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primitive gets a freezer
« on: January 06, 2017, 07:26:16 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10931273

Oh my.

I watched as the bettyellen primitive, who lied on behalf of the late red round one during the scam that rocked the internet twelve years ago, bitched and moaned and complained because the governor telephoned the president-incoming and not the president-outgoing re: the massacre down there.

Surely the bitch doesn't expect Obozo to do anything about it.

So.....I went and found this instead.

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PennyK (1,126 posts)     Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:35 AM

I'm getting my first freezer
 
From Sears. I wanted the upright kind and frost-free for sure.

Any and all tips you can give me about how to best take advantage of this resource? How to best store stuff, markers that work for the freezer, things I can freeze that I might not know about. I already read that ice cream shouldn't be kept in the door (that warms up quickest when it's opened).

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Kali (43,172 posts)      Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:44 AM

1. use ziplocks to seal everything - frost free isn't the perfect feature many think it is
 
it tends to suck all moisture out of things and cause freezer burn worse than regular glacier forming freezers.

whatever labeling system you use, make an effort every year to spend a few weeks using up all that stuff you got on sale and haven't used yet. otherwise the more full you keep it the better it works - use jugs of water to fill space when your stock of food is lower.

dedicate the coldest spot to freezing new stuff, meat or food you have cooked. don't crowd that until it is good and frozen.

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TreasonousBastard (28,048 posts)      Thu Jan 5, 2017, 11:11 AM

2. Well, you don't really want your ice cream rock hard when you...
 
want to eat it, do you? The doors are a little warmer than deep inside, but unless that ice cream is going to be around for years, well, something has to go in those doors...

Frost free means the sides heat up to melt the ice. that means anything touching the hot spots warms up, too. think about that when loading the thing. Most of the time nothing happens, but I have had strange spots on chicken thighs and boxes of spinach.

I have a chest freezer for long term storage, and it works great. Freeze the veggies I've been buying or growing all summer. Meats on sale. Frozen veggies on sale... Bread! Bagels! Cake!

Keeping it as full as possible, including water jugs when you don't have enough real stuff is always a good idea. However, calculating how much you spend in electricity freezing those jugs compared to how much on cold air flowing out of an unfilled freezer is guaranteed frustration. If the thing is normally full, I wouldn't throw jugs of water in there for a few days, but if it's normally half full, yes, fill it up with jugs. And remember that in the summer you can pull them out and as they melt you have ice water all day. You can also store bags of ice in there-- forget the refrigerator icemakers that break all the time.

Have fun with it-- it's just more options

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dixiegrrrrl (48,039 posts)      Thu Jan 5, 2017, 12:54 PM

3. Everything in teh 2 replies above
 
plus you will, or should, be getting a manual with the freezer that gives good tips.

I have had chest freezers for years. But got one I have to defrost because the frost free is exactly what Treasonous said...it sucks moisture out of the food and you have to use the food much sooner.

an upright is much more handy that the chest that you have to bend over into.

are you keeping it in the house, or an enclosed porch, or...?

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PennyK (1,126 posts)      Thu Jan 5, 2017, 03:14 PM

4. Garage
 
We've got tons of room and it just so happens that the Hubman just cleaned it all out and painted it. It'll be very convenient. I appreciate your warning about the drying-out, and I won't go overboard with long-term storage.

I love my fridge except for the (bottom) freezer; it's one big pull-out basket, and 1) it's overflowing, even though it's just the two of us, and 2) locating anything is torturous. I look forward to being able to stock up on bulkier item such as bread and my frozen popsicles when they're on sale, even get a few frozen pizzas for the guy. Room for frozen crab legs. And I'll be able to make chili and soups in bulk now!

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dixiegrrrrl (48,039 posts)      Thu Jan 5, 2017, 05:48 PM

5. Also,,,,a trick,,,,
 
You will be looking at a HUGE basket of stuff. What you cook up and freeze will be hard to find later--trust me on this--unless you develop a marking system so you can see something at a glance.

I put the same stuff in a plastic grocery bag, so I can bend down and grab the handles and pull up everything.

If you can find colored tape, you can make a code of one color for meat, one for veggies, one for left-overs or made up ahead etc. tied around teh handles.

I have enough room in our freezer to put bags into open top boxes, so like items stay together. ( thank you Amazon for the boxes).

