http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3834833Oh my.
The Obamaite primitives have been sharply condemnatory of the Senate Majority Leader today.
Perhaps the Obamaite primitives don't understand he's on their side, not ours.
oberliner (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-21-08 09:32 PM
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Reid on Lieberman: "No matter what it is, he's always with us. He just does not vote right on Iraq."
Full quote:
"All my close votes, he's always with me, whether it's the budget or energy issues," Reid said. "No matter what it is, he's always with us. He just does not vote right on Iraq. ... Why would I want to throw away a good vote?"
http://blogs.courant.com/capitol_watch/2008/08/reid-sti...
marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-21-08 09:33 PM
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1. I don't know whether to laugh or cry......Reid is useless.
The marmalade primitive just doesn't understand how good Harry is.
Harry's surely caused a lot of problems for George Bush and for Republicans; now, isn't that what he's supposed to do?
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-21-08 09:42 PM
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10. Reid's working hard at selling out Democratic values since day one and from Congress' approval polls, he's done a heck of a job. Takes a lot to earn approval rating even lower than Bush.
MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-21-08 09:36 PM
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2. Reid.Must.Go.
It's a lot more than just counting votes on the fingers of one hand. Lieberman is a quisling. Sucking up to him makes dems look spineless and unprincipled.
Looking spineless and unprincipled is exactly what costs us elections even when dem policies are sound.
Character matters, Harry!
bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-21-08 09:37 PM
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3. "dems look spineless and unprincipled."
I'm sorry to have to tell you this... it ain't just looks.
One wonders if the bobbling primitive's seen the news about the primitive meet-up in Denver for the Democrat convention. She should check it out; the primitives might even pay her meal tab.
JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-21-08 09:37 PM
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4. This answers the question:
"Senator Reid, in 45 words or less, could you describe why you shouldn't be Majority Leader?"
If the Democrats retain the U.S. Senate, I suspect Harry's job as Majority Leader is pretty secure.
Phredicles (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-21-08 09:38 PM
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5. You mean like for investigating what went wrong during Katrina?
Of course, that wasn't a vote; that was just preventing anything that might lead to a vote from taking place.
Some of the time I've spent slagging Pelosi should definitely have gone to slagging Reid. Worthless ****.
tannybogus Donating Member (723 posts) Thu Aug-21-08 09:39 PM
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6. What is wrong with Reid???
Are he and Joe BFF???
The first part of that quote is creepy."No matter what it is, he's always with us." Sounds like Joe is either God or mold.
OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-21-08 09:39 PM
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7. Spineless bastard!!
notsodumbhillbilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-21-08 09:40 PM
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8. "...he's always with us."
"us" is DLC. Of course Lieberman is always with them.
Hmmm. Methinks the dumb hillbilly primitive should check to see who established, and who finances, Skins's island.
And there's a very good reason the Democrat Leadership Council does that.
And here, a lone voice of reason, although to the primitives, the Fat Che in the punchbowl:
mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-21-08 09:41 PM
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9. I agree
We are better off with the big tent
Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-21-08 10:09 PM
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15. Do Not Agree
Although I agree that Lieberman actually has a very good voting record generally--always for women's rights, equal pay, abortion rights, gun control, alternative energy, school programs, such as Head Start and better lunches, more progressive tax system, unemployment benefits, poverty programs, etc.--and so I don't totally hate Lieberman the way many people here do, the things I really hate are the way Lieberman constantly undercuts Democrats for Republicans publicly, with comments about how supposedly vicious and partisan Democrats are, "politically correct," that stupid phrase, and now, speaking at the Republican convention, which is sickening to me. It is not "bi-partisan," that overrated pipe dream; it is a deliberate slap in the face. I also don't agree with your idea that this makes it a "big tent," unless you believe that Republicans/conservatives/neocons are the majority, which they clearly are not.
When Democrats retook Congress, 2006, with calls for real reform, getting rid of corporate lobbyists, etc., their poll/approval numbers were sky-high. The more they capitulated, caved, trembled afraid of Republicans, and told us how much they liked them and how they were going to work with them, their numbers crashed, to exactly the same level as Bush and Cheney's, and Republicans' generally. That is not opening up to a wider, larger audience or population; it is narrowing down to one. The mainstream, general population is mildly liberal; it is not corporate Republican--the more we fight them, the more the American people will rally to us.
Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-21-08 09:45 PM
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11. I think the Bush crime family has some really nasty sex tapes of certain Dems.
That, or some dirty financial dealings that could land them in the pokey.
gbrooks (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-21-08 09:46 PM
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12. Hey it's just Iraq, the biggest Corporate/Military ripoff in history, which is bankrupting the US.
No biggy.
Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-21-08 09:47 PM
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13. and when he speaks at the GOP convention?
will that show how much he is always with you?
When he gets up to speak and talks of how his party left him so he started a new party....will that show how much he is always with you?
When he speaks of how much better for the country the GOP candidate is over the Democratic candidate...will that show how much he is always with you?
When he speaks of policy matters that McCain would be ever so much better on than Obama....will that show how much he is always with you?
When he speaks on how it must seem strange that he's speaking at the GOP convention but how he simply must follow his conscience and speak for what's best for America......will that show how much he is always with you?
and if by some fluke McCain becomes president and Lieberman is rewarded with a cabinet position....will that show how much he is always with you?
I dunno. Didn't Benjamin Hooks--a black Democrat, president of the ultra-left-wing National Urban League--make a major address at the Republican National Convention of 1980? Anybody besides franksolich remember that?
Conventions should, really, have more of this sort of thing, but one suspects the Democrats wouldn't be too happy about Newt Gingrich making a major address at the Democrat National Convention.
The loutish Brit makes a comment, but because the loutist Brit is a British subject, and not an American citizen, his opinion on American politics is irrelevant, not worth copying-and-pasting.
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-21-08 10:14 PM
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16. So . . . we've just waited two years to see Reid/Pelosi do something . . .
and it's only NOW becoming clear that they are useless --- ????
I think we could have noticed that a while back --- ????
Now . . . is this a betrayal by Democrats yet --- ????
Anyone want to acknowledge that --- ????
