Why doesn't anyone want Gitmo Inmates.

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enmito  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-23-09 02:23 PM
Original message
Why is everyone so insistent on not wanting Gitmo al Qaeda suspects in their (state) prisons?
   
Edited on Fri Jan-23-09 02:25 PM by jenmito
Do they not understand that prisons aren't homes where these people can come and go freely? Do they have no confidence that prisons actually keep people AWAY from the outside community? Do they think every one of these people are worse than mass murderers who are already being kept there? Why do some people talk like these suspects are magic and can escape and kill everyone in their state?

ETA-Jack Murtha said HE wouldn't mind if some of them were kept in PA. Good for him!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8133874

Why indeed ...

davidinalameda  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-23-09 02:26 PM
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1. these are federal prisoners
   
most, if not all, state prisons are so overcrowded and cost the states millions, if not billions in some states

these prisoners are not the responsibility of the states

let the feds deal with them

Like they are presently doing. At Gitmo.

nadinbrzezinski  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-23-09 02:27 PM
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2. Here is the reality
   
these suspects, prisoners et al, should be kept in a MILITARY BRIG under the status of Prisoners of War

Yes, it is that simple

Save that Military Brig a special POW camp built in the middle of nowhere with ICRC personnel on-site

They do NOT belong in any state criminal system

They don't meet the criteria for POW status.

alcibiades_mystery  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Fri Jan-23-09 02:53 PM
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20. Lacking any clear criteria for the cessation of hostilities
   
Holding people under POW status in perpetuity is tantamount to arbitrary, indefinite, and extrajudicial detention. Terrorism is a crime, not a war. They should be tried if there is evidence, released otherwise.

If they really were POW's and not illegal combatants.

sparosnare  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Fri Jan-23-09 02:27 PM
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3. Magical thinking is their specialty.
   
My asshole of a Senator Cornyn stated that he sure doesn't want them here in Texas - as if they have far-reaching powers to destroy us all. So dumb.

You want to live closer to those scum ?. Fine. We send you to Gitmo to join em.

Bluerthanblue  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Fri Jan-23-09 02:32 PM
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8. fear mongers working overtime.
   


"not in my backyard mentality?

I'd be willing to bet any one of us is more likely to be killed by a drunk driver than a 'terror' suspect escaping from a prison.

Care to bet your life on that ? Thought not.

wryter2000  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-23-09 02:36 PM
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10. Because they're skeery, skeery Muslins
   
They have superpowers and stuff, and the only way you can keep them in line is torcher. And we all know prisons are country clubs with liberrys and gyms.

Speaking from experience I trust.

Hippo_Tron  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Fri Jan-23-09 02:45 PM
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15. Because they're ****ing idiots, the people at GITMO aren't rapists and murderers
   
If they are even guilty of anything, they are terrorists, which means that they aren't interested in harming individuals. Drop them off in my backyard or your backyard, it makes no difference to my safety whatsoever. Their potential crime, again if they are even criminals, is to blow up bridges or buildings. And no they aren't going to just blow up the first one they see.

Did I read that right ?

Really ?

That's just.... wow.

[BEG]

Hippo_Tron  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Fri Jan-23-09 02:45 PM
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15. Because they're ****ing idiots, the people at GITMO aren't rapists and murderers
   
If they are even guilty of anything, they are terrorists, which means that they aren't interested in harming individuals. Drop them off in my backyard or your backyard, it makes no difference to my safety whatsoever. Their potential crime, again if they are even criminals, is to blow up bridges or buildings. And no they aren't going to just blow up the first one they see.

This person just won the stupidest post of 2009 and January isn't even over yet. 

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

nadinbrzezinski  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-23-09 02:27 PM
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2. Here is the reality
   
these suspects, prisoners et al, should be kept in a MILITARY BRIG under the status of Prisoners of War...

Except they aren't POW's because they do not:

* answer to a recognizable state chain-of-command
* openly carry their arms
* wear identifiable uniforms
* make every reasonable effort to confine their actions to legitimate military targets

If you did more than merely bloviate about the Geneva Conventions you idiots would know better.

[USA4ME]

alcibiades_mystery

Terrorism is a crime, not a war.

Immature beliefs like that created the possibility, and eventually the reality, of 9-11.

.

[Atomic Lib Smasher]

This is why you don't let these inmates go, DUmbasses:

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/freed-gitmo-detainee-becomes-al-qaeda-chief

[TheSarge]

enmito  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-23-09 02:23 PM
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Why is everyone so insistent on not wanting Gitmo al Qaeda suspects in their (state) prisons?