And DATE what you put in, cause you won't be able to tell if something is really dried out until you thaw it, and often that is too late.

I use large yogurt containers to put servings of soup, fried rice, etc, one container holds enough for 1.5 servings in our house.

And I have plastic containers saved from take out, they hold one meal serving, all I have to do is micro-wave.

If you lose power, stuff stays frozen for about 3 days, esp. if you have frozen water jugs in the freezer. Don't lift the lid unless you have to before the power comes on.

Lastly, any food that does thaw needs to be eaten, if good, or tossed, if questionable.

Crock pot and large freezer are life savers.....have fun!

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PennyK (1,126 posts)    Fri Jan 6, 2017, 10:36 AM

6. One thing I will get
 
I'll run down to Lowe's and get a freezer thermometer so I can adjust my temperature. I already picked up freezer zip locks in quart and gallon sizes.

My mother will be visiting me in two weeks, she's had a freezer for ages, and I know she'll have lots of tips for me. That woman is an ultimate homemaker (I must've taken after my father)...now, if I could only get her to try the Magic eraser!

<<<remembers how badly the hippywife primitive Mrs. Alfred Packer wanted a chest freezer, but hippyhubby Wild Bill wouldn't get one for her because if the power went out--apparently they didn't pay their monthly electric bill regularly--the food stashed in it'd be ruined.

Anyway, that was hippyhubby Wild Bill's excuse.
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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2017, 07:38:49 PM »
I thought they were all barely able to afford bread and water?

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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2017, 07:56:21 PM »
Dear DU,

I just got a pair of sneakers, the kind that have shoe laces. Since this is my first pair of shoes with laces I'm wondering if you super smart people know how they work. I know once I get them tied i can slip my feet in and out without retying but what if they become untied? Also should i wear socks with these lace up sneakers.

My mother has been wearing shoes with laces for years but this is my first pair. Any help you can give me until she flies out to help me is appreciated.

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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2017, 08:30:57 PM »
Dear DU,

I just got a pair of sneakers, the kind that have shoe laces. Since this is my first pair of shoes with laces I'm wondering if you super smart people know how they work. I know once I get them tied i can slip my feet in and out without retying but what if they become untied? Also should i wear socks with these lace up sneakers.

My mother has been wearing shoes with laces for years but this is my first pair. Any help you can give me until she flies out to help me is appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2017, 09:34:32 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10931273

Oh my.

I watched as the bettyellen primitive, who lied on behalf of the late red round one during the scam that rocked the internet twelve years ago, bitched and moaned and complained because the governor telephoned the president-incoming and not the president-outgoing re: the massacre down there.


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Ok Frank, you told me to ask so I have to...
I keep hearing references that you murdered some fat round red guy a long time ago. You have to give me some background links...  this one has me intrigued

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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2017, 09:37:30 PM »
I thought they were all barely able to afford bread and water?

Only a DUmmie would need INSTRUCTIONS on how to use a FREEZER.

OK, DUmmie:

1) Open door
2) Put stuff in
3) Close door

1) Open door
2) take stuff out
3) Close door

Oh, I left out step 4:

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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2017, 09:44:42 PM »
Only a DUmmie would need INSTRUCTIONS on how to use a FREEZER.

OK, DUmmie:

1) Open door
2) Put stuff in
3) Close door

1) Open door
2) take stuff out
3) Close door

Oh, I left out step 4:

Face East towards Kenya and praise your o lord on high obozo

You've got it all wrong man. Here are proper instruction for a DUmmy on how to use a freezer:

1)  plug in and let it get good and cold.
2) break off handle.
3) climb inside and shut door.

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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2017, 09:48:38 PM »
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Ok Frank, you told me to ask so I have to...
I keep hearing references that you murdered some fat round red guy a long time ago. You have to give me some background links...  this one has me intrigued

To keep a long story short, back in April 2005 a primitive needed a "whipple" sort of surgical procedure to deal with pancreatic cancer, and another primitive set up a fund-raiser on Skins's island to pay for it.

Yours truly persuaded Paypal to freeze the funds so the recipient couldn't get them, and also persuaded the surgeons at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore to not perform the operation.

The guy died.
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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2017, 09:50:25 PM »
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Ok Frank, you told me to ask so I have to...
I keep hearing references that you murdered some fat round red guy a long time ago. You have to give me some background links...  this one has me intrigued

No links, as this all was so long ago all the original stuff evaporated in crashes and somesuch.

