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De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« on: July 18, 2016, 02:09:29 PM »
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De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future


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I'm fully aware that I don't have all the answers. I'm just trying to think toward a better future for our kids and grandkids. So here goes...

1. ANY POLICE or mass media who insist, outright or in so many euphemistic words, that police lives and work matter more than the lives and work of those their uniformed brothers kill -- those police and media purposely ignore the rage that comes from 300 years of trafficking, torture, slavery, murder, the Old and New Jim Crow.

Anyone who supports those police over black victims is a traitor to humanity -- not just this country -- in which genocide is constantly justified by all whites as fast as white supremacists can muster every new lie they can in order to keep the mass victims of this still-current history "calm." As Jesse Williams says, "...looking at the data ... we know that police somehow manage to deescalate, disarm and not kill white people everyday. So what’s going to happen is we are going to have equal rights and justice in our own country or we will restructure their function and ours..."

And now Mr. Cop or Mr. GOP in America wants the 'right' to spread his rage in mass media and political parties against BLM??

2. The "ALL" argument and the "both sides do it" argument are used by those of us who are either unconscious of -- or who purposely cover over -- the double standards behind police/black public/protester interactions and attitudes. That double standard is the standard of white supremacy.

THAT unconsciousness borders on evil.

3. NO WHITES may ever use the "FROM NOW ON" argument to say, "Oh, we must FROM NOW ON commit to giving equal treatment to everyone." They must not even say the phrase. That mindset treats unequals equally so that those actions historically harden, strengthen and further structuralize existing inequalities.

"From Now On" is how we got here.
"From Now On" lulls the "woke" back to sleep.
"From Now On" prolongs structurally caused human suffering.

"From Now On" can only exist when its mindset dismantles, abolishes The New Jim Crow, and current legal definitions of personhood and equality under American law.

Structured double standards of our police and mainstream media are white supremacy standards of enforcement that harden our insidious racist public narratives and New Jim Crow legal structures of this country's INjustice system.

4. Even “the work” from "within the system" won’t work. Working from "within" results in internal hierarchal conflict, stigmatizes the well-intentioned for all the meager improvements they make to alleviate structurally caused inequality and broader suffering. The "working within the system" timeline has passed its deadline for solving racism.

Whites have no excuses – no claims of innocence, ignorance or any of the other covers for their lazy disengagement. Their only hope as humans is to try to get on the right side of human history by engaging "the work" from where they now stand.

As the lives of black people go, so goes the history of America.

5. For a better future, “the work” has to be OUTside and BEside the system, monitoring and beleaguering that system at every turn, if work within the system is to succeed. Insidious racist language, ideas, social and media programming all must be challenged -- in oneself and others.

Conscious lawyers, teachers, police, parents and public -- ALL can help crumble, then restructure humanity so that "Liberté, Egalité, Sororité are the reality and better future for all continents' humans.

When ALL people see black people’s work as THEIR work – and they don’t yet -- then the proposition that “all lives matter” will never have to be said. It will be self evident.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028023109

That is a special kind of stupid right there.
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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2016, 02:13:48 PM »
Yeah they aren't fascists at all. /sarc
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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2016, 02:28:19 PM »
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De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future


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I'm fully aware that I don't have all the answers. I'm just trying to think toward a better future for our kids and grandkids. So here goes...

1. ANY POLICE or mass media who insist, outright or in so many euphemistic words, that police lives and work matter more than the lives and work of those their uniformed brothers kill -- those police and media purposely ignore the rage that comes from 300 years of trafficking, torture, slavery, murder, the Old and New Jim Crow.

Anyone who supports those police over black victims is a traitor to humanity -- not just this country -- in which genocide is constantly justified by all whites as fast as white supremacists can muster every new lie they can in order to keep the mass victims of this still-current history "calm." As Jesse Williams says, "...looking at the data ... we know that police somehow manage to deescalate, disarm and not kill white people everyday. So what’s going to happen is we are going to have equal rights and justice in our own country or we will restructure their function and ours..."
Allow me to retort:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhgwy9y5ttA

Maybe not enough black people are able to be deescalated?
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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2016, 02:28:41 PM »
Good Lord!

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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2016, 02:40:33 PM »
Good luck with that, honkie.

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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2016, 02:43:51 PM »
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1 ANY POLICE or mass media who insist, outright or in so many euphemistic words, that police lives and work matter more than the lives and work of those their uniformed brothers kill --


2those police and media purposely ignore the rage that comes from 300 years of trafficking, torture, slavery, murder, the Old and New Jim Crow.

**** you DUmmie.

1Any man or woman that puts on a uniform and knowingly goes out realizing it could be their last day on earth, is worth 10 of the hoodrats that get killed in police encounters. 99% of those killed by police brought about their own death one way or another.

