Is it NORMAL for Freepers to stalk people?

[Miss Mia]

ck4829  (1000+ posts)
Wed Aug-13-08 05:11 PM
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Is it NORMAL for Freepers to stalk people?
   
Julie Hiatt Steele

* In 1999, Julie Hiatt Steele was taking credit-card donations to help pay her legal bills after being charged with obstruction by Ken Starr. When freepers heard of this, they decided to flood her site with illegal fake donations, this was at a cost of around $4,000 for her. (1)

Bar employee in Austin, Texas

* In 2001, members of Free Republic were found to be planning to go to war against a bar employee who called the police when she found that Jenna Bush presented her with what was clearly a fake ID. (1)
* Items posted included her address, date of birth, driver's license number, physical description - and information about her infant child. (1)
* Members of Free Republic suggested to use the information for identity theft, running up massive debts in her name, constant surveillance, to "make this chick paranoid," "go to the bar and pour drinks on her," "pour acid all over the bar," "phone police repeatedly to make phony reports of suspicious activities at her home," and to "set the place on fire while fully occupied." (1)

Tom Connolly

* Connolly sent a fax of George W. Bush's DUI conviction to the media, in retaliation, members of Free Republic sent him magazine subscriptions and other things. One even said that "it might be in order to wipe the smile off of this clown's face." (10)

Andy Stephenson

* In 2005, voting rights activist Andy Stephenson was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. He needed $50,000 so he could receive a lifesaving operation. Friends and allies were able to do this, quickly raising the cash he needed. (2)
* A conservative backlash came soon after, it is not known if Free Republic was the source of it all, but it was one of the war rooms where they launched their campaign against Mr. Stephenson. Specifically, the backlash was to go around and claim that Stephenson was not really sick and that he was participating in fraudulent activities. (2)
* The service Stephenson used to collect the money listened to these allegations and didn't know what to do, they had locked his account, denying him the operation when he needed it.
* On July 7, 2005, Stephenson died from complications related to the surgery and the cancer. (3)

Graeme Frost

* In October of 2007, members of Free Republic had posted information about Graeme Frost, the little boy who had given the rebuttal to one of Bush's radio addresses. (4)(5)(6)(7)
* Information included addresses, maps, photos, information about the house the Frost family lived in, and what school the Frost children went to. (4)(5)(6)(7)

Activities of Chad Castagana

* While not a campaign by members of Free Republic, but rather the actions of one man, Chad Castagana, who was a member of the group, was found to be sending fake anthrax letters to leaders of the Democratic Party and to members of the media. (8)
http://rw-infopedia.pbwiki.com/Stalking-by-members-of-Free-Republic

It's a new thread, but I expect the inclusion of Andy will make it booming soon enough. 

[asdf2231]

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ck4829 (1000+ posts)       Wed Aug-13-08 06:11 PM
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Is it NORMAL for Freepers to stalk people?
 Advertisements [?]Julie Hiatt Steele

* In 1999, Julie Hiatt Steele was taking credit-card donations to help pay her legal bills after being charged with obstruction by Ken Starr. When freepers heard of this, they decided to flood her site with illegal fake donations, this was at a cost of around $4,000 for her. (1)

Bar employee in Austin, Texas

* In 2001, members of Free Republic were found to be planning to go to war against a bar employee who called the police when she found that Jenna Bush presented her with what was clearly a fake ID. (1)
* Items posted included her address, date of birth, driver's license number, physical description - and information about her infant child. (1)
* Members of Free Republic suggested to use the information for identity theft, running up massive debts in her name, constant surveillance, to "make this chick paranoid," "go to the bar and pour drinks on her," "pour acid all over the bar," "phone police repeatedly to make phony reports of suspicious activities at her home," and to "set the place on fire while fully occupied." (1)

Tom Connolly

* Connolly sent a fax of George W. Bush's DUI conviction to the media, in retaliation, members of Free Republic sent him magazine subscriptions and other things. One even said that "it might be in order to wipe the smile off of this clown's face." (10)

Andy Stephenson

* In 2005, voting rights activist Andy Stephenson was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. He needed $50,000 so he could receive a lifesaving operation. Friends and allies were able to do this, quickly raising the cash he needed. (2)
* A conservative backlash came soon after, it is not known if Free Republic was the source of it all, but it was one of the war rooms where they launched their campaign against Mr. Stephenson. Specifically, the backlash was to go around and claim that Stephenson was not really sick and that he was participating in fraudulent activities. (2)
* The service Stephenson used to collect the money listened to these allegations and didn't know what to do, they had locked his account, denying him the operation when he needed it.
* On July 7, 2005, Stephenson died from complications related to the surgery and the cancer. (3)

