Sex Appeal May Have Hurt Sarah Palin

[Ptarmigan]

Hi,

Some might have voted for him because he was black????   Only something like 94% of the black population.  What was the quote going around from MLK, "I look foreword to the day that a man is not judged by the color of his skin.  Seems to me that is exactly what the blacks did.

I really got pissed off when Colin Powell said how esctatic he was, "We finally made it!".  Yes Mr. Powell, you got a black guy elected who never held a job other than a community orgainzer, had the most liberal voting record in the senate, even worse than Kennedy, and was totally unqualified......but indeed be proud because he is black.  Yes General Powell he is your totally unqualified commander in chief, just pissed away a trillion dollars or pork projects but cut the pentagon budget by 10% and is putting the safety and security of the nation at risk.  I am sure you are quite proud sir......

It looks to me that the very few white folks took skin color into their decision, but racism is still alive and well in the black population.  Seems to me that BO is one of them and he is acting like it is payback time......

Sorry for the rant, that just struck a chord with me.

regards,
5412

Well said! As it turns out, Barack Obama is actually the seventh Black president in America. The previous six are:
1.) Thomas Jefferson
2.) Andrew Jackson
3.) Abraham Lincoln
4.) Warren G. Harding
5.) Calvin Coolidge
6.) Dwight Eisenhower

The public was very enthusiastic when Eisenhower was elected in 1952. In the 1920 Election, Blacks were encouraged to vote for Harding. Also, people were excited about Harding as well because he was born after the Civil War and was considered good looking, he had the "movie star" look at the time.

[5412]

Hi,

You make a good point.  I would like to draw your attention to one thing however.  Look at the list and all the others were elected before LBJ began with his great society.  The entitlement mentality really was turbocharged when he incentivized out of wedlock birth, it destroyed the black family, and set up several generations of people who totally expect that the government should give them money just because they are black. 

One of the many newsletters I get talked about how children of unwed mothers, particularly those on welfare never have a chance in life.  So few ever get out of the lowest poverty level.  First of all their mother bore them because SHE gets more money from the government.  Who the hell is their role model?  Rap singers and drug dealers????  Maybe some of the thugs in the NBA who fell asleep at the tattoo parlor?  The article I read pointed out that in the inner cities that more than 50% of the students drop out of high school and the government needs to do something about that....throw more entitlement money into the pot.  They are right, the government should do something, fix the cause and stop incentivizing out of wedlock birth.

Jeramiah Wright is correct when he says it is the evil, rich, greedy white man who has enslaved the blacks.  Where he is blind is this.  It is the democrat party who pay them just enough so they do not get off their ass and get a job.....instead they stay home, and vote democratic so they can keep getting their handouts.  It is further cemented with guys like Jesse Jackson, Wright and other who preach and spew such hatred, for their personal gain.  The democrat party keeps them economically enslaved on the government teat, and as long as that continues Rev. Wright, Jesse and others can make a fine living preaching their hatred.  Well hell that is the environment BO was in for 20+ years.  While he denied it, he was not asleep in church.......he heard that message drummed into his head most all his life.

You folks are probably too young to remember a comedienne named Flip Wilson.  One of his characters was named Geraldene and she was married to a preacher.  Well she goes out and gets a new dress and her husband keeps asking her why.....and the response was, "the devil made me do it!"  The preacher keeps pressing her until she is so frustrated she blurts out, "If it wasn't for the devil, you'd be out of a job!"

Someone asked Jackson, now that BO is elected our racial problems are solved right?  Boy did he jump on that one, "Oh no, we still have a long way to go."  Hell if he admitted to the fact that white folks, for the most part accept blacks and they have equal opportunity....he'd be out of a job.....which isn't such a bad idea.

Well this black president grew up in that environment.  I really think we have elected a smooth talking Rev. Wright, he is hell-bent on righting what he percieves to be all the evils that have been petpuated on his people over the years.

Yet when guys like Bill Cosby scold them about blowing one of the greatest chances in American history he is chastised.  When Clarence Thomas is appointed to the Supreme Court, he is chastised.  Any black person (other than entertainers and athletes) who works his/her tail off and made something of their lives are chastised unless they are democrats.

