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Offline thundley4

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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2008, 10:05:45 AM »
Funny, but I haven't heard anything from Der Fuhrer on this yet, nor from any of his Lieutenants.

Edit: I just found this.
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President-elect Barack Obama was briefed at the weekend by the US secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, about the Israeli bombardment of Gaza but afterwards gave no hint of how he would go about resolving the conflict.

Obama, who is on holiday on Hawaii, spoke to Rice for about eight minutes on Saturday. His national security spokeswoman, Brooke Anderson, said: "The president-elect appreciated the call and the information from Secretary Rice. He will continue to closely monitor these and other global events."

She added that he would not comment, as he was sticking to the formula that there should be "one president at a time".

Although Obama has repeatedly said he will abide by the protocol of not commenting on international and domestic matters until he becomes president on January 20, he has largely abandoned this in relation to the economic crisis, on which he has spoken regularly over the last few weeks, often at odds with George Bush.

Obama has given no hint so far on his policy on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, though he has said finding a peace plan will be an early priority of his administration.
Guardian UK
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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2008, 10:19:44 AM »
And of course there are all these protests against Israel but never a peep when it is Israelis being kileld by rocket attacks from Hamas. Peoples hypocrisy is just astounding. As for cease fires...they never work and never solve anything. Especially when you are dealing with 14th century islamic fanatics. Israel has been sitting on its hands for too long. I for one am glad to see them going after Hamas.
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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2008, 10:44:03 AM »
And of course there are all these protests against Israel but never a peep when it is Israelis being kileld by rocket attacks from Hamas. Peoples hypocrisy is just astounding. As for cease fires...they never work and never solve anything. Especially when you are dealing with 14th century islamic fanatics. Israel has been sitting on its hands for too long. I for one am glad to see them going after Hamas.

I don't think it's hypocrisy as much as it's anti-Semitism.  They didn't care when it was Jewish people being killed indiscriminately , but when they defend themselves, then it's a big problem for these idiots.

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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2008, 12:39:45 PM »
Funny, but I haven't heard anything from Der Fuhrer on this yet, nor from any of his Lieutenants.

Edit: I just found this.Guardian UK


He talked to Condi Rice for all of 8 minutes?

Must not have had any questions for Condi....
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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2008, 01:09:29 PM »
And of course there are all these protests against Israel but never a peep when it is Israelis being kileld by rocket attacks from Hamas. Peoples hypocrisy is just astounding. As for cease fires...they never work and never solve anything. Especially when you are dealing with 14th century islamic fanatics. Israel has been sitting on its hands for too long. I for one am glad to see them going after Hamas.

It's the same circular logic they use to defend al-Qaeda and bash the U.S. for trying to eliminate them.
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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2008, 06:12:57 PM »
He talked to Condi Rice for all of 8 minutes?

Must not have had any questions for Condi....

He is too stupid to ask question. Now, if he was asked about the crooks in Chicago, that would be another story.

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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2008, 06:20:13 PM »
He is too stupid to ask question. Now, if he was asked about the crooks in Chicago, that would be another story.

I was thinking that maybe in his mind Condi reminded him to much of 'Chelle and he figured he should just shut the hell up and listen.  :rotf:

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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2008, 07:47:03 PM »
I was thinking that maybe in his mind Condi reminded him to much of 'Chelle and he figured he should just shut the hell up and listen.  :rotf:

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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2008, 09:33:10 PM »
The Izzies are doing something that feels really good and plays very well in their domestic politics in the short run, but in the longer term Hamas is playing them for chumps. 

The Hamas strategy is to get the Israelis to inflict as many 'Collateral' casualties as possible to show the Palestinians two things - (1) Fatah playing nice with the Israelis won't protect them, and (2) The Israelis are the enemy.  It's working pretty well so far.

Although general bias against the Israelis does play a role in the lack of reporting about their casualties, the real reason they don't get much attention is that there AREN'T large numbers of them.  Hamas is firing unguided rockets into Israel which individually have a pretty remote chance of killing anybody, though in the aggregate every once in a hundred or so they do manage to kill someone.  The mortars are not much of a threat to Israeli civilians since there isn't much of a civilian target within the 4K-or-so range of a mortar shell from Gaza, they tend to be aimed at IDF/Police strongpoints instead.

