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Offline CC27

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Don't think this is good news? I beg to differ.
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Don't think this is good news? I beg to differ.

Another dismal poll for donald was released yesterday, showing him at 33 percent approval. According to Harry Enten on CNN "Trump was unpopular going into midterms during his first presidency, but not like this--he's doing 19 points worse."

Look, it would be great if he was at zero. Not gonna happen. But several well respected polls have showed him mired in the low thirties recently. This is definitely going to help us in the midterms. If nothing else it will depress turnout on the R side and that's great for us.

I look at it like this. Thirty percent of the population approves of him and that's the maga base. What do we know about them? Well they're low information voters who are not motivated to vote except when trump is on the ballot? Is he on the ballot? No.

I just don't see how thirty percent of the population with little to motivate them will keep us from success in the midterms. Not going to happen. Not with the energy I see on our side.

https://democraticunderground.com/100221449208

Compared to what??? The socialist morons running for office in your stupid party?

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Re: Don't think this is good news? I beg to differ.
« Reply #1 on: Today at 11:05:17 AM »
Are these the pollsters who had Hongster winning in Wisconsin by double-digit margins? Whatever the combination of model defects, partisan over-sampling, respondents lying, or partisan fabrication, I wouldn't believe a pollster if his/her/its tongue were notarized. Including if I liked their conclusions.
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Re: Don't think this is good news? I beg to differ.
« Reply #2 on: Today at 11:15:44 AM »


 Yep. There seems to be some wildly inaccurate polling these days.

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« Reply #3 on: Today at 12:05:47 PM »
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/6035570-median-strategies-closes-fake-polls/

Not saying it is the case of out and out fabrication but polling is an art form to say the least.

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Re: Don't think this is good news? I beg to differ.
« Reply #4 on: Today at 12:14:12 PM »
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/6035570-median-strategies-closes-fake-polls/

Not saying it is the case of out and out fabrication but polling is an art form to say the least.

IIRC, that was about the LA mayoral race, i.e. Blue-On-Blue fakery. Regardless of who "wins", normal residents of the Land of LA will lose.
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« Reply #5 on: Today at 02:00:55 PM »
The polling might not only be inaccurate, but may be intentionally so.

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Re: Don't think this is good news? I beg to differ.
« Reply #6 on: Today at 02:15:07 PM »
This has been percolating since this morning, but it is a worthy read:

In Latest 'Duh' Moment, GOP Pollster Finds Dem-Favoring Polls 'Not Just Statistical Noise'

As Americans are knee-deep in the 2026 midterm election primary season, the conventional wisdom surrounding the myriad polls they are treated to is that, as far as midterm elections go, most people don't start paying attention to candidate polls until after Labor Day. But what if that isn't true? And what if those polls are just not accurate? One Republican pollster decided to put the math to the test.

Patrick Ruffini is the co-founder of Eshelon Insights. He studied over 3,000 polls that encompassed the last four election cycles, and now he may have proof of what Republicans have long suspected. His investigation into Senate election polling revealed that a stunning 73 percent of the polls overstated support for Democrat candidates. Ruffini found that the greatest disparity with poll numbers occurs during the summer months, where there is an almost six-point edge for Democrats in late July that doesn't begin to fall until late August. Ruffini shared his findings on his Substack, writing:

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In the last few election cycles, we’ve seen a pattern of Democrats looking competitive in red state Senate contests during the summer only to fade by election day. I wanted to test if this was a consistent pattern, not just the selective memory of a Republican. The average polling error across all polls was D+3.7, and 73% of polls released overstated the Democrat relative to the election result. Again, that’s across more than 3,000 polls, so that’s hardly just statistical noise.

Just a few of the election polls that Ruffini looked at were the 2020 race between the late Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Democrat Jaime Harrison. One of those polls, a Quinnipiac poll from July 30 to August 3, showed a tied race, with a CBS/YouGov poll showing Graham with just a one-point lead through September. Graham would go on to win by 10 points. In 2022, former Ohio Congressman Tim Ryan was up against now-Vice President JD Vance. Again, throughout the summer, most polling showed Ryan ahead of Vance. Vance would go on to win the election by six points. In 2024, in the race between former Sen. Sherrod Brown and now-Sen. Bernie Moreno, summer polling gave Brown an edge of anywhere from two to six points. Moreno won by almost four points.

Democrats will no doubt try to downplay Ruffini's results as just election-year ebbs and flows in poll numbers. And while perhaps a small number of voters might be affected, they are affected nonetheless, and Democrats know it. How many more polling companies like Median Strategies are out there? With each election cycle, Democrats are proving they will do what they feel they have to do to gain and keep power. Skewing poll numbers is just all in a day's work.

https://redstate.com/beckynoble/2026/08/19/in-latest-duh-moment-republican-pollster-finds-polls-favoring-dems-not-just-statistical-noise-n2205807
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