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Re: US may cede to Iran's enrichment
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2009, 11:45:40 AM »
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5980794.ece


Heard John Bolton talking about this on the Bauer and Rose show this morning.


Mr. Bolton believes it was a test run for Iran since the distances according to him were about the same as it would be to Iran.
Good endurance and navigational training for the pilots. Still, I'm curious what Joo-Voo-Doo they will use to skirt Iranian air defenses.
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Re: US may cede to Iran's enrichment
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2009, 12:01:52 PM »
The Syrian reactor came from North Korea.
About a year ago I read a defense article about Israeli jets having their range extending to 1000+ miles (perhaps as much as 1400). Also the Israelis have trained for routes that would take them through southern Turkey into northern Iran for some of the more distant sites.

http://www.f-16.net/news_article1002.html

Oh, that one--we were talking about Iran and the logistics involved.  Bit of difference between the attack you speak of and Osirisk and any possible attack on Iranian nukes.

Good luck getting the Turks to agree to that one.
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Re: US may cede to Iran's enrichment
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2009, 12:07:22 PM »
Oh, that one--we were talking about Iran and the logistics involved.  Bit of difference between the attack you speak of and Osirisk and any possible attack on Iranian nukes.

Good luck getting the Turks to agree to that one.
As I mentioned: the Arabs might turn a blind eye and offer only token condemnations after the fact. I would imagine the Turks with their EU ties--which include pro-ABM nations such as Poland--might be slightly blinder. That, and mountains make for good hiding/plausible deniability; more so than deserts and seas.
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Re: US may cede to Iran's enrichment
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2009, 12:24:08 PM »
Good endurance and navigational training for the pilots. Still, I'm curious what Joo-Voo-Doo they will use to skirt Iranian air defenses.

The Iranians built the Syrian air defense network.

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Re: US may cede to Iran's enrichment
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2009, 12:27:07 PM »
The Iranians built the Syrian air defense network.

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So what you're saying is: if a pilot unwraps a stick of "Jew"cy-Fruit gum and throws the foil wrapper out the window the entire Iranian AD system will short-out?
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Re: US may cede to Iran's enrichment
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2009, 12:36:29 PM »
So what you're saying is: if a pilot unwraps a stick of "Jew"cy-Fruit gum and throws the foil wrapper out the window the entire Iranian AD system will short-out?

Pretty much.  The Syrians didn't know what hit them.  They had this supposedly impenetrable AD system and if memory serves never picked up the Israeli aircraft either inbound or outbound.
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Re: US may cede to Iran's enrichment
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2009, 01:38:19 PM »
The joooooooz did a pretty good job getting across hostile Syrian airspace to take out the North Korean reactor. While detection capabilities have improved dramatically so have counter-detection capabilities.

A MUCH shorter trip; the IDF can strike into Syria pretty much at will, the planes are damned near on the target approach when they cross the border over the Golan.  It's pretty much too late for the Syrians to react effectively to an airstrike at the point it leave Israeli airspace.  Not like the Syrians know what they're doing versus the Israeli AF anyway, they are pretty much the IDF's bitches in air combat. 

But the Israelis would not have as many advantages in attacking Iran, the ECM/counter-ECM gear that has foxed the Syrians so many times is that much additional non-fuel, non-payload weight to lug on the long, circuitous trip to Iran.  They may even regard it as too sensitive to risk on a long-distance mission.  Being that the Iranians are psycho paranoids, I would not be surprised at all to find out that they had gotten some 'special friends' from the north and the far east to help lay on extraordinary precautions against an Israeli airstrike, which is the biggest foreseeable risk to their project. 

One thing the Israelis will be taking into account in deciding what to do is the consequence of failure.  A lot of their strength depends on reputation, and if they go with this and it ends in a debacle, it will aggravate their problems rather than solving anything.   
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Re: US may cede to Iran's enrichment
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2009, 01:45:36 PM »
Also a good point, but consider this:

In 2003, the Iraqis were given several units by the Russians which would supposedly jam the GPS units on our guided weapons.

The result: The weapons targeted the "jammers".

LINK

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