Graeme Frost

* In October of 2007, members of Free Republic had posted information about Graeme Frost, the little boy who had given the rebuttal to one of Bush's radio addresses. (4)(5)(6)(7)
* Information included addresses, maps, photos, information about the house the Frost family lived in, and what school the Frost children went to. (4)(5)(6)(7)

Activities of Chad Castagana

* While not a campaign by members of Free Republic, but rather the actions of one man, Chad Castagana, who was a member of the group, was found to be sending fake anthrax letters to leaders of the Democratic Party and to members of the media. (8)

http://rw-infopedia.pbwiki.com/Stalking-by-members-of-F...

lwfern  (1000+ posts)       Wed Aug-13-08 06:13 PM
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1. I am not sure you can say it's normal for all members.
 But it is accurate to say it's tolerated and condoned by the administrators of the website.

sfexpat2000  (1000+ posts)        Wed Aug-13-08 06:14 PM
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Yes, the freepers killed Andy. They delayed his surgery for two weeks
 Edited on Wed Aug-13-08 06:18 PM by sfexpat2000
and then delayed his rehab for another two weeks. They're murderous idiots with keyboards.

ETA: I forgot ignorant, perverted and deluded self-serving sink scum who will go straight to their freeper hell.

Dougs Ex Wife is striving hard to maintain her Queen Of All Jackasses role...

 

proud2Blib  (1000+ posts)       Wed Aug-13-08 06:14 PM
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2. Sure looks like typical Freeper behavior to me. 
 They also stalk the Code Pinkers who vigil in front of Walter Reed in DC.

 



 

Bluebear  (1000+ posts)       Wed Aug-13-08 06:15 PM
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3. Yes, but they call it being "Patriots"

 

[asdf2231]

Thanks for the merge Wretch!

[Chris_]

The geese hate sauce.

And this is old, old, old.

And the Walter Reed pinkos don't get "stalked."  They get photographed and exposed, but not stalked.

FR is on my shit list but the reality is their work at Walter Reed is true patriotism at its highest level.

[Wretched Excess]

LOL!  I think that is the closest in time that I have ever seen dupe threads posted before.

merged.

[asdf2231]

LOL!  I think that is the closest in time that I have ever seen dupe threads posted before.

merged.

Great minds and all that.

[Wretched Excess]

Thanks for the merge Wretch!

I live to serve.

[djones520]

Don't think it's a freeper thing, but the only person whose ever stalked me (cyber stalking) was a rabid right wing nut ball.

[Miss Mia]

LOL!  I think that is the closest in time that I have ever seen dupe threads posted before.

merged.

Yes, but I was here first!  LOL!

Thanks for the merge. 

[PatriotGame]

Michelle Malkin....

[delilahmused]

proud2Blib  (1000+ posts)       Wed Aug-13-08 06:14 PM
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2. Sure looks like typical Freeper behavior to me.
 They also stalk the Code Pinkers who vigil in front of Walter Reed in DC.

So Code Pink holds a protest outside a military hospital where they can be seen by injured soldiers and their families and they're merely exercising their free speech rights. A group organizes a counter protest and they're stalking...got it.

Cindie

PS...Oh, and Beth...keep repeating that lie over and over again you delusional bitch...maybe if you say it often enough it will become true.

[franksolich]

PS...Oh, and Beth...keep repeating that lie over and over again you delusional bitch...maybe if you say it often enough it will become true.

Oh now, madam, remember Doug's ex-wife's mental state.

The more her brain mushes, the more she's going to cling to this story.

I assume that when it comes time for her to be institutionalized, and it's inevitable she'll be institutionalized sooner or later, this lie'll be one of the examples used to demonstrate her utter mental incompetence.

[Vagabond]

proud2Blib  (1000+ posts)       Wed Aug-13-08 06:14 PM
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2. Sure looks like typical Freeper behavior to me.
 They also stalk the Code Pinkers who vigil in front of Walter Reed in DC.

So Code Pink holds a protest outside a military hospital where they can be seen by injured soldiers and their families and they're merely exercising their free speech rights. A group organizes a counter protest and they're stalking...got it.