What is my point?  Unlike any president before him, black or white, this guy is really unqualified, has a chip on his shoulder, and his primary goal is redistribution of wealth.  Wait until they get done with health care and he starts on the idea of reparation for descendents of slaves.....

Stay tuned folks, it ain't gonna get any better until 2011.  By 2012 Mrs. Palin will be looking mighty fine to a whole lot of folks who voted democratic in the last election.....

regards,
5412

[5412]

Semper Fi.

It's always nice to converse with a fellow veteran.  I really enjoy reading your posts.

Hi Rich,

While I enlisted, a war veteran I am not.  In retrospect I was very lucky.  I was too young for Korea and I enlisted in the reserves while I was in high school.  It was a way to serve your country and was not done to avoid the draft like some did in Vietnam.  I did my active duty, they regularly went to the meetings and summer camps until I was 25 years old.  In those days you took your two week vacation and went off to the military.  I came very close to being called up in the Kennedy missle crisis and would have gladly served at that time. 

Conversely, I had my honorable discharge before Vietnam really got going......although we were losing people over there in 1959, just most folks did not know it.

Remember the old book, "Everything I needed to know about life, I learned in kindegarden"?  Well for me I would have to say "Everything I needed to know about life I learned in the Marine Corps".  Let's just say I did not grow up in the best family environment and when I got out of high school I was beyond confused.  Boy once I got to PI, my life changed dramatically, and for the good I might add.

Did anyone see Glenn Beck tonight when he talked about the American Dream.  He said in America the real dream is you can start out with nothing and make something of yourself.  Most of the wealthy people in America today are folks that started their own business, worked their ass off and accumulated some money.  Well he was talking about me.  I started from nothing, then started over with nothing at 46 years old again.  Now the fact I worked 60-80 hours a week probably helped but those opportunities are there for everyone.  We had our high school 50th class reunion last summer.  The guy who was voted "most likely to succeed did not show up."  Last time I saw him he was 55 years old, driving a rusted out car and got pissed because I would not lend him $800.  I held an open house in my "summer home" just outside the country club owned by the guy who probably graduated 148th in a class of 150.  I am not joking when I tell you one of classmates was a farmer who bought a dump truck when he got out of high school.  He is now a billionaire (with a b), has a home next to Bill Gates in Palm Springs, but he is the same guy we all knew in high school.

Here is the punch line.  Anyone who has been in the Marine Corps knows where the drive came from for me anyway.  Anyone from that background knows pretty much right from wrong.  I was just damn lucky that my life turned out the way it did, the Marine Corps took a screwed up 17 year old kid and showed him the way.  On a personal note, I am one who believes they never should have discontinued the draft.  Forget the military purpose for a moment, there were thousands of guys like me that were going nowhere that got drafted in the army, came back a few years later a much different person with a decent set of values and work ethic.  It is a shame that young people today are not afforded those opportunities.

And finally, if something ever happened to my wife, I would honestly try to enlist back in the Marine Corps.  Oh I am 40 pounds overweight, can't run worth a damn, can shoot pretty good, but there is lots of jobs I could do that would free up a younger person for a more important assignment.  I would do that for nothing.....

regards,
5412

[Wineslob]

Complete BS. McCain tanked the whole thing. Besides, having ALL the media trashing her every day, diden't help...............did it?

[Attero Dominatus]

Wineslob is right. It was a combination of McShame's half-assed campaign and the smear attacks against her.

[Ptarmigan]

Hi,

You make a good point.  I would like to draw your attention to one thing however.  Look at the list and all the others were elected before LBJ began with his great society.  The entitlement mentality really was turbocharged when he incentivized out of wedlock birth, it destroyed the black family, and set up several generations of people who totally expect that the government should give them money just because they are black. 

One of the many newsletters I get talked about how children of unwed mothers, particularly those on welfare never have a chance in life.  So few ever get out of the lowest poverty level.  First of all their mother bore them because SHE gets more money from the government.  Who the hell is their role model?  Rap singers and drug dealers????  Maybe some of the thugs in the NBA who fell asleep at the tattoo parlor?  The article I read pointed out that in the inner cities that more than 50% of the students drop out of high school and the government needs to do something about that....throw more entitlement money into the pot.  They are right, the government should do something, fix the cause and stop incentivizing out of wedlock birth.

