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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-01-08 03:47 PMOriginal message Sun Makes History: First Spotless Month in a Century Source: DailyTechDrop in solar activity has potential effect for climate on earth.The sun has reached a milestone not seen for nearly 100 years: an entire month has passed without a single visible sunspot being noted.The event is significant as many climatologists now believe solar magnetic activity – which determines the number of sunspots -- is an influencing factor for climate on earth.According to data from Mount Wilson Observatory, UCLA, more than an entire month has passed without a spot. The last time such an event occurred was June of 1913. Sunspot data has been collected since 1749.In the past 1000 years, three previous such events -- the Dalton, Maunder, and Spörer Minimums, have all led to rapid cooling. On was large enough to be called a "mini ice age". For a society dependent on agriculture, cold is more damaging than heat. The growing season shortens, yields drop, and the occurrence of crop-destroying frosts increases.Read more: www.dailytech.com/Sun+Makes+History+First+Spotless+Mont... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------If this causes a short term cooling of the Earth, then I see a couple of major problems. First, it will provide more ammunition for Anthro-Global Warming skeptics. Second, when the sun spots do reappear combined with the greenhouse gases, think how much the temperature will jump.
MaineDem (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-01-08 04:00 PMResponse to Original message 2. This is major Very important observations. L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-01-08 04:52 PMResponse to Original message 10. Oregon Coast blackberries are not ready yet, a month late Local gardeners are very unhappy this year.Commercial chantrelle hunters will be happy early. sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-01-08 05:52 PMResponse to Original message 18. they forgot the real consequences.FAMINE, STARVATION.while we turn the food that'd save into alcohol BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-01-08 05:33 PMResponse to Original message 15. But even if the earth actually cools down a bit, it won't affect the level of pollution in the air.. and rapid destruction of our breathable atmosphere. bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-01-08 05:25 PMResponse to Reply #3 13. You're forgetting that we (homo sapiens) have lived through ice ages Even simple technology can deal with too little heat. Dealing with too little heat is MUCH easier than dealing with too much: living creatures are heat engines. We can heat our own living space merely by living, if it's sufficiently insulated. What we can't do is get rid of excess heat. Nobody ever gets "coldstroke" or "cold exhaustion". Local frostbite on long-exposed skin, yes, but we don't suffer systemic collapse from cold the way we do from heat.
There's a reason why patriotism is considered a conservative value. Watch a Tea Party rally and you'll see people proudly raising the American flag and showing pride in U.S. heroes such as Thomas Jefferson. Watch an OWS rally and you'll see people burning the American flag while showing pride in communist heroes such as Che Guevera. --Bob, from some news site
Got that? Global cooling is caused by a fireball in the sky, 93 million miles away. Global warming is caused by George W. Bush.
I'm still trying to figure out how man made global warming is melting the ice caps on Mars. Now they want to talk about global colling? I Iz confuzed. :banghead:
Nobody ever gets "coldstroke" or "cold exhaustion". Local frostbite on long-exposed skin, yes, but we don't suffer systemic collapse from cold the way we do from heat.
QuoteNobody ever gets "coldstroke" or "cold exhaustion". Local frostbite on long-exposed skin, yes, but we don't suffer systemic collapse from cold the way we do from heat.This is one of the stupidest things ever written.
Quote from: Lord Undies on September 01, 2008, 07:31:45 PMQuoteNobody ever gets "coldstroke" or "cold exhaustion". Local frostbite on long-exposed skin, yes, but we don't suffer systemic collapse from cold the way we do from heat.This is one of the stupidest things ever written. I read that and shook my head.Come up here in the middle of November-March if you don`t think cold is all that dangerous.Only a complete idiot would write such a thing,have they never heard of hypothermia?
If this causes a short term cooling of the Earth, then I see a couple of major problems. First, it will provide more ammunition for Anthro-Global Warming skeptics. Second, when the sun spots do reappear combined with the greenhouse gases, think how much the temperature will jump.
Even simple technology can deal with too little heat. Dealing with too little heat is MUCH easier than dealing with too much: living creatures are heat engines. We can heat our own living space merely by living, if it's sufficiently insulated.
L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-01-08 04:52 PMResponse to Original message10. Oregon Coast blackberries are not ready yet, a month late Local gardeners are very unhappy this year.Commercial chantrelle hunters will be happy early.
QuoteL. Coyote (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-01-08 04:52 PMResponse to Original message10. Oregon Coast blackberries are not ready yet, a month late Local gardeners are very unhappy this year.Commercial chantrelle hunters will be happy early. I'm about 50 miles inland and I can't keep up! I've got blackberries coming out my ears. I can't pick/sell them fast enough. Today my husband and I picked APPLES...the first of September...earliest we've EVER done this. Just from ONE tree, the rest are right on schedule. Still I thought for sure it was global warming making a very few things ripen a week or so faster than before. Then again, what do I know...could be global cooling. Guess I won't know for sure until next week...that's when I'm killing my meat birds...I'll have to wait until then to read their entrails...it's the ONLY way to know what's really going on.Cindie
I'm still trying to figure out how man made global warming is melting the ice caps on Mars. Now they want to talk about global colling? I Iz confuzed.
We sent SUV's (rovers) to Mars.