But there's plenty here who saw it as it happened, and will be happy to verify.
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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2017, 09:51:23 PM »
To keep a long story short, back in April 2005 a primitive needed a "whipple" sort of surgical procedure to deal with pancreatic cancer, and another primitive set up a fund-raiser on Skins's island to pay for it.

Yours truly persuaded Paypal to freeze the funds so the recipient couldn't get them, and also persuaded the surgeons at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore to not perform the operation.

The guy died.

Something tells me there's a little more meat to that story.

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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2017, 09:58:07 PM »
Something tells me there's a little more meat to that story.

 :-)

Well, as others here will verify, that's a pretty good Reader's Digest condensed version.
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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2017, 04:39:57 AM »
Something tells me there's a little more meat to that story.

 :-)
It was a meltdown of epic proportions.  DUmmies turning on each other, funds that turned up missing ... it was truly spectacular.

Slightly longer version: Andy Stephenson lived in Seattle and was a big hero to the DUmmies who were so thoroughly convinced that W. had stolen the 2004 election.  He and his gay lover were neck-deep in DUmmie conspiracy crap about how the dreaded Diebold company had rigged voting machines all across the country to cast ballots for Bush when people were actually voting for Kerry.

Not too terribly long after the 2004 election, Andy announced that he had pancreatic cancer.  As memory serves, Andy had quit his job to work full-time on election conspiracy crap, and he couldn't be put onto his gay lover's insurance because the company he worked for in Seattle didn't recognize gay partnerships or something like that.  So, this very quickly took on the rallying cry for everything liberal: oppressed gays, socialized medicine, how horribly unfair ameriKKKa is, etc.

Soon, Andy announced that his only hope for living was a surgery called a "modified Whipple procedure," which, it was claimed, was only practiced at Johns Hopkins.  Since Andy didn't have any health insurance, Johns Hopkins had supposedly named a specific price of $50,000 and they would cruelly just let Andy die if he didn't cough up the money.  Promptly, a fund-raiser was started on DU, and DUmmies kicked in all sorts of money hither and yon.  People around the internet, most especially at FR and CU, grew suspicious in short order.

Before too terribly long, some more facts started coming out and the whole story started collapsing around Andy and his fundraising.  It turned out that there was a hospital literally blocks away from Andy's home in Seattle that had an excellent track record of performing this surgery, and they would gladly have done the procedure on Medicaid (for which Andy would have qualified if he were actually truthful about his financial situation, which he was not) or at a deeply discounted rate for someone who was indigent, with no need to travel to the other side of the country to Johns Hopkins.  Questions also arose about just how much money had actually been raised, where and how it had been spent, and indeed whether Johns Hopkins was actually insisting upon this $50K sum and not offering some sort of financial assistance.  It turned out that Andy and his gay lover had far more financial resources available to them than they had claimed (including a nearly paid-for home with a value near half a million dollars).  Some questioned whether Andy had cancer at all, as much of his claimed symptoms more closely resembled pancreatitis rather than cancer.  At some point it also came out that Andy's gay lover could have indeed added Andy to his health insurance policy (with no concerns about pre-existing conditions), but didn't want to spend another couple hundred dollars a month to do so.

As more and more whistles were blown about this apparent scam (at least in the sense that there was no need to go to Johns Hopkins and that Andy had plenty of money available for such a life-and-death situation), the DUmp went fully berserk.  Plenty of DUmmies started demanding refunds, or at least some level of accountability, which Andy and his fundraising minions dodged like crazy.  DUmmies then started threatening anyone and everyone who ever dared to question whether this fundraiser was a particularly bright move, either financially or medically.  The fundraiser, and subsequent questions and meltdowns, lasted for at least a solid six months, an eternity for someone to not get whatever treatment they can for an aggressive, fast-growing cancer. 

Interspersed amongst this chaos were regular treatises on DU about how none of this would be happening if we just had socialized medicine and if gay people weren't so horribly oppressed.  DUmmies screeched like banshees at anyone who questioned the veracity of the Andy Scam (as it quickly came to be known; I think Frank is credited with coining that phrase) and started insisting that the FBI was going to investigate and prosecute anyone who dared question Andy.  Meanwhile, Andy stubbornly refused to take the medical care that was readily available to him just a short walk from his own home, insisting that the only way he would survive is if he went to Johns Hopkins.