Jeramiah Wright is correct when he says it is the evil, rich, greedy white man who has enslaved the blacks.  Where he is blind is this.  It is the democrat party who pay them just enough so they do not get off their ass and get a job.....instead they stay home, and vote democratic so they can keep getting their handouts.  It is further cemented with guys like Jesse Jackson, Wright and other who preach and spew such hatred, for their personal gain.  The democrat party keeps them economically enslaved on the government teat, and as long as that continues Rev. Wright, Jesse and others can make a fine living preaching their hatred.  Well hell that is the environment BO was in for 20+ years.  While he denied it, he was not asleep in church.......he heard that message drummed into his head most all his life.

You folks are probably too young to remember a comedienne named Flip Wilson.  One of his characters was named Geraldene and she was married to a preacher.  Well she goes out and gets a new dress and her husband keeps asking her why.....and the response was, "the devil made me do it!"  The preacher keeps pressing her until she is so frustrated she blurts out, "If it wasn't for the devil, you'd be out of a job!"

Someone asked Jackson, now that BO is elected our racial problems are solved right?  Boy did he jump on that one, "Oh no, we still have a long way to go."  Hell if he admitted to the fact that white folks, for the most part accept blacks and they have equal opportunity....he'd be out of a job.....which isn't such a bad idea.

Well this black president grew up in that environment.  I really think we have elected a smooth talking Rev. Wright, he is hell-bent on righting what he percieves to be all the evils that have been petpuated on his people over the years.

Yet when guys like Bill Cosby scold them about blowing one of the greatest chances in American history he is chastised.  When Clarence Thomas is appointed to the Supreme Court, he is chastised.  Any black person (other than entertainers and athletes) who works his/her tail off and made something of their lives are chastised unless they are democrats.

What is my point?  Unlike any president before him, black or white, this guy is really unqualified, has a chip on his shoulder, and his primary goal is redistribution of wealth.  Wait until they get done with health care and he starts on the idea of reparation for descendents of slaves.....

Stay tuned folks, it ain't gonna get any better until 2011.  By 2012 Mrs. Palin will be looking mighty fine to a whole lot of folks who voted democratic in the last election.....

regards,
5412

Yes, you are right my friend. They were all elected before LBJ. Before the Great Society, crime rate and illegitimate births were much lower among Blacks. Blacks had strong families. Yeah, I was a kid when Clarence Thomas was being appointed and it was a farce. I was pissed about it and still am because it brought sexual harassment to the forefront.

[5412]

Yes, you are right my friend. They were all elected before LBJ. Before the Great Society, crime rate and illegitimate births were much lower among Blacks. Blacks had strong families. Yeah, I was a kid when Clarence Thomas was being appointed and it was a farce. I was pissed about it and still am because it brought sexual harassment to the forefront.

Hi,

The biggest farce in the Clarence Thomas appointment was the group of democrat senators on the judiciary committee discussing ethics.  I know Biden and Kennedy were two of them, but all on the committee were tainted with ethics issues beyond belief and they were sitting on their pompous butts taking cheap shots at Thomas.

Of course the old saying holds true, "Things that don't change, remain the same."


regards,
5412

[Bluesuiter-Retired]

Liberals are just jealous

Has anyone ever seen an attractice female dem/lib?

EXAMPLES --- Nancy Pelosi, Hitlery Clinton

[Lacarnut]

You folks are probably too young to remember a comedienne named Flip Wilson.  One of his characters was named Geraldene and she was married to a preacher.  Well she goes out and gets a new dress and her husband keeps asking her why.....and the response was, "the devil made me do it!"  The preacher keeps pressing her until she is so frustrated she blurts out, "If it wasn't for the devil, you'd be out of a job!"

Someone asked Jackson, now that BO is elected our racial problems are solved right?  Boy did he jump on that one, "Oh no, we still have a long way to go."  Hell if he admitted to the fact that white folks, for the most part accept blacks and they have equal opportunity....he'd be out of a job.....which isn't such a bad idea.

Well this black president grew up in that environment.  I really think we have elected a smooth talking Rev. Wright, he is hell-bent on righting what he percieves to be all the evils that have been petpuated on his people over the years.