Cindie

PS...Oh, and Beth...keep repeating that lie over and over again you delusional bitch...maybe if you say it often enough it will become true.

If Beth wants to know who is most responsible living person, between Andy's diagnosis and his surgery, she need only locate the nearest mirror.

[Vagabond]

ck4829  (1000+ posts)
Wed Aug-13-08 05:11 PM
Original message
Is it NORMAL for Freepers to stalk people?
   
* In 2001, members of Free Republic were found to be planning to go to war against a bar employee who called the police when she found that Jenna Bush presented her with what was clearly a fake ID. (1)  No they weren't.  I was there by that time and this is false.  Besides, it isn't like Laura is the first or only college student to try and buy booze.
* Items posted included her address, date of birth, driver's license number, physical description - and information about her infant child. (1) Proof?
* Members of Free Republic suggested to use the information for identity theft, running up massive debts in her name, constant surveillance, to "make this chick paranoid," "go to the bar and pour drinks on her," "pour acid all over the bar," "phone police repeatedly to make phony reports of suspicious activities at her home," and to "set the place on fire while fully occupied." (1) Proof?

Tom Connolly

* Connolly sent a fax of George W. Bush's DUI conviction to the media, in retaliation, members of Free Republic sent him magazine subscriptions and other things. One even said that "it might be in order to wipe the smile off of this clown's face." (10) Let me get this straight, this guy was the Democrat's October surprise, I was not at FR for this but I can understand the frustration at the dirty pool being played.

Andy Stephenson Aw geez, not this shit again!

* In 2005, voting rights activist Andy Stephenson was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. He needed $50,000 so he could receive a lifesaving operation. Friends and allies were able to do this, quickly raising the cash he needed. (2)  Without setting up a clear account tagged to recieve donations to send him to "only the best hospital" all the way across the country when he had two perfectly good ones who would have taken him on at the expense of the state of Washington much sooner.
* A conservative backlash came soon after, it is not known if Free Republic was the source of it all, but it was one of the war rooms where they launched their campaign against Mr. Stephenson. Specifically, the backlash was to go around and claim that Stephenson was not really sick and that he was participating in fraudulent activities. (2) Yes, this was so questionable that even Will Pitt wondered about it.  Andy's friends did not take care of legalities, that caused the questions from all corners, hardly only "Freepers"
* The service Stephenson used to collect the money listened to these allegations and didn't know what to do, they had locked his account, denying him the operation when he needed it.  Could have had it performed at the expense of the State of Washington, didn't follow legalities, felt the need to cross the country to get medical service, had methods to fund this operation himself if need be, perhaps they thought it looked like a scam, ya think?
* On July 7, 2005, Stephenson died from complications related to the surgery and the cancer. (3)  He died from a Staph infection, plain and simple.  Think about that a moment.  SFexpat2000 insisted that he have "only the best medical care" unlike the rest of the proletariat under her socialized medicine and he died of infection that he could have gotten at any hospital.  

Graeme Frost

* In October of 2007, members of Free Republic had posted information about Graeme Frost, the little boy who had given the rebuttal to one of Bush's radio addresses. (4)(5)(6)(7)
* Information included addresses, maps, photos, information about the house the Frost family lived in, and what school the Frost children went to. (4)(5)(6)(7)
The Democrats put this child up to push for the socialization of the medical system.  FReepers merely looked into the claims this kid was making and found they were bogus.  That's politics and research not stalking.

Activities of Chad Castagana

* While not a campaign by members of Free Republic, but rather the actions of one man, Chad Castagana, who was a member of the group, was found to be sending fake anthrax letters to leaders of the Democratic Party and to members of the media. (8) Never heard he was a member of Free Republic.
http://rw-infopedia.pbwiki.com/Stalking-by-members-of-Free-Republic

It's a new thread, but I expect the inclusion of Andy will make it booming soon enough. 

[franksolich]

You might as well give up on Doug's ex-wife's delusions, Miss Mia.

The fund-raiser, so-called, started at 3:00 p.m. central time, 2:00 p.m. mountain time, April 28, 2005.

The alleged beneficiary of the alleged funds had been diagnosed with terminal pancreatic cancer in February 2005, perhaps getting hints about it as early as December 2004.

The alleged beneficiary of the alleged funds was treated for pancreatic cancer in late winter-early spring 2005, in Seattle, such treatment being stop-gap and temporary in nature.

