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Offline Schadenfreude

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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2009, 08:36:54 PM »
Quote from: BEG on April 08, 2009, 08:33:20 PM
I was watching Glenn Beck earlier and someone said on his show that they can't shoot at someone who is BOARDING the ship unless they are fired upon first.  WTF is wrong with our government? 

The $10000 question!
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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2009, 08:48:29 PM »
Quote from: BEG on April 08, 2009, 08:33:20 PM
I was watching Glenn Beck earlier and someone said on his show that they can't shoot at someone who is BOARDING the ship unless they are fired upon first.  WTF is wrong with our government?  
We have a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER for pres.....next question.....
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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2009, 09:17:38 PM »
Quote from: Chris on April 08, 2009, 08:12:07 PM
The US Navy has a guided missle cruiser on the scene, per Larry King's giant head.

Fox confirms the Giant Head  :naughty:

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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #53 on: April 08, 2009, 09:45:20 PM »
This has come up before. As sad as it may sound . No commercial ships are allowed to be armed with any small arms. It's international treaty signed by just about every member of.........The U.N.
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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #54 on: April 08, 2009, 10:17:42 PM »
Quote from: Airwolf on April 08, 2009, 09:45:20 PM
This has come up before. As sad as it may sound . No commercial ships are allowed to be armed with any small arms. It's international treaty signed by just about every member of.........The U.N.

C'mon peeps let's be creative. Better yet let's reach back into the age of gladiators to get some real nice weaponry.  :naughty:

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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #55 on: April 08, 2009, 10:18:15 PM »
Methinks the pitchfork is my weapon of choice.  :evillaugh:
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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #56 on: April 08, 2009, 10:22:23 PM »
Quote from: Schadenfreude on April 08, 2009, 10:18:15 PM
Methinks the pitchfork is my weapon of choice.  :evillaugh:

I think it's called a trident.  :tongue:
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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #57 on: April 08, 2009, 10:25:43 PM »
Do crossbows count?

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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #58 on: April 09, 2009, 05:15:11 AM »
Negotiations:

"If you let the captain go, we will allow one of you to live, so that you can tell your lice-infested friends to never bother a US ship ever again."
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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #59 on: April 09, 2009, 06:07:07 AM »
I didn't think the U.S. negotiated with terrorists. :popcorn:
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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #60 on: April 09, 2009, 06:21:21 AM »
A SEAL team with night scopes, orders to take no prisoners. Thats the message we need to give these scum. Of course the messiah would never order such an attrocity! Hell, he's probably already thinking of the punishment the crew should get for retaking their ship.
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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #61 on: April 09, 2009, 06:51:13 AM »
Scuba divers with spear guns, under the lifeboat, could give the pirates their annual rectal exams.
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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #62 on: April 09, 2009, 07:02:12 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on April 08, 2009, 10:22:23 PM
I think it's called a trident.  :tongue:

Of course it is, I was just testing to see if you knew.  :p
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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #63 on: April 09, 2009, 08:38:55 AM »
I was thinkin about this while at work last night.

Remember how Blackwater lost it's security contract in Iraq?

Why hasn't the big boss over at Blackwater contacted the various shipping magnates and offer to provide on-board security for every ship which transits those waters?

Blackwater could form a 15-member security force split into two teams to operate in 12-hour shifts.  Each team would have one M-60 and two SAW teams, three riflemen armed with M-16s with grenade launchers, and have an adequate stock of LAWs launchers to take on larger boats and a number of Stingers in case the pirates have managed to obtain helos.

ROE would be simple - if a small boat, like those used by pirates, motors to within 1500 yards of the cargo ship, the entire security force is called to stations.  When the boat gets to within 500 yards one M-60 gunner would fire a warning burst.  When the small boat IGNORES the warning and reaches 250 yards from the cargo ship, the entire force opens fire with the intent to destroy the boat and its occupants.
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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #64 on: April 09, 2009, 08:52:46 AM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on April 08, 2009, 05:51:14 PM
And that all the 16" guns I'm aware of are filled with concrete.

Damnit!

If ever there was a time to bring the New Jersey and the Iowa out of mothballs...NOW is the time and this is the perfect venue for them.


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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #65 on: April 09, 2009, 09:28:53 AM »
Quote from: Bluesuiter-Retired on April 09, 2009, 08:38:55 AM
I was thinkin about this while at work last night.

Remember how Blackwater lost it's security contract in Iraq?

Why hasn't the big boss over at Blackwater contacted the various shipping magnates and offer to provide on-board security for every ship which transits those waters?

Blackwater could form a 15-member security force split into two teams to operate in 12-hour shifts.  Each team would have one M-60 and two SAW teams, three riflemen armed with M-16s with grenade launchers, and have an adequate stock of LAWs launchers to take on larger boats and a number of Stingers in case the pirates have managed to obtain helos.

ROE would be simple - if a small boat, like those used by pirates, motors to within 1500 yards of the cargo ship, the entire security force is called to stations.  When the boat gets to within 500 yards one M-60 gunner would fire a warning burst.  When the small boat IGNORES the warning and reaches 250 yards from the cargo ship, the entire force opens fire with the intent to destroy the boat and its occupants.


Yes, the Libs would have a field day with that.
They would have the Companies, crews, and security teams, in the world court for War Crimes. :hammer:
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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #66 on: April 09, 2009, 03:18:15 PM »
Aren't ship captains in international waters given wide latitude to protect their ship?
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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #67 on: April 09, 2009, 03:20:34 PM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on April 09, 2009, 06:07:07 AM
I didn't think the U.S. negotiated with terrorists. :popcorn:

I was thinking the negotiation should consist of making one large hole in the hull of the lifeboat below the waterline, and telling them if they don't harm the hostage, we'll pull them all out of the water to be tried for piracy.  Harm him, or refuse to come onboard, and they are free to swim home.
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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #68 on: April 09, 2009, 03:25:38 PM »
One of the problems with bringing back the BB's is lack of skilled personnel. When they where brought out last time, they had to ask for volunteer GM's who where retired to come back in to man the 16in.  Tooling for parts is also an issue. As far as a deterrent, they couldn't work inshore like a frigate or destroyer can. With the current Administration, they wouldn't be able to do what they do best. Pound the shit out of shore installations.
With Obama planning to cut the new littoral destroyer, and possibly new carrier construction, I doubt he'd consider the cost to refurbish the BB's.
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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #69 on: April 09, 2009, 04:31:58 PM »
They would swim back if they saw this coming at them.

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Re: Somali Pirates Hijack Cargo Ship With An All American Crew
« Reply #70 on: April 09, 2009, 07:23:55 PM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on April 09, 2009, 06:07:07 AM
I didn't think the U.S. negotiated with terrorists. :popcorn:

That changed when Obama was "sworn" in back in Jan.
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