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Offline txradioguy

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Marine veteran criticizes Pentagon's, "Corrupt, insane and ambitious true believers."
We have not truly succeeded in any of our military interventions or occupations since the classic failure of the Vietnam War. The reason for this, in the opinion of Vietnam veteran and senior editor of Veterans Today, Gordon Duff, is that our generals have consistently chosen to support the wrong side in all of those conflicts. Perhaps one may object that generals don't run our foreign policy. Mr. Duff, who has been a military insider for decades, argues that to believe they don't is simply wishful thinking.

    Always on the Wrong Side: US Vet Questions Military's Muddled Loyalties



    Gordon Duff, a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam War and a senior editor and chairman of the board of Veterans Today, has recently been very critical of the US military and its top commanders. The reason for his frustration is the incompetence and the either intentional or deliberate delusion of the country’s top military commanders.

    For a better understanding of what is going on in the US military, Duff recalled his personal military experience while serving in Vietnam. “I served in the US military in Vietnam, in a Marine special operations unit. There was a general consensus that America was clearly on the wrong side in Vietnam,” he recalls in his article for the New Eastern Outlook website. “The South Vietnamese government was brutal, corrupt and illegal based on the Paris peace accords of 1954 and everyone knew it,” he says.

    Let’s wind the clock forward to Reagan’s first year in office, the author suggests. “I was at a meeting in Miami between former members of the Garde Nationale, the Nazi death squads of the Somoza regime in Nicaragua and the US Army’s advisory group operating in Honduras.” The US “backed” contras fighting in Nicaragua were actually 100% paid mercenaries, much like ISIS (Daesh), trained, armed and led by Americans, he recalls. “I sat with maps in front of me showing infiltration routes into Nicaragua while our “Garde” friends passed on lists of those to be killed, all communists they said. The lists included teachers, nurses and, in more than one instance, personal grudges. The Americans in the room were lapping it up.”

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    “If you stop someone in the Pentagon and ask them when Russia invaded the Ukraine and how many tank divisions are there, waiting to attack Western Europe, they will have an answer. That answer won’t be; “Are you friggin’ nuts.” They will take out their phones and show you photos of the Russian tanks, photos long proven to have been a decade old, long exposed as a hoax.” The author suggests that those advocating the chaos were from “secret societies and organized crime” and not the Soviet Union, something that President Kennedy rightfully pointed out long ago prior to being murdered. “Do this, ask someone in the American military how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Do it, please. Then you will understand how much I have understated here,” he urges.

    (snip)




Read more at: http://sputniknews.com/us/20160118/1033319430/us-military-trust.html

A couple DUmmies try to point out the non validity of the website and the fact the "source" of this piece is a crackpot.  But one Hard Core Marxist will hear nothing of it.

Ladies and gentlemen...I give you another_liberal

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Star Member another_liberal (8,821 posts)
2. The article excerpted is by an American veteran and journalist . . .

 
Are you saying we can't believe what he is telling us?

If a News source offers the truth about noteworthy events (which Sputnik reliably does) why in the world should its country of origin matter anyway?


Star Member another_liberal (8,821 posts)
6. And we have our first . . .

 
Clear attempt at character assassination of the source. Did he touch a nerve?

I won't even bother to ask what you think about the content of his comments


Star Member another_liberal (8,821 posts)
11. Your opinion . . .

 
I do have to question your motive for repeatedly insulting me in this way, ramdome. Are you employed by a government agency or Pentagon-affiliated private concern? I am not in the service of any such entity, in case that even matters to you.


Star Member another_liberal (8,821 posts)
14. Why can't you answer my question?

 
Are you employed by a government agency or affiliated private concern?

I have already freely stated that I am not.


Star Member another_liberal (8,821 posts)
12. Yes, and if one includes the wealthy war profiteers in industry and Congress . . .

 
It becomes a largely believable picture of what is going on.


None other than ChisolmTrailDem tries to point out to another_liberal that the source is crap...but again it's  :lalala: on the part of a_l

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20. God ****ing damn it! I read the entire excerpt then see that it's from Sputnik?? From now on,

put your ****ing link first so you're not wasting people's time!