The alleged beneficiary of the alleged funds by all appearances in real life, accepted his fate with equanimity.

The alleged beneficiary of the alleged funds took a trip to the eastern states in late April-early May 2005 (about the time the fund-raiser, so-called, got underway) pretty much as a "farewell tour" to say goodbye to friends, such as the Leona Helmsley of Dummieland, the flyarm primitive, at her opulent Streisandian estate in New Jersey.

Because of the strenuousness of the trip, the alleged beneficiary of the alleged funds contracted a serious infection, leading to his sudden return to Seattle in June 2005.  "Infection" was the primary cause of death, "pancreatic cancer" being the tertiary cause of death (I forget at the moment what the secondary cause was).

The only unsolved mystery about the alleged beneficiary of the alleged funds is how he managed to stay looking so robust, so hale and hearty, until early June 2005--highly unusual in such cases of cancer--but perhaps the alleged beneficiary of the alleged funds possessed an extraordinary constitution.

(This was what led to the natural skepticism of many, and it was an eminently reasonable skepticism.)

Nothing near the funds as alleged by the stupidest person on the whole entire internet, Doug's ex-wife, was ever raised, and it is possible the bulk of those monies came from "freepers" with a misplaced sense of compassion.

Doug's ex-wife used to know the rationale for, and the details behind, the fund-raiser, so-called, but with her continued mental deterioration, it's all scrambled up in her mush-like cerebral mass now.

My own guess is that it was some half-baked, half-assed, "plan" to get back at, to embarrass, a former employer of the alleged beneficiary of the alleged funds.

The whole thing was pretty stupid, possibly the most stupid thing to have ever occurred on the internet.

[asdf2231]

easttexaslefty  (436 posts)        Wed Aug-13-08 07:28 PM
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13. don't know if it's normal
 but was sure done to us. We had a weekly halliburton protest here in Texas. They tried to run us down, threw things at us, and yes they were freepers, they were the same ones that harassed us by standing in front of us with their signs, and pushing us. they also hacked the peace center's web-site. Police knew..they were at the protests, they cheered them on

Mabus  (1000+ posts)       Wed Aug-13-08 07:39 PM
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16. Their leaders encourage it
 From Rush Limbaugh calling Daschle "El Diablo" during much of 2001 to McCain equating Obama with the anti-christ, the freepers (and their ilk) demonize anyone who doesn't fall in line and repeat their mantras. Once they see us as less human than they are it all becomes a game. Unfortunately, it is a game they've taken off-line.

 

riverdeep  (1000+ posts)     Wed Aug-13-08 08:45 PM
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19. When I try to tell people what they're dealing with, they don't believe me.
 They think I'm over the top, that I've just spent to much time in alternative media and have become paranoid. This stuff isn't an anomaly, this is the heart and soul of the Republican party. Think about Rove and how from the beginning of his miserable career he did the same things. How they break every single law to get what they want, or just rewrite it until the illegal is legal. Sure, there are good Republicans, but the movers and shakers are scum, and so are many many followers.

We are in a viscous streetfight, and they're trying to spill your blood, what will you do?

 

yardwork  (1000+ posts)      Wed Aug-13-08 09:41 PM
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22. Operatives paid by the White House use Free Republic to organize dirty tricks.
 There are a number of law firms in Atlanta and elsewhere that function as public relations arms for the White House. They include people like Buckhead who posts on FR. Buckhead was the point man for taking down Dan Rather with the fake documents trick. FR is part of a network of well-funded, well-organized operatives that part of bushco's army. They spread lies on the internet, stalk people, destroy people's lives, plan "riots" to disrupt lawful activities like the 2000 recount in Florida...yes, it's normal operating business for people on Free Republic to stalk people and more.

 

eridani  (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-14-08 03:40 AM
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29. Except that the documents were never established as fake
 They were never established as original either, of course, because as CBS researcher Mary Mapes pointed out, it is flat out impossible to do that with xeroxed`copies. She regarded them as strictly secondary evidence, and every one of the points that Rather made was corroborated by documents which were established to be genuine. She had the uncorroborated material as part of the document collection because she could not find a single contradiction in them when compared to documents established as genuine.

What the freepers did was to successfully make the secondary documents the entire story.