Proof positive that to be a Libtard you are required to check your brain at the door.

[Chris_]

Why don't we put them in the now-empty camps we had built for democrats when Bush declared marshall law?

[Chris_]

Why don't we put them in the now-empty camps we had built for democrats when Bush declared marshall law?

I think I liked our Senator, Kit Bond's solution best, as stated in a recent radio interview.  ".........since it is the San Francisco liberals that want them out of Gitmo so badly, let's put them in Alcatraz..........."

doc

[BlueStateSaint]

I think I liked our Senator, Kit Bond's solution best, as stated in a recent radio interview.  ".........since it is the San Francisco liberals that want them out of Gitmo so badly, let's put them in Alcatraz..........."

doc

Naah, they'd never survive the swim to the mainland.  Make the prison in the middle of the Castro district--the home of the homos.  If the inmates of the prison ever got out, they'd start killing.

[Wretched Excess]

Hippo_Tron  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Fri Jan-23-09 02:45 PM
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15. Because they're ****ing idiots, the people at GITMO aren't rapists and murderers
   
If they are even guilty of anything, they are terrorists, which means that they aren't interested in harming individuals. Drop them off in my backyard or your backyard, it makes no difference to my safety whatsoever. Their potential crime, again if they are even criminals, is to blow up bridges or buildings. And no they aren't going to just blow up the first one they see.

This person just won the stupidest post of 2009 and January isn't even over yet. 

that could be the stupidest post of the millenium, and it's only 2009.

[Chris_]

Hey, so long as nobody asks questions of what I DO with said inmates, I'll take some Club Gitmo residents.

Say 2-3 a week or so?

[JohnnyReb]

Why doesn't anyone want Gitmo Inmates.

1- Have you seen the price of she camel piss lately?

2- Do you really want your pets and animals raped by these scumbaggers?

3- There is one plus...save the trees....they wipe their ass with their left hand.

4- They like to play with sharp objects....ah hell....turn'em loose, conservatives have guns and guns trump sharp objects.

[Chris_]

Immature beliefs like that created the possibility, and eventually the reality, of 9-11.

.

Two of these "guests" should be boarded with Will Pitt and Raven.

They both can report on DU. Assuming they would still be alive.

Teh Stupid on DU gets better and better.

[Wretched Excess]

I think he is going to ultimately have to create his own gitmo, possibly in afghanistan.  his argument in favor of shutting the place down was founded on abject ignorance, but now he is welded to that position.

we shall see if the DUmmies demand congressional investigations and impeachment then.

[Chris]

Hey, look at what I found here...

Freed by the U.S., Saudi Becomes a Qaeda Chief

BEIRUT, Lebanon — The emergence of a former Guantánamo Bay detainee as the deputy leader of Al Qaeda’s Yemeni branch has underscored the potential complications in carrying out the executive order President Obama signed Thursday that the detention center be shut down within a year.

The militant, Said Ali al-Shihri, is suspected of involvement in a deadly bombing of the United States Embassy in Yemen’s capital, Sana, in September. He was released to Saudi Arabia in 2007 and passed through a Saudi rehabilitation program for former jihadists before resurfacing with Al Qaeda in Yemen.

His status was announced in an Internet statement by the militant group and was confirmed by an American counterterrorism official.

Yeah.  Send them to my neighborhood.  They can't be any worse than the locals.

[BlueStateSaint]

Not only should they go to Will Pitt and Raven's abode, I think BOSSHOG, TominTib, and Philosoraptor should get two or three each.  They can liveblog about their experiences with them.

[FlaGator]

Hippo_Tron  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Fri Jan-23-09 02:45 PM
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15. Because they're ******* idiots, the people at GITMO aren't rapists and murderers
   
If they are even guilty of anything, they are terrorists, which means that they aren't interested in harming individuals. Drop them off in my backyard or your backyard, it makes no difference to my safety whatsoever. Their potential crime, again if they are even criminals, is to blow up bridges or buildings. And no they aren't going to just blow up the first one they see.

The individuals who have had their head cut off would beg to differ.... if they were alive that is.

[Rebel]

The individuals who have had their head cut off would beg to differ.... if they were alive that is.

...and WTC '01, WTC '93, the USS Cole, Khobar Towers, two American embassies, many Israeli coffee shop patrons, the Pentagon, Flights UA 175, UA 93, AA 11, AA 77, Pan Am flight 103, Achille Lauro passenger Leon Klinghoffer, ........shall I go on DUmpmonkeys?