I don't have time to read shit come from a shit source!


Star Member another_liberal (8,821 posts)
22. No . . .

 
That really seems more like your "God ****ing damn" problem.

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23. Sputnik is a shit source. Why are you using it? You wasted my time, I have...

...good reason to be annoyed.

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Star Member another_liberal (8,821 posts)
26. I'm not "wasting" your time . . .

 
Only you can do that.

I'm just trying to make you think regarding a subject about which you are clearly very emotional. Try to keep your temper; after all, thinking about new or different points of view can't really hurt one, right?

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Tue Jan 19, 2016, 12:10 PM

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33. I have no idea if I care about the subject because it comes from a shitty source. I don't trust that

source so how do I know if they're publishing the truth?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027543028#post1

Well people can debate all they want to about whether a "news" outlet that is directly controlled by the Putin regime is legitimate or not.  What these idiots like another_liberal can not argue with...is the files from the National Personnel Records Center.  They don't lie.





Sorry DUmmies...little Gordie wasn't Force Recon...he was a TOC Roach and coffee bitch in an S-3 shop in Vietnam who shipped for boot camp in Feb 1969 and was on the street as a civilian by Sept 1970.

You guys fell for it again like Charlie Brown kicking the football.  And at the same time exposed someone who $kinner might need to investigate as it appears they have someone who works for Sputnik defending the propaganda of Vlad on the Island.


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Good find tx.
When a valor thief makes an attempt to steal valor, I only wonder if they think they can get away with it.
Or do they know they can get away with it.
Or, do they just believe they can get away with it.
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H/t TAH for steering me to this one.

A couple DUmmies try to point out the non validity of the website and the fact the "source" of this piece is a crackpot.  But one Hard Core Marxist will hear nothing of it.

Ladies and gentlemen...I give you another_liberal

None other than ChisolmTrailDem tries to point out to another_liberal that the source is crap...but again it's  :lalala: on the part of a_l

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027543028#post1

Well people can debate all they want to about whether a "news" outlet that is directly controlled by the Putin regime is legitimate or not.  What these idiots like another_liberal can not argue with...is the files from the National Personnel Records Center.  They don't lie.





Sorry DUmmies...little Gordie wasn't Force Recon...he was a TOC Roach and coffee bitch in an S-3 shop in Vietnam who shipped for boot camp in Feb 1969 and was on the street as a civilian by Sept 1970.

You guys fell for it again like Charlie Brown kicking the football.  And at the same time exposed someone who $kinner might need to investigate as it appears they have someone who works for Sputnik defending the propaganda of Vlad on the Island.

That's the way I read it.  0311 for 4 months and RELAD after 1yr. 6 Mos.?    :stoner: :stoner: :stoner:

Also notice his Pro and Con marks are redacted. 
 
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“I served in the US military in Vietnam, in a Marine special operations unit.  :o  There was a general consensus that America was clearly on the wrong side in Vietnam

Never, ever heard that once.  Most blame the Democrats, in particular.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2016, 02:00:51 PM by 98ZJUSMC »
              

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America's military has never lost a war. America's politicians have lost them.

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America's military has never lost a war. America's politicians have lost them.

^^^that.
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America's military has never lost a war. America's politicians have lost them.

And the liberal MSM.
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Good find tx.
When a valor thief makes an attempt to steal valor, I only wonder if they think they can get away with it.
Or do they know they can get away with it.
Or, do they just believe they can get away with it.

Well these days they don't just believe they can get away with it...the 9th Circus says it's protected speech.

But thankfully there are places like TAH that can still shame them and make their fraud public.
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America's military has never lost a war. America's politicians have lost them. thrown them away.

:cheersmate:

And the liberal MSM.

They couldn't do it without them.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2016, 04:58:58 AM by 98ZJUSMC »
              

Liberal thinking is a two-legged stool and magical thinking is one of the legs, the other is a combination of self-loating and misanthropy.  To understand it, you would have to be able to sit on that stool while juggling two elephants, an anvil and a fragmentation grenade, sans pin.

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