Yet when guys like Bill Cosby scold them about blowing one of the greatest chances in American history he is chastised.  When Clarence Thomas is appointed to the Supreme Court, he is chastised.  Any black person (other than entertainers and athletes) who works his/her tail off and made something of their lives are chastised unless they are democrats.

What is my point?  Unlike any president before him, black or white, this guy is really unqualified, has a chip on his shoulder, and his primary goal is redistribution of wealth.  Wait until they get done with health care and he starts on the idea of reparation for descendents of slaves.....

Stay tuned folks, it ain't gonna get any better until 2011.  By 2012 Mrs. Palin will be looking mighty fine to a whole lot of folks who voted democratic in the last election.....

regards,
5412

I enjoy your eloquent posts. Like you, I am older than dirt who served in the service between Korea and V.N. Point being is that many of those that voted for Obama are too young to have experienced the hard times during the Carter years where jobs were hard to find, the economy was in the tank, home mortgage rates were at 17%, long gas lines and people felt crappy about themselves and their government. Even though things are bad at the present time, I don't think they are as bad as those malaise days of the late 70's and early 80's.

66% of the 18 to 29 age group voted for Obama. That accounted for almost 20% of the total votes in the presidential election. If the decline of jobs continues, many of those will either lose their jobs or will not be able to find a job when they graduate. However, that may be Obama's plan. Increase unemployment so that the government will take care of you or go on the government payroll. If you want a job, the locals, states and feds are hiring like crazy. Pretty soon we will not produce anything and there will be more people working for government than in the private sector. This could be Obama's and the liberals plan to enact a socialistic/commie regime in the USA. On the other hand, many of these younguns may not be too happy with not being able to find a job or working for government at a lower salary. So with higher taxes, fewer jobs and being saddled with debt, it might be that those younuns will vote with their wallet the next time around.

[5412]

I enjoy your eloquent posts. Like you, I am older than dirt who served in the service between Korea and V.N. Point being is that many of those that voted for Obama are too young to have experienced the hard times during the Carter years where jobs were hard to find, the economy was in the tank, home mortgage rates were at 17%, long gas lines and people felt crappy about themselves and their government. Even though things are bad at the present time, I don't think they are as bad as those malaise days of the late 70's and early 80's.

66% of the 18 to 29 age group voted for Obama. That accounted for almost 20% of the total votes in the presidential election. If the decline of jobs continues, many of those will either lose their jobs or will not be able to find a job when they graduate. However, that may be Obama's plan. Increase unemployment so that the government will take care of you or go on the government payroll. If you want a job, the locals, states and feds are hiring like crazy. Pretty soon we will not produce anything and there will be more people working for government than in the private sector. This could be Obama's and the liberals plan to enact a socialistic/commie regime in the USA. On the other hand, many of these younguns may not be too happy with not being able to find a job or working for government at a lower salary. So with higher taxes, fewer jobs and being saddled with debt, it might be that those younuns will vote with their wallet the next time around.

Good Morning,

Greetings from Phoenix, here for two weeks.

Didn't Hitler have a great appeal to the youth??  I think you make a good point about the young folks.  I am afraid you might be right.  The thing the young folks do not get is this.  If BO continues on his present path, we will be at war.. 

BO will get rid of us by taking away our health care.  When they look at "cost effectiveness" health care for seniors is it pretty simple.  Take the cost of the care and either add the taxes they pay and subtract that from the cost.....or add the social security they get and add it to the cost of the care and then make your "cost effective" government decision.

Don't treat the seniors and you get one more person off social security so you can take that money and reward the disadvantaged who have never paid any taxes...if you get my drift.

regards,
5412

regards,
5412

[docstew]

to add to 5412's point, after the "cost effective" decision, there will be a higher percentage of the electorate being "the youth vote", because those decisions will remove another member of a consistently conservative voting block.

[Lacarnut]

Good Morning,

Greetings from Phoenix, here for two weeks.

Didn't Hitler have a great appeal to the youth??  I think you make a good point about the young folks.  I am afraid you might be right.  The thing the young folks do not get is this.  If BO continues on his present path, we will be at war.. 

BO will get rid of us by taking away our health care.  When they look at "cost effectiveness" health care for seniors is it pretty simple.  Take the cost of the care and either add the taxes they pay and subtract that from the cost.....or add the social security they get and add it to the cost of the care and then make your "cost effective" government decision.

