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A tribute to Zelensky
« on: March 21, 2025, 07:46:22 AM »
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A tribute to Zelensky
My first portrait.
I chose him because I wanted to paint a real hero.
A man who would die for his people instead of help to kill them.



https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220159756

You idiots need new heros.
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Re: A tribute to Zelensky
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2025, 08:46:06 AM »
As soon as the war is over and they have elections, he’ll be gone.
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Re: A tribute to Zelensky
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2025, 08:59:59 AM »
 :yawn: Nicely done drawing, not sure how much resemblance there is, though. I suspect Zelensky would prefer more artistry like this, orc invaders and orcish equipment going boom:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djvKwdXnqwA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3AmraJh1Mk
An update showing damage done to this base, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkyAkXbOA44
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Re: A tribute to Zelensky
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2025, 12:28:53 PM »
YES!!! Let's give a tribute to little z-man for he has just literally and figuratively blown up the beginnings of a cease fire and possible peace deal  by blowing up a Russian gas installation in Russia. I look forward to the war mongering democrat party to be overjoyed at this.

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Re: A tribute to Zelensky
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2025, 12:35:52 PM »
As long as Russia is attacking Ukraine with tanks, IFVs, rockets, missiles, helicopters, and planes, the sources of their fuel are valid military targets. When Putin stops the oil-fueled attacks Ukraine will stop attacking the fuel sources.

Did that really need to be explained?
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Re: A tribute to Zelensky
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2025, 04:51:18 PM »
So now Che is in second place with the dummies.
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Re: A tribute to Zelensky
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2025, 04:53:41 PM »
Quote from: SVPete on March 21, 2025, 12:35:52 PM
As long as Russia is attacking Ukraine with tanks, IFVs, rockets, missiles, helicopters, and planes, the sources of their fuel are valid military targets. When Putin stops the oil-fueled attacks Ukraine will stop attacking the fuel sources.

Did that really need to be explained?

I don't think we are going to agree on this. It appears that you are anti-Putin and that's OK but the reality of this is that Ukraine is going to lose. It is just a matter of how much and how many. Seeing this conflict as binary is not the way I look at it but you be you.
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Re: A tribute to Zelensky
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2025, 05:41:24 PM »
Quote from: jukin on March 21, 2025, 04:53:41 PM
I don't think we are going to agree on this. It appears that you are anti-Putin and that's OK but the reality of this is that Ukraine is going to lose. It is just a matter of how much and how many. Seeing this conflict as binary is not the way I look at it but you be you.

I tend to agree, and I’m not in any way pro-Putin. I’ve said before that I supported Z at the start, but the longer this goes on the more on the fence I become. It looks like there may not a "good guy" in charge on either side. In my opinion, it’s time for Z to decide if he wants to keep milking the cow and risk losing the entire country OR be satisfied with the milk the cow has already produced and keep most of the country. Since the media tends to be very much (A) pro-Zelenskyy and (B) pathological liars, I find myself wondering just how much of their reporting on the war can be trusted.
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Re: A tribute to Zelensky
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2025, 06:15:29 PM »
Quote from: jukin on March 21, 2025, 04:53:41 PM
I don't think we are going to agree on this. It appears that you are anti-Putin and that's OK but the reality of this is that Ukraine is going to lose. It is just a matter of how much and how many. Seeing this conflict as binary is not the way I look at it but you be you.

Let's see ... Putin defenestrate political opponents ... poisons political opponents outside of Russia ... invaded Georgia ... invaded Ukraine in 2014 to occupy the Crimean Peninsula ... invaded Ukraine in 2022 in an effort to conquer the whole country ... has Belarus as a puppet state ... has proxies trying to make Moldova a puppet or set it up for conquest.

Yeah, I'm "anti-Putin", for all the reasons listed above. But it would be more to the point at hand that I do not want to see Putin succeed in reassembling Stalin's and the Czar's empire, something that clearly would be against US interests. Whether the Czars or Stalin, the Russian bear was never satisfied, and Putin's actions show he won't be, either. With Russia having to use 1960s tanks, feed thousands of North Korean mercenaries into the meatgrinder where they get ground up (as have nearly a million Russians), the Black Sea Fleet reduced to patrol craft, Russian air defenses growing in porosity, Russian oil industry under continual attack, I'm not convinced that Ukraine will lose (nor that they will win). I've been seeing Ukraine is Doomed! chatter for 3 years and Ukraine still obstinately declines to crumble.

ETA: Fighting against an invader is "milking the cow"? Was that supposed to be a serious comment? Do you really believe Zelensky is fool enough to skim $$$$ AND stay where a random Russian cruise missile or glide bomb could kill him? He isn't that stupid. Further, do you believe the US is Ukraine's sole arms supplier? Former Soviet satellites have been supplying the shells for Ukraine's Russian-caliber artillery. The Leopard 2 and Challenger 2 tanks, Marders, AMX-10s, Caesars, MiGs (e.g. from Poland), ... Ukraine has been using very obviously are not from the US. In the real world European countries have supplied equipment and munitions all along in addition the US.
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