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Offline franksolich

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aged primitives reminesce about election of 1960
« on: October 11, 2008, 02:24:05 PM »
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Ragazz68  (1000+ posts)  Sat Oct-11-08 10:08 AM
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another...DUers Over 60 Years Old Question......   

What do you remember about the tone of the 1960 POTUS campaign? Was the level of anti-JFK rhetoric by the Nixon backers comparable to what we are seeing with the Rethug base today? I'm sure your answers may differ depending upon the region of the country you were in at the time. Please share....

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WannaJumpMyScooter  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Sat Oct-11-08 10:10 AM
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2. no, no where near this except at the conventions where it was silly world

now it seems the conventioneering goes on for months

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Jackpine Radical  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Sat Oct-11-08 10:10 AM
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3. There was a lot of anti-Catholic stuff.
   
I don't recall actual hostility like this.

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Dyedinthewoolliberal  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Sat Oct-11-08 10:15 AM
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10. Plus there was where I lived, a working class neighborhood in Detroit, a distinct, 'Kennedy is rich so we're for Nixon' sentiment among some of the parents of friends of mine.

Plus we only had 3 tv channels, local news was maybe 15 minutes long,. many more people read newspapers and of course, no internet. A lot tougher to stir the pot compared to today.

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Hepburn  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-11-08 10:12 AM
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6. I am 60...but, of course, I do NOT look it...and I do remember the 1960 race.
   
I was only 12 at the time, but I do not recall the kind of ugliness I see today. Yes, there was whispering about how the Pope would run the USA if Kennedy a ....ooooooooooooh.... Catholic was elected. But nothing sick and ugly and leading to violent expressions like one sees today.

Maybe I was too young back then to understand...but I do sure do not recall such ugliness as seen in the last few general elections.

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Ozma  (99 posts) Sat Oct-11-08 10:38 AM
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20. You have it exactly right, Hepburn!
   
I am older than you, a high school kid at the time.

Lots of anti-Catholic sentiment among right wing religious nuts. Nixon never went NEAR it in his rallies. Of course, there was only 1/2 hour of news on TV on 3 major networks, (no cable)...most of us still had black and white TV sets.

O those were the days, when there was NOTHING good on TV to watch most of the time, and you could get your homework done at night.

I Love Lucy.... Milton Berle..... Jack Benny....Our Miss Brooks.... and game shows game shows game shows.

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Hepburn  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-11-08 10:44 AM
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26. Heya, Ozma....welcome to the DU!
   
I was in the 6th grade at the time...would have been in total awe if a High Schooler like you had even NOTICED me back then!

Yep...B&W TVs and news once a day at dinner time.

And Nixon NEVER mentioned religion let alone the word "Catholic." Can you imagine what it would have been like if that campaign had taken place today? Man, we would have been digging through bullshit about Papa Joe and Gloria Swanson and JFK and Marilyn!

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stolivodka  Donating Member  (198 posts) Sat Oct-11-08 10:14 AM
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9. LOL, Nixon is to the left of most Democrats today.
   
Seriously, though, nobody ever shouted "Kill him!" or "Traitor!" at a Nixon rally.

OK, I don't know this, but the GOP, back then, was more of a party of snooty big money interests and much less of a party of poor rabid redneck fundys, as it is, today. We have everyone's idol Ray-run to blame for the modern makeup of the GOP. Back then, I imagine they'd have more likely bitched about Kennedy's proposed monetary policy over shots of scotch.

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HooptieWagon  (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-11-08 10:28 AM
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16. I agree, Nixon probably was a bit left of many current Dems.
   
And yes, Reagan did bring the fundies into the GOP, but the "modern" GOP goes back to Goldwater/Nixon. Facing dismal polls, Goldwater started in with the racist demagogery and was able to pick up several deep south states. This led to the GOP developing their "Southern Strategy" for '68. The deep south had been reliably Dem for better than 100 years, due to Lincoln freeing the slaves and winning the Civil War. By the late 60's, many of the southern Dems (pissed about integration), were swayed by the GOP's courting of the racist elements of the Democratic Party. The GOP's rightward swing in '80 may have driven away some moderates and working class, but those losses were made up for by the GOP courting the evangelicals.

The bonfire blazes on and on, in nostalgia over something that never was.

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zeemike  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-11-08 10:58 AM
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33. I was 17 at the time and remember it well.
   
And as others have said there was no way the level of hate we see today at the election of JFK
But that hate actually started in the early 60s when JFK took action on civil rights in Mississippi and Alabama.

That is the root of all the hate we see today. They have not gotten over integration and probably never will until they meet Petter at the golden gate.

How many here remember or know about Lester Maddox and his handing out ax handles at his restaurant. I think that is when the threat of violence became a tactic of the Repukes.

Wasn't Lester Maddox a Democrat, and didn't that happen in 1966, six years after 1960?

For obvious reasons, I have no memory of the election of 1960, but I have the impression the campaign was much more complex, much more saturated with other issues and personalities, than just this "anti-Catholic" sentiment.

I was disappointed to not see the mountain man primitive, the "ThomWV" primitive, at this bonfire, as he's big into this sort of thing, and despite his frequent insistence that he's "atheist," to him, John is the Father, Bobby is the Christ, and Vast Teddy is the Holy Spirit.  Another Kennedy theocrat.
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Re: aged primitives reminesce about election of 1960
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2008, 03:32:49 PM »
Funny thing is that JFK was so far to the right of todays dems and the primitives that they wouldn`t allow him in their party if he were alive.

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Re: aged primitives reminesce about election of 1960
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2008, 04:41:06 PM »
iNDEED, Kennedy was far far far to the right of today's democrats.

Part below:


"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

This much we pledge -- and more.

To those old allies whose cultural and spiritual origins we share, we pledge the loyalty of faithful friends. United there is little we cannot do in a host of cooperative ventures. Divided there is little we can do -- for we dare not meet a powerful challenge at odds and split asunder.

To those new states whom we welcome to the ranks of the free, we pledge our word that one form of colonial control shall not have passed away merely to be replaced by a far more iron tyranny. We shall not always expect to find them supporting our view. But we shall always hope to find them strongly supporting their own freedom -- and to remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside.

To those people in the huts and villages of half the globe struggling to break the bonds of mass misery, we pledge our best efforts to help them help themselves, for whatever period is required -- not because the Communists may be doing it, not because we seek their votes, but because it is right. If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich."


http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/jfkinaugural.htm

The whole speech above and the video. 

Today's leftists would be hystrerically opposed.



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Re: aged primitives reminesce about election of 1960
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2008, 04:53:50 PM »
....and the 1960 election was also stolen by dead voters.

I was 13 and in the ninth grade......times were good. :-)
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Re: aged primitives reminesce about election of 1960
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2008, 05:31:29 PM »
....and the 1960 election was also stolen by dead voters.

I was 13 and in the ninth grade......times were good. :-)

And those voters continue to exercise that right to this day. Well, the democrats anyway.  The republicans are taken home to Heaven.
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