Don't treat the seniors and you get one more person off social security so you can take that money and reward the disadvantaged who have never paid any taxes...if you get my drift.

regards,
5412

Kids and adults today are more materialistic than idealistic. Especially about the things they think that they are entitled to like a car, a nice house, TV, stereo system, cell phone, etc. etc. Back in Hitler's day, times were tough. Obama may think that he has the youth vote in his back pocket but if this economy goes into the dumps, they will turn on him. At least that is my opinion. I just do not see how Obama could pull off getting reelected if the economy does not turn around; this will not be a FDR repeat.

Health care is a big issue with me. I have 2 health care policies. If he screws with what I have, I will pack my stuff up and move to Panama. They have American doctors there, use the dollar as their currency, have numerous American banks, 20 year property tax exemptions, expats have more benefits than any place in the world, no income tax on foreign income and welcome Americans. I have considered moving there before Obama was elected. I will not live in a country where some bureaucrat tells me when I can go see specialist or what hospital I have to go to. Heck, I hate HMO's; so a universal health care system is out of the question for me. 

[5412]

Kids and adults today are more materialistic than idealistic. Especially about the things they think that they are entitled to like a car, a nice house, TV, stereo system, cell phone, etc. etc. Back in Hitler's day, times were tough. Obama may think that he has the youth vote in his back pocket but if this economy goes into the dumps, they will turn on him. At least that is my opinion. I just do not see how Obama could pull off getting reelected if the economy does not turn around; this will not be a FDR repeat.

Health care is a big issue with me. I have 2 health care policies. If he screws with what I have, I will pack my stuff up and move to Panama. They have American doctors there, use the dollar as their currency, have numerous American banks, 20 year property tax exemptions, expats have more benefits than any place in the world, no income tax on foreign income and welcome Americans. I have considered moving there before Obama was elected. I will not live in a country where some bureaucrat tells me when I can go see specialist or what hospital I have to go to. Heck, I hate HMO's; so a universal health care system is out of the question for me. 

Hi,

I have a question.....and a suggestion.

Having investigated places to go, both Panama and Costa Rica which have some American presence, are names that come up frequently.  At the same time, folks who have been there say basically you are living withing a small land mass and it is not safe to go off the resrervation.  Do you have any information about safe areas in Central America???

My suggestion to you is this.  If you think you may want to leave this country, and who can blame you, my suggestion is you better start moving your money to a safe haven now while you still can.  The stuff I am reading is that there is a good chance they will stop the money fleeing the country basically saying you cannot take money out of the country.  Particularly with the push back they are getting from the Swiss folks, that may be their next step. 

Once they stop money from going out of the country, then the next step is to confiscate the gold by buying it from you for worthless paper dollars.  Roosevelt did that, bought the gold from the public at $20/oz. then, once he confiscated it, declared it to be worth $35 oz. which basically deflated the currency by $60.

Bottom line is the government has already passed laws that say if you leave the country, you can go but you will be taxed as though you died, and you can take the rest of your money with you.....and you cannot come back.  I can forsee the day they will say you can go, but you just cannot take money with you.

Right now there are hundreds of millions of dollars being taken out of this country by folks like you and I who are afraid of what is going on.

regards,
5412

[Chris_]

Kids and adults today are more materialistic than idealistic. Especially about the things they think that they are entitled to like a car, a nice house, TV, stereo system, cell phone, etc. etc. Back in Hitler's day, times were tough. Obama may think that he has the youth vote in his back pocket but if this economy goes into the dumps, they will turn on him. At least that is my opinion. I just do not see how Obama could pull off getting reelected if the economy does not turn around; this will not be a FDR repeat.

Health care is a big issue with me. I have 2 health care policies. If he screws with what I have, I will pack my stuff up and move to Panama. They have American doctors there, use the dollar as their currency, have numerous American banks, 20 year property tax exemptions, expats have more benefits than any place in the world, no income tax on foreign income and welcome Americans. I have considered moving there before Obama was elected. I will not live in a country where some bureaucrat tells me when I can go see specialist or what hospital I have to go to. Heck, I hate HMO's; so a universal health care system is out of the question for me. 