Ultimately, Andy sacrificed himself on the altar of socialized medicine, DUmmies insisted that any conservative who had ever used the internet during that time period would be prosecuted for first-degree murder and thrown in prison, there was even more of a general meltdown at DU, and in the end, nothing changed for anyone except that Andy died for nothing and a whole lot of moonbats got bilked out of a shit-ton of money: I'm pretty sure that I recall that Frank was able to document at some point something closer to $150K was raised, with no accounting of how it actually got spent.  Had Andy simply taken the medical care that was readily available to him when this cancer was discovered, he would likely still be alive today, but he chose to be a martyr for the moonbat agenda instead.

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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2017, 07:14:15 AM »
It was a meltdown of epic proportions.  DUmmies turning on each other, funds that turned up missing ... it was truly spectacular.
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 Had Andy simply taken the medical care that was readily available to him when this cancer was discovered, he would likely still be alive today, but he chose to be a martyr for the moonbat agenda instead.

I guess I had that all in my head already, that's usually how these scams go, just usually on a smaller scale.
As far as him still being alive...
If he really did have pancreatic cancer, I doubt any amount of money could have thrown that course. I've seen it a few times. Once you find it, the clock starts ticking double-time, poor bastards go down fast and painful. Not very many people survive it, regardless the amount of cash they have available.

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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2017, 08:43:37 AM »
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As far as him still being alive...
If he really did have pancreatic cancer, I doubt any amount of money could have thrown that course. I've seen it a few times. Once you find it, the clock starts ticking double-time, poor bastards go down fast and painful. Not very many people survive it, regardless the amount of cash they have available.

Concur. It is very uncommon or even rare for pancreatic cancer to be diagnosed/found in time to do more than putting one's house in order. One of my uncles had been wasting away for a year or more, with doctors working to figure out what was going on. The symptoms were too non-specific. Finally they tried exploratory surgery, and basically opened him up, saw what was what, and closed him up again. I think he lasted another 6-12 months. He died before seeing his older son graduate from high school.

I seriously doubt that "Andy" had any chance of survival. Sounds more like AndyScam was a scheme to leave some "inheritance" for his partner. And maybe evade inheritance taxes.
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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2017, 04:00:27 PM »
I guess I had that all in my head already, that's usually how these scams go, just usually on a smaller scale.
As far as him still being alive...
If he really did have pancreatic cancer, I doubt any amount of money could have thrown that course. I've seen it a few times. Once you find it, the clock starts ticking double-time, poor bastards go down fast and painful. Not very many people survive it, regardless the amount of cash they have available.

The ironic thing about all this was the procedure was a success. Had some pics of him in the hospital after the surgery. Then he died of an infection about a week or two after the surgery. I'm thinking it was complication from AIDS.   His personal buttplug, who went by the name of Termite I think it was, was another dummie. He quit posting shortly after that for some reason. Maybe he died of AIDS as well.
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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2017, 12:30:23 AM »
I guess I had that all in my head already, that's usually how these scams go, just usually on a smaller scale.
As far as him still being alive...
If he really did have pancreatic cancer, I doubt any amount of money could have thrown that course. I've seen it a few times. Once you find it, the clock starts ticking double-time, poor bastards go down fast and painful. Not very many people survive it, regardless the amount of cash they have available.
True enough.  I was basing that upon the medical data available at the time.  Apparently, his cancer was actually caught very early, and had he taken the surgery that was available to him at that moment at his local hospital, there was apparently something like a 96% five-year survival rate and an 89% ten-year survival rate.  Point being that the delay for fundraising absolutely ensured that he wouldn't survive, whereas he at least would have had a fighting chance had he acted right away.

Bear ye in mind that all of this is based upon fairly ancient memories, so it's entirely possible that I'm mis-remembering some of the data here.

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Re: primitive gets a freezer
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2017, 01:52:10 AM »
Only a DUmmie would need INSTRUCTIONS on how to use a FREEZER.

OK, DUmmie:

1) Open door
2) Put stuff in
3) Close door

1) Open door
2) take stuff out
3) Close door

Oh, I left out step 4:

Face East towards Kenya and praise your o lord on high obozo

Only thing I missed in the OP is when the govt. employee would come fill it for her..