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GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money .....
« on: February 18, 2009, 09:51:45 AM »


Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, a potential 2012 GOP presidential candidate, has suggested his state may not be interested in all of the roughly $4 billion allotted to it in the economic stimulus package to be signed by President Obama today.

"We'll have to review each program, each new dollar to make sure that we understand what are the conditions, what are the strings and see whether it's beneficial for Louisiana to use those dollars," Jindal said, according to CBS affiliate WWLTV.

Louisiana reportedly faces a possible $2 billion budget shortfall next year. It has been allocated $538,575,876 for infrastructure spending in the stimulus package, and the White House predicts the bill will create 50,000 jobs in the state.

As WWLTV notes, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin has said he’ll take any money that Louisiana turns down.

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I'm liking this guy a lot.

Of course Nagin will take the money--it's "free" for his "chocolate city."  ::) :whatever: :mental:
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Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money .....
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 10:01:42 AM »
I'm liking this guy a lot.


Me too.  In the 1970s we needed Carter to get Reagan.  Maybe in 2012 we needed Teh Obamessiah in order to get (at least the likes of) Jindal?
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Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money .....
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 10:09:47 AM »
Nagin would take money from terrorists. He is one of those democrats that wants to suck every dime out of taxpayers. One of his predecessors tried to pass a welfare tax on hotels and restuarants. After a number of entities said they would cancel their convention in the city, this stupid idea was dropped.

Jindal will probably take most of the money. We have a large medicaid population in LA. Jindal has been good for the state and I see a future for him in national politics.

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Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money .....
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 10:10:17 AM »
Me too.  In the 1970s we needed Carter to get Reagan.  Maybe in 2012 we needed Teh Obamessiah in order to get (at least the likes of) Jindal?

Jindal, or Palin.  I'm kinda partial to the latter.
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Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money .....
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 11:12:02 AM »
This is what Gov. Perry (Texas) said:
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Texas Gov. Rick Perry: Be cautious with federal stimulus

 AUSTIN, Texas – Republican Gov. Rick Perry, who has been sharply critical of federal bailout and economic stimulus plans, said Tuesday that Texas should now be cautious about how it spends billions of dollars that may be available to the Lone Star State.

"I might as well quit grousing about it, because it's reality now," Perry said in a speech to the National Federation of Independent Business.

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 "We're still looking at everything and what the stimulus means for Texas," Perry spokesman Mark Miner said.

Perry told the business group he wants to be able to use federal money to pay for one-time expenses, such as building roads and hurricane reconstruction. State Transportation Department spokesman Chris Lippincott said last week when the stimulus bill was still being finalized that Texas could get up to $2.5 billion for transportation projects.

"We'll gladly accept those dollars," Perry said.

But Perry also said Texas should be wary of spending on other programs just to draw down billions more in federal money that may not be available in two or three years, sticking Texas with the bill. Perry did not say what those programs might be.

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I agree, Texas is doing okay and has reserve money right now.  No state should take money to start a bunch of programs that would be funded right now, but not in a few years.  I like the idea of Perry putting money towards highway construction instead of adding more damn toll roads in North Texas. 
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Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money .....
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 11:19:57 AM »
Jindal, or Palin.  I'm kinda partial to the latter.

Jindal/Palin or Palin/Jindal -- I am good with either.  Good to see Jindal starting to get name recognition.  He should write a book. 
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Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money .....
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 11:38:30 AM »
Jindal/Palin or Palin/Jindal -- I am good with either.  Good to see Jindal starting to get name recognition.  He should write a book. 

Jindal should keep doing what he's doing.  Success will breed it's own familiarity.
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Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money .....
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 11:58:16 AM »
Apparently, Gov. Paterson (D-NY) has no ****ing idea what to do with all of the money.  :thatsright: :banghead:

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CHAOS IN CLUELESS ALBANY AT WINDFALL

By BRENDAN SCOTT Post Correspondent

Last updated: 10:00 am
February 18, 2009
Posted: 1:33 am
February 18, 2009

ALBANY - With the federal stimulus bill now signed into law, Gov. Paterson's administration still has no idea how it will spend more than $4 billion in infrastructure and transportation funding heading to New York state.

While other states have lists of "shovel-ready" projects - highways, train stations and sewer plants - eligible for a share of the stimulus pie, New York has gone back to the drawing board, asking mayors and county executives to resubmit infrastructure wish lists.

The confusion, which Paterson aides blame on the size of the stimulus and its rushed passage in Washington, has ignited concern among officials that they won't be able to take full advantage of the money available, which the White House estimates could create or save 215,000 jobs in New York.

Others say the governor's decision to delegate stimulus-spending decisions to a new Economic Recovery and Reinvestment Cabinet risks losing some of the time-sensitive federal aid.

"The last thing we need is another commission," said Sen. Charles J. Fuschillo Jr. (R-LI). "If [the Cabinet members go] through a selection process like [Paterson] did for the US Senate, it's going to take forever."