Interesting that you should bring up Panama,  as Mrs. doc and myself are looking at moving down there as well.  With the official currency being the dollar, and the tax benefits for "pensioners", it looks like a great place to hide out.  Health insurance is quite inexpensive, and according to what we've read, the quality of care, particularly in the expat communities is excellent.

We are applying for a 90-day visa, and might go down there in the fall to have a look around.  Can't really place too much stock in internet real estate sites, but based on what I see, you can buy a pretty nice "villa" on the beach, in a gated area, for around 300 grand.........I can learn to live with that.

doc

[rich_t]

I understand the desire by some to "get out" while they still can.

But as for me, I'd rather stay and fight.  As far as I am concerned; I have to.  The oath I took didn't come with an expiration date.

[Lacarnut]

Hi,

I have a question.....and a suggestion.

Having investigated places to go, both Panama and Costa Rica which have some American presence, are names that come up frequently.  At the same time, folks who have been there say basically you are living withing a small land mass and it is not safe to go off the resrervation.  Do you have any information about safe areas in Central America???

My suggestion to you is this.  If you think you may want to leave this country, and who can blame you, my suggestion is you better start moving your money to a safe haven now while you still can.  The stuff I am reading is that there is a good chance they will stop the money fleeing the country basically saying you cannot take money out of the country.  Particularly with the push back they are getting from the Swiss folks, that may be their next step. 

Once they stop money from going out of the country, then the next step is to confiscate the gold by buying it from you for worthless paper dollars.  Roosevelt did that, bought the gold from the public at $20/oz. then, once he confiscated it, declared it to be worth $35 oz. which basically deflated the currency by $60.

Bottom line is the government has already passed laws that say if you leave the country, you can go but you will be taxed as though you died, and you can take the rest of your money with you.....and you cannot come back.  I can forsee the day they will say you can go, but you just cannot take money with you.

Right now there are hundreds of millions of dollars being taken out of this country by folks like you and I who are afraid of what is going on.

regards,
5412

$10k is the limit that you can posses when you travel to another country. An individual that is not an expat can not deposit funds directly into an American bank in Panama. You have go thru an attorney and set up either a business account or some type of corporation. After you jump thru that legal hurdle, I think you can wire any amount to them. It is not like you laundering money. This is money that you have paid taxes on. I might be wrong on that assertion but I don't think so. What the Feds are trying to do is collect taxes on income that an individual made whether he made it in this country or abroad. What is strange is that their money market accounts thru American banks are paying 4 and 5 per cent. I am getting half that amount. You don't have that FDIC thingy though.

I don't know of any other countries in S.A. that would have as stable a government as Panama. I worked with a lady that was from there. She loves it there but can make much more money in the states.

[RobJohnson]

I will not live in a country where some bureaucrat tells me when I can go see specialist or what hospital I have to go to. Heck, I hate HMO's; so a universal health care system is out of the question for me. 

True, some insurance companies have a "preferred" hospital but you always have the option of going where you want, if you are willing to pay the higher co-pay.

National health care would be a huge train wreck.

[5412]

HI,

This is in response to the last few posts.

Doc---Sure would appreciate your comments after your visit, that would really help.

As far as taking money out, I realize you can only take $10,000.  At the same time we still can invest overseas for the moment.  I am moving some of my IRA money....legally...to another country.  The goal is not to avoid taxes as the IRS is squawking about but rather to have it outside the US.  The reason is this.  If one decided to leave the country, the money you have outside the US is indeed already there and is portable.  Let's say for example, you bought some Swiss government bonds, denominated in Swiss francs.  You want the income converted to dollars and sent to Panama, no problem.  If you are still a US citizen, you pay taxes on the income like always but at least you have money to live on.

At our age, my wife and I have decided to stay here if possible.  I would rather die fighting for a cause than drooling in my Cheerios in a nursing home.  At the same time should one of us be denied health care we may be left with no choice but to go elsewhere....much like Canadians are doing now when they come to the US.

Personally, I see a few items that could send us into some sort of revolution, either a situation where states secede to maintain their sovereignty, or a racial civil war.....health care and confiscation of weapons to defend ourselves fit that category.

Let's hope the group of so called moderate Democrats see it the same way and head it off before it comes to pass.

Have a good day,
5412