I BELIEEEEEEEEEEVE!!!!!

mopinko  (1000+ posts)        Thu Aug-14-08 12:37 AM
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24. my local freepers do. they tracked my here, and posted my posts from 
 the mental health forum on the local blog. outed me. pointed out where the alderman's son went to high school. took pictures of his house in the afternoon, when the kid (16) was home alone. and recently posted photographs of the alderman's garbage.
they call the alderman, and anyone who supports him all manner of names. make shit up. one of the alderman's staff is a large woman, that they stalked her, took pictures and posted them under the heading of "whale watching". but they freak out when anyone takes pictures of them.
sadly, i could go on. but i am tired.

WTF is this wall licker going on about?

Gato Moteado  (1000+ posts)      Thu Aug-14-08 12:59 AM
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26. hey mo.....there are freepers in chicago?
 i was born in chicago and you can't get your water turned on there unless you're a democrat. and that's the way it should be.

i left in 1990 and i don't remember any freeptards. are they living out in the burbs?

next time i go home for a visit, we'll have to hook up again with the other chicago DUers and have a tar and feather party with any chicago land area freepfilth and run the scum out of town.

by the way...i bet freeptards put ketchup on a chicago dog so they'd be easy to identify. 

 

Gato Moteado  (1000+ posts)      Thu Aug-14-08 01:01 AM
Response to Original message  ....but they did it from the safety of their trailer parks. they're too cowardly
27. yeah, they definitely killed andy......
to face us in person. i'm not sure why we never got a team of lawyers to imprison the human garbage there that were responsible for andy's death.

Ah but William Drink Me A River Pitts was going to unleash his finely honed Ninja Monkey Lawyers on those responsible wasn't he?

[delilahmused]

I don't know what's more pathetic...their misplaced self-importance, paranoia or desperation. Just who the hell do they think their 3-person protests affect? Those in their party who know of them are embarrassed by them and those of us on the right who follow their antics just laugh. They're like a combination of Sam Kinison, Joseph Stalin, Britney Spears, and your average tantrum throwing 2 year old. And that's on a good when they've taken their meds.

Cindie

[Miss Mia]

Frank, I know the whole story about Andy.  I know that the "Freepers" didn't kill him.  He could have gotten the same procedure done earlier and much cheaper/free in his home state.

The whole thing sounded fine at first, until you started to think about it and then it did sound fishy.  Even DUers were worried there was some type of scam going on. 

[Ree]

I think all the DUmmies who had "doubts" have been TS'd......So now their little fantasy is fact in their mushy little minds...

[Miss Mia]

I think all the DUmmies who had "doubts" have been TS'd......So now their little fantasy is fact in their mushy little minds...

Will Pitt is still around. 

[delilahmused]

I think all the DUmmies who had "doubts" have been TS'd......So now their little fantasy is fact in their mushy little minds...

Will Pitt is still around. 

For whatever reason Will drank the kool-aid and became one of the more rabid supporters. Even made some not so veiled threats that he was too impotent to carry out.

Cindie

[asdf2231]

I think all the DUmmies who had "doubts" have been TS'd......So now their little fantasy is fact in their mushy little minds...

Will Pitt is still around. 

For whatever reason Will drank the kool-aid and became one of the more rabid supporters. Even made some not so veiled threats that he was too impotent to carry out.

Cindie

Oh no you dinnint!!!

 

[Rebel]

Is anyone really missing what they truly want? They want us all silenced. It's all those ****ing Communists think about. We're not supposed to talk or go against the Borg.

[Lord Undies]

Frank, I know the whole story about Andy.  I know that the "Freepers" didn't kill him.  He could have gotten the same procedure done earlier and much cheaper/free in his home state.

The whole thing sounded fine at first, until you started to think about it and then it did sound fishy.  Even DUers were worried there was some type of scam going on. 

That's part of the DU refried history.  DU was downright nasty to the Andy folks.  It was venemous!  But now, that has been removed from the history books and it was just the awful FREEPERS who KILLED ANDY!

Whatever.   

All their DUmbass nasty has been saved.  They can lie but they cannot hide. 

[PatriotGame]

ck4829  (1000+ posts)
Wed Aug-13-08 05:11 PM
Original message
Is it NORMAL for Freepers to stalk people?

My understanding is yes and no. Only Freepers from the Freeper stalking departments are allowed to stalk people because only they have the proper training and stalker uniforms.
Freepers from other departments such as arts & crafts, cooking, and the needle point are strictly forbidden from stalking.