right now, I have no clue how to react in a meaningful and useful way.  I doubt that I am alone here.  It's going to take some time for folks to come to grips with the events unfolding before their very eyes.  Some longer than others.  Me, not long at all.    

[NateRiver]

Did anyone notice that the ball was first placed in Hillary's ballpark and after a few days of dead silence CinC took over. Could it be that everyone is blaming the pirate problem in the area on the no-government in Somalia and who is responsible for that?

[5412]

Extremely concerned on the surface, but I'm waiting for it to sink in.  This all seems pretty surreal right now.  My safe and secure American upbringing is at war with my gut instinct.  I know me and I know logic will prevail, but right now, I have no clue how to react in a meaningful and useful way.  I doubt that I am alone here.  It's going to take some time for folks to come to grips with the events unfolding before their very eyes.  Some longer than others.  Me, not long at all.    

Hi Lord,

I would be embarrassed to tell you the lengths my wife and I have gone to prepare.  Needless to say we are well armed because it could get pretty ugly.  In addition we also bought water purification tablets and a water purification kit.....something we should have had long ago.  We live in a hurricane area most of the year and they normally tell you to have at least 30 days supply worth of food.  What we do is when we get back here in the fall, stock up really good, lots of canned goods, etc., then by the grace of God we have not seen fit to have to dig in to the emergency supply, we take it and donate it to the food bank.

I have come to the conclusion that one can only prepare to help himself and his family survive, the government is not capable of protecting us all.  I am fortunate that my wife is equally as concerned, she now goes to the gun range with me more frequently and i have no fear about her protecting herself if it came down to that.

In the meantime, so far the only other option I can think of is to continually write congress, scream, do whatever so things can hopefully get back on an even keel.

It is very uncomfortable for a lot of us emotionally I suspect.  Something gnaws at my gut that says things just are not right.

Thanks for the response,

5412

[rich_t]

5412, in the big national security picture, the fact that our enemies will figure this out is moderately worse than the fact that the MSM will try to keep the public from figuring it out; our people can always project the enemy's planning assumptions and take them into account in our own planning, after all.  The card castle will inevitably crash at some point in the next 3-1/2 years, resulting in some sort of military debacle, which may bring the public around somewhat but will undoubtedly also result in the Administration conducting a scapegoat-hunt in DOD to take the blame off themselves.  So, in the DOD microcosm, the fact that the public has no clue is really somewhat worse since it basically means a bunch of our own people are going to end up getting killed by the NCA's underlying incompetence at some point, and then the survivors or senior leaders involved will be crucified in the name of protecting the Obamites. 

Sort of a Blackhawk Down scenario?

[5412]

Sort of a Blackhawk Down scenario?

Hi Rich,

I used to live in Pensacola and when we saw what happened after Katrina it really concerned us.  We had lived not that far away and survived a number of hurricanes.  It was just a matter of hours before one would have declared martial law and the first thing the stupid mayor did was confiscate the guns so the law abiding citizens could not defent themselves. 

In my mind's eye, should something happen here in this country, I fear that scene might be repeated in dozens of locations all across the country.  Just ask yourself a few questions.  What would we do if our water supply was contaminated?  What would we do if the food supply got interrupted?  What would we do if we lost power and there was no expectation of it being restored in short order?

When you are done with those, you realize there are things you can do to at least batten down the hatches and hopefully protect yourself and your family.

I am a believer that it is better to have an contingency plan, well thought out in a folder, and never have to open the folder, than to have no plan at all.

regards,
5412

[rich_t]

Hi Rich,

I used to live in Pensacola and when we saw what happened after Katrina it really concerned us.  We had lived not that far away and survived a number of hurricanes.  It was just a matter of hours before one would have declared martial law and the first thing the stupid mayor did was confiscate the guns so the law abiding citizens could not defent themselves. 

In my mind's eye, should something happen here in this country, I fear that scene might be repeated in dozens of locations all across the country.  Just ask yourself a few questions.  What would we do if our water supply was contaminated?  What would we do if the food supply got interrupted?  What would we do if we lost power and there was no expectation of it being restored in short order?

When you are done with those, you realize there are things you can do to at least batten down the hatches and hopefully protect yourself and your family.

I am a believer that it is better to have an contingency plan, well thought out in a folder, and never have to open the folder, than to have no plan at all.

regards,
5412

Good evening 5412.

I have 6 days of food and water in the trunk of each car.  I also have water purification tablets, 1st aid kit, entrenching tool, thermal blankets, survival knifes, fire starting kit, induction flash light and hand crank radio in each car.

The house is equipped along these same lines but with additional food and water storage.

I have a plan.  I also have the resources and arms to survive a prolonged loss of "government" provided services.

I also have a *GOOD location to fall back to if the interuption of services exceeds 30 days.


*Get Out Of Dodge

I have spent the best part of the last decade planning on it.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Sort of a Blackhawk Down scenario?

Something on that order...or a Desert One.  Those events were unique to the times, but a dithering CINC with unclear and mutable policy positions can easily create his own new flavor of fiasco.

[Konssurvative1]

"Mr President, Mr President! Terrorists have taken one of our ships and are threatening to kill the Capt. and crew, what do we do, sir??"

Obama: "Present".

[Konssurvative1]

Did anyone notice that the ball was first placed in Hillary's ballpark and after a few days of dead silence CinC took over. Could it be that everyone is blaming the pirate problem in the area on the no-government in Somalia and who is responsible for that?

That is part of the problem...whom in somalia do we hold accountble?  There is no government only war lords...This is what It would be like if street gangs ever decided to take over in a way that they are capable...They only want to have their turf and sell their drugs...but in every big, medium and small city in this country the gangs could out war the police departments in one day...But they don't want that...they just want to sell their drugs and make money.  They don't want to be bothered.   In Somalia the gangs and warlords...they are fighting for survival and for control of their area...They are no government they rule with violence...So how do we negotiate or open talks with them...to do so is to legitimize thuggery...which in it's most basic form, isn't that the bush doctrine...

[Konssurvative1]

Good evening 5412.

I have 6 days of food and water in the trunk of each car.  I also have water purification tablets, 1st aid kit, entrenching tool, thermal blankets, survival knifes, fire starting kit, induction flash light and hand crank radio in each car.

The house is equipped along these same lines but with additional food and water storage.

I have a plan.  I also have the resources and arms to survive a prolonged loss of "government" provided services.

I also have a *GOOD location to fall back to if the interuption of services exceeds 30 days.


*Get Out Of Dodge

I have spent the best part of the last decade planning on it.

I live south east of Chicago...in Indiana...I have always worried about a nuclear attack or dirty bomb...If that happens...my plan is to get out of dodge...Prevailing winds blows most fallout over lake Michigan...but the bomb would be most effective if it was detonated on south side more populace area...many of Chicagos homes are there.  My plan is to drive like a bat out of hell South to and then once I am far enough south to then go west and then north...got a cabin in the North woods...could hold up there for months!!!