How about don't take the money!  'Course, that ain't gonna happen. :thatsright: :mental:

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Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money .....
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 04:36:45 PM »
Jindal will get my vote.  He's a stand-up guy.  He just told Obama to take his handout and shove it....

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 04:55:50 PM »
But is the RNC grooming him for the job like the DMC did with Obama?

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Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money .....
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2009, 07:31:47 PM »
I doubt it, he's actually doing what he was elected to do, instead of campaigning.

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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2009, 07:34:57 PM »
I doubt it, he's actually doing what he was elected to do, instead of campaigning.

We need a lot more just like that.
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Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money .....
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2009, 09:55:43 PM »
Hi,

Our republican Florida governor just bent over and grabbed his ankles.  We have a so called "budget crisis" and he is under the illusion that the bailout money will make it all better, which likely it will not.

Sooner or later they will realize that cutting expenses is not immoral, even though it is an unnatural act within the government.

I felt Crist had a good national future, and he still may, but he lost me on the way he supported the stimulus package.

I loved the interview with Palin and Greta on FOX.  Her advice to Obama, veto the damn bill, you can always sign it later after congress reads it.....

I would love to see Jindahl and Palin on the ticket.  The republican blue bloods would have a coronary with real people on the ticket.

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Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money .....
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2009, 10:26:59 PM »
By MELINDA DESLATTE
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BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) -- A handful of Republican governors are considering turning down some money from the federal stimulus package, a move opponents say puts conservative ideology ahead of the needs of constituents struggling with record foreclosures and soaring unemployment.

Though none has outright rejected the money available for education, health care and infrastructure, the governors of Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana, Alaska, South Carolina and Idaho have all questioned whether the $787 billion bill signed into law this week will even help the economy.

"My concern is there's going to be commitments attached to it that are a mile long," said Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who considered rejecting some of the money but decided Wednesday to accept it. "We need the freedom to pick and choose. And we need the freedom to say 'No thanks.'"

U.S. Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., the No. 3 House Democrat, said the governors - some of whom are said to be eyeing White House bids in 2012 - are putting their own interests first.
"No community or constituent should be denied recovery assistance due to their governor's political ideology or political aspirations," Clyburn said Wednesday.

In fact, governors who reject some of the stimulus aid may find themselves overridden by their own legislatures because of language Clyburn included in the bill that allows lawmakers to accept the federal money even if their governors object.

He inserted the provision based on the early and vocal opposition to the stimulus plan by South Carolina's Republican governor, Mark Sanford. But it also means governors like Sanford and Louisiana's Bobby Jindal - a GOP up-and-comer often mentioned as a potential 2012 presidential candidate - can burnish their conservative credentials, knowing all the while that their legislatures can accept the money anyway.

Jindal said he, like Perry and Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, is concerned about strings attached to the money even though his state faces a $1.7 billion budget shortfall next year.

Barbour spokesman Dan Turner, for example, cited concerns that accepting unemployment money from the stimulus package would force states to pay benefits to people who wouldn't meet state requirements to receive them.

In Idaho, Gov. C.L. "Butch" Otter said he wasn't interested in stimulus money that would expand programs and boost the state's costs in future years when the federal dollars disappear - a worry also cited by Jindal and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

A spokesman said Sanford, the new head of the Republican Governors Association, is looking at the stimulus bill to figure out how much of it he can control.

"We're going through a 1,200-page bill to determine what our options are," Spokesman Joel Sawyer said. "From there, we'll make decisions."

But state Democratic Party chairwoman Carol Fowler says Sanford's hesitation is driven by his political ambition rather than the best interests of a state that had the nation's third-highest unemployment rate in December.

"He's so ideological," Fowler said. "He would rather South Carolina do without jobs than take that money, and I think he's looking for a way not to take it."

Not all Republican governors are reticent about using the federal cash.

Florida Gov. Charlie Crist lobbied for the stimulus plan and Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue has embraced it as he looks to close a $2.6 billion deficit in the state's budget this year. Alabama Gov. Bob Riley has already figured the money into his state's budget.

Pearson Cross, a political scientist at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, said fiscally conservative governors may be able to give themselves political cover by turning down small portions of the stimulus money, like health care dollars requiring a state match, that they might not fully use anyway.

But in the end, he said, they will likely take most of the available money because their states need it so badly.

"Ideology usually takes second place for governors," he said. "And that's going to mean that most governors are going to go ahead and take the money even though they have misgivings about it."

 

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Re: GOP governors consider turning down stimulus money .....
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2009, 11:01:29 PM »
The governors are not only suspicious of the strings attached on the money but the lingering effect of having to budget these expenditures after the government money expires. That is their main concern. The Federal Government has done this in the past and these states do not want to be suckered into accepting new or extended programs on a permanent basis.