I understand the Israelis are frustrated and the strikes feel good for them.  I just don't think they're going to accomplish anything positive for the Israelis in the long run, and more likely just the opposite.  Things that would resolve it are complex and politically impossible for the Israelis to do anyway, so the Palestinians and Hezbollah are just going to keep playing rope-a-dope with them every couple of years.  The fact that this involves a lot of Palestinian and Lebanese civilians getting killed is not something that will dissuade the anti-Israeli partisans in the slightest degree.
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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2008, 09:39:05 AM »
At some point Israel and the palestinians just need to go to war and get it over with, winner take all.  We've come to a point in time where nations have this strange idea that "playing nice" with hostile neighbors is noble and earns brownie points with other nations.  That's baloney and completely goes against everything history teachs us.  If someone is acting hostile towards you and attacks, if you have the ability then go in, wipe them off the face of the earth, take their stuff, and that sends a message to any others who might have similar ideas.

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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2008, 09:48:59 AM »
To a very large extent, the fact that they already did exactly that without killing all of the Palestinians in the process is the genesis of the current problems.
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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2008, 10:07:43 AM »
I'd hit them (the Palestinians) with this...if you want to end this crap...take the deal offered to you under UN General Assembly Resolution 181 from 1948.

You had the chance to have your own country 60 years ago but refused because you let your hatred for Jews get in the way of your common sense.

Take the deal or quit bitching about what's happeneing.  It's a self created mess.
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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2008, 10:35:17 AM »
I think Israel should just keep air patrols constantly surveying the Gaza area. When they see a mortar or rocket launched, wipe that spot off the face of the earth, regardless what it is.

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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2008, 05:03:16 AM »
I think Israel should just keep air patrols constantly surveying the Gaza area. When they see a mortar or rocket launched, wipe that spot off the face of the earth, regardless what it is.

I'm more in favor of turning the entire gaza strip into a parking lot and dozing the remainder into the med.

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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2009, 07:35:22 AM »
Well, I hate to see any war, however....

Hamas refuses to acknowledge Isreal's right to exist.
I say Isreal has every right to reciprocate that posititon -- refuse to acknowledge Hamas's right to exist.  Non-Hamas Palestinians still have the West Bank, which has been relatively peaceful.  Likewise, it appears that Fatah is finally willing to make peace with Isreal.

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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2009, 07:38:55 AM »
  Likewise, it appears that Fatah is finally willing to make peace with Isreal.
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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2009, 11:42:11 AM »
THE Senior Hamas Leader predicts victory. then gets his ASS blown up!
sucks to be this guy.
read the story here, its really funny.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24864540-1702,00.html?from=public_rss
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THE day before a powerful blast sent his headless body flying out of his Gaza home, senior Hamas leader Nizar Rayan predicted that the Islamist movement would defeat Israel.
"God willing, Hamas will win," Rayan said in a vitriol-laden speech that the movement's television broadcast just after he, his four wives and two of his daughters were killed in the Israeli blitz of the Gaza Strip on Thursday.

Rayan, who was 51, is the most senior Hamas leader killed since Israel unleashed its massive bombardment on Saturday in response to persistent rocket fire from the enclav

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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2009, 12:24:56 PM »
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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2009, 09:32:32 AM »
I've been listening to FNC in the background, and they've had some of the usual Hamas apologists calling Israel the aggressor as usual.  Of course most of the MSM will downplay the Hamas rocket attacks, and will focus on any civilians killed by Israel.   As far as I'm concerned, there are no civilians in Gaza. That stopped when they elected Hamas members as their government.

I listened to the idjits on Michael Savage (on the way back home from a New Years party) actually saying the rockets were small???????!!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?! and, as you rightly predict, the big, mean JEWSSSSSSSSSS were killing nothing but women and children.

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Re: Israel launches air strikes on Gaza, 155 dead
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2009, 09:39:09 AM »
I listened to the idjits on Michael Savage (on the way back home from a New Years party) actually saying the rockets were small???????!!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?! and, as you rightly predict, the big, mean JEWSSSSSSSSSS were killing nothing but women and children.

We are a nation of DUmbasses.  :mental:

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I'd like to lob a few of those at their family's residences and see if they didn't get the itch to pick up arms against me.
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