Bernie bullies won't shut up about superdelegates

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511615183

Damn.

Has anyone ever seen a more obstinately stupid bunch of whiners?

RATM435 (159 posts)    Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:02 AM

Utah superdelegates split 2-2 for Bernie Sanders despite big win among caucus voters
 
Utah's last undecided Democratic superdelegate threw his support behind Bernie Sanders on Wednesday, and the state party finalized its tally from last week's presidential caucuses, in which a high turnout led to a lengthy vote-counting process.

That result remains largely unchanged: a massive victory by Sanders, the Vermont senator, who claimed 77 percent of the vote, over Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton, who received 20 percent. As early voting predicted, Sanders won 27 delegates while Clinton earned 6.

On top of those pledged delegates tied to the caucus votes of 81,600 Utahns, four party officials hold the special designation of superdelegate, allowing them to support either candidate as they see fit. They split between the candidates.

http://www.sltrib.com/home/3722153-155/official-caucus-tally-gives-bernie-sanders

It's a long thread, so only a few primitive comments, selected at random:

cosmicone (9,911 posts)    Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:09 AM

1. Superdelegates can decide on their own
 
and being politicians, they have a better handle on who is a better candidate.

cosmicone (9,911 posts)    Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:29 AM

7. Superdelegates are there to protect the interests of the democratic party
 
and to prevent some Unicorn J. Sparklepony creating a revolution out of independents in open primaries which would elect someone like George McGovern or Michael Dukakis.

The superdelegates have skin in the game because coattails affect their election in November. They should have a hand in choosing the nominee to a tiny extent which is about 20% at the moment.

cosmicone (9,911 posts)    Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:36 AM

9. No ... that is the way the game is played. Sanders knew it going in.
 
One cannot start playing the game and complain in the 8th inning that the bases are too far apart.

cosmicone (9,911 posts)    Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:38 AM

11. Well, Sanders accepted the rules and ran. Stop complaining about the rules now.

cosmicone (9,911 posts)   Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:54 AM

18. There is nothing undemocratic about it
 
Sanders had the exact SAME opportunity to win over the superdelegates as Clinton. He failed.

Them's the breaks.

cosmicone (9,911 posts)    Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:53 AM

17. It IS even and any insinuation to the contrary is a dirty smear
 
Sanders and Clinton BOTH had the SAME opportunity to win over the superdelegates.

Just because Sanders couldn't persuade them is HIS problem. Not of the rules, of the party, Hillary or the superdelegates themselves.

cosmicone (9,911 posts)    Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:10 AM

33. No. Sanders KNEW the rules going in
 
and he had 27+ years to cultivate superdelegates in congress. The fat that almost none of his colleagues in congress support him speaks volumes. 

[Carl]

They sure do need to change the name of their party.
It is far more like the Kremlin.

[thundley4]

cosmicone (9,911 posts)    Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:29 AM

7. Superdelegates are there to protect the interests of the democratic party
 
and to prevent some Unicorn J. Sparklepony creating a revolution out of independents in open primaries which would elect someone like George McGovern or Michael Dukakis.

It didn't do a damn thing to keep that POS used car salesman, Barry Soetoro, from being elected.

[franksolich]

It didn't do a damn thing to keep that POS used car salesman, Barry Soetoro, from being elected.

But remember, this involved the lure of the shiny new toy; a "black" guy who wasn't really black (and hence harmless to white liberals feeling race-guilt).

Methuselah's a case of evil old white men--the "Man," the "Establishment," the "Old Order"--trying to re-assert their power over the Democrat party.

Normally, one thinks the superdelegates would favor the establishment, the old order, being part of that themselves, but in this case, they see the writing on the wall and are willing to accede power to the once-unpowered in the Democrat party.

Rather prescient beings, the superdelegates.

[thundley4]

But remember, this involved the lure of the shiny new toy; a "black" guy who wasn't really black (and hence harmless to white liberals feeling race-guilt).

Methuselah's a case of evil old white men--the "Man," the "Establishment," the "Old Order"--trying to re-assert their power over the Democrat party.

Normally, one thinks the superdelegates would favor the establishment, the old order, being part of that themselves, but in this case, they see the writing on the wall and are willing to accede power to the once-unpowered in the Democrat party.

Rather prescient beings, the superdelegates.

Except that Hillary represents a shiny new thing to most of her DUmmie supporters. She has a vajayjay.

[franksolich]

Except that Hillary represents a shiny new thing to most of her DUmmie supporters. She has a vajayjay.

True, very true, sir.

And I'm really surprised--or rather, appalled--that the cousin, who's so well-trained in history-making trends, hasn't noticed something.  In fact, she seems to be operating under the same delusion as her fellow Bernie bullies are.

There's a struggle going on for control of the future of the Democrat party.

It's between the once-powerful elements, and the never-empowered elements.

One can disregard the blacks; they never counted anyway, always having been kept in line by other black Democrats the like of Quimbo, MrsCorpio, who doesn't want his fellow blacks empowered.

In this case, old tired white men who once dominated the party, and young vibrant blonde women who are trying to take it over.

If the cousin's not seeing that Methuselah represents the old order, and Messalina Agrippina the new, well, I'm thinking the cousin doesn't know a damned thing about history-making trends, the directions things are going.