Play Stupid Games, Win Stupid Prizes.

2 And **** your 300 years of bullshit and lies. The democrats have always supported racist laws against minorities. Even today the democrats use them to stay in power while blacks stay in the ghettos.


And another thing ****wad, 9-11-2001 was 15 years ago and the left wants us to forgive and forget. Give us 300 more years and we might consider it. But I doubt that black people will have stopped blaming crackers for their own failures.

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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2016, 02:52:59 PM »
Gave up reading that drivel in sentence one or two.  Pathetic guilty white liberal.
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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2016, 03:06:38 PM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on July 18, 2016, 02:52:59 PM
Gave up reading that drivel in sentence one or two.  Pathetic guilty white liberal.
This twit's drivel isn't worth reading, but the responses are. A bunch of the dummies took her/him to the woodshed, including Dreamer Tatum.
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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2016, 03:08:15 PM »
They have an odd way of going on and on without really saying anything.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2016, 03:17:08 PM by ADsOutburst »
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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2016, 03:12:35 PM »
Quote from: Mary Ann on July 18, 2016, 03:06:38 PM
This twit's drivel isn't worth reading, but the responses are. A bunch of the dummies took her/him to the woodshed, including Dreamer Tatum.
Don't out my favorite mole, Mary Ann!

No, it isn't me poking the hive as Dreamer Tatum.  Or is it???
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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2016, 03:58:48 PM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on July 18, 2016, 03:12:35 PM
Don't out my favorite mole, Mary Ann!

No, it isn't me poking the hive as Dreamer Tatum.  Or is it???
Hmmmm . . . I always thought of you more as Jefferson's Ghost.
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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2016, 04:26:56 PM »
Quote from: Mary Ann on July 18, 2016, 03:58:48 PM
Hmmmm . . . I always thought of you more as Jefferson's Ghost.
I've floated hints before...fake ones.  Claimed I was Lo Zoccolo & OPERATIONMINDCRIME.  Neither was true.

But I still have several DU names I'll poke the hive with from time to time.  Much easier since the accounts have been active for 10+ years.  Picking your battles & spots to comment is the key.
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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2016, 05:38:01 PM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on July 18, 2016, 04:26:56 PM
I've floated hints before...fake ones.  Claimed I was Lo Zoccolo & OPERATIONMINDCRIME.  Neither was true.

But I still have several DU names I'll poke the hive with from time to time.  Much easier since the accounts have been active for 10+ years.  Picking your battles & spots to comment is the key.

Exactly right, not that I would know...:whistling:
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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2016, 06:02:47 PM »
Quote from: Patriot Guard Rider on July 18, 2016, 05:38:01 PM
Exactly right, not that I would know...:whistling:
Ages ago, apparently a male gay couple were posting there.  And to paraphrase Frank, they were "primitives of prominece". Carlos & some other name.  DUmmy sleuths figured out it was one person only, along with help from the mods & admins.

My inbox filled up at CU because lurkers thought it was me.  Now, that would have been a hell of a ruse.  Not sure I could have pulled that off.

Good times...
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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2016, 06:28:48 PM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on July 18, 2016, 04:26:56 PM
I've floated hints before...fake ones.  Claimed I was Lo Zoccolo & OPERATIONMINDCRIME.  Neither was true.

But I still have several DU names I'll poke the hive with from time to time.  Much easier since the accounts have been active for 10+ years.  Picking your battles & spots to comment is the key.

Interspersed with some dummie cred of course.  Got to slap the dummies upside the head and at the same time throw them some bones.  Not that I would have any knowledge about such things.   :whistling:

Quote from: Patriot Guard Rider on July 18, 2016, 05:38:01 PM
Exactly right, not that I would know...:whistling:

Me neither.  I have no moles.  None. Nada. Zip. Zilch.   :whistling:

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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2016, 08:30:43 PM »
DU - A White Inferioracy site.
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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2016, 11:37:03 PM »
Quote from: CC27 on July 18, 2016, 02:09:29 PM
That is a special kind of stupid right there.

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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2016, 11:44:39 PM »
Quote from: Fourwinds on July 18, 2016, 02:13:48 PM
Yeah they aren't fascists at all. /sarc

Unless they just lie to themselves constantly, even the most casual observer can come to no other conclusion. 
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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2016, 05:17:42 AM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on July 18, 2016, 11:44:39 PM
Unless they just lie to themselves constantly, even the most casual observer can come to no other conclusion.

It's not fascism when they do it! ::) :whatever:
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Re: De-Programming White People To Build A Better Future
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2016, 12:00:59 PM »
Quote from: Maverick1987 on July 18, 2016, 02:28:41 PM
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