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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2016, 02:23:52 AM »
If Trump is this big anti establishment guy...if as some say he's what the Republicans need to beat Hillary...

Why is Sen. Orrin Hatch endorsing him?

Why is Bob Dole supporting him?

Why did Trump donate $60,000 to the McConnell campaign in 2014...$700,000 to the Clinton Foundation...the Harry Reid campaign and to the Rahm Emmanuel campaign?

He's talking about deal making with the very people that you would think that someone who claims to be "anti establishment" wouldn't want to go near?
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2016, 06:21:04 AM »
Hey gang! It's been a while. I wanted to add a couple things:

1. Trump is not my first choice, but I'd vote for almost anyone (Not Bush) in this election.

2. Palin owes the Republican party NOTHING. They, especially McCain's toadies, helped rake her over the coals.

3. I see Trump as superior to Cruz for one reason. Both say "screw the establishment," which is fine. But Cruz will NEVER work with anyone to get stuff done. I say screw the establishment, then get them to do what you want them to do. Maybe--MAYBE--Trump can do that.

4. The GOP despises conservatives, especially social conservatives. We all know this.

5. The only truly rock-ribbed conservative ever nominated by the GOP was Goldwater, and he was torpedoed by the GOP. Reagan was another, but even he had to take Bush as a running mate rather than Kemp. Sometimes, I imagine what 8 years of Reagan/Kemp would have looked like. But the GOP hated Reagan as well.

6. The Republican party still has a tin ear when it comes to its voters. That's dangerous.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2016, 07:20:10 AM »
Hey gang! It's been a while. I wanted to add a couple things:

1. Trump is not my first choice, but I'd vote for almost anyone (Not Bush) in this election.

2. Palin owes the Republican party NOTHING. They, especially McCain's toadies, helped rake her over the coals.

3. I see Trump as superior to Cruz for one reason. Both say "screw the establishment," which is fine. But Cruz will NEVER work with anyone to get stuff done. I say screw the establishment, then get them to do what you want them to do. Maybe--MAYBE--Trump can do that.

4. The GOP despises conservatives, especially social conservatives. We all know this.

5. The only truly rock-ribbed conservative ever nominated by the GOP was Goldwater, and he was torpedoed by the GOP. Reagan was another, but even he had to take Bush as a running mate rather than Kemp. Sometimes, I imagine what 8 years of Reagan/Kemp would have looked like. But the GOP hated Reagan as well.

6. The Republican party still has a tin ear when it comes to its voters. That's dangerous.

Anyway, there's my two cents.

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But Cruz will NEVER work with anyone to get stuff done.

That's not his job.  And in the senate it's not Cruz that doesn't want to work with anyone...they don't want to work with him beacause he doesn't play the establishment game.

As President tiwon't be his job to play nice or get along with everyone.  He'll be the leader of the Republican Party...he'll be the PResident...it's Congreess' job to pass and implement HIS agenda...not the other way around.

Reagan had to fight with members of his own party.  It wasn't just the Dems he pissed off for 8 years.  But he got his agenda implemented for the most part and the country was better for it.


There is more and more evidence that Trump IS the establishment.  He's even bragging about establishment types wanting to join his campaign and how he can "make deals".

Other than those two things you're spot on with how you see the current state of the GOP.
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2016, 07:54:58 AM »
TX, you very well may be right. but remember, up until 2 weeks ago, the establishment, especially many of the big GOP donors, were talking about supporting a third party run, or even Hillary, over Trump. That tells me that Trump is not totally wrong.

Again. My job is not to defend Trump. He's not my guy in the primaries. I just wish Cruz had a few more miles on him. I'd LOVE him for Senate Majority Leader.
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2016, 09:14:27 AM »
TX, you very well may be right. but remember, up until 2 weeks ago, the establishment, especially many of the big GOP donors, were talking about supporting a third party run, or even Hillary, over Trump. That tells me that Trump is not totally wrong.

Again. My job is not to defend Trump. He's not my guy in the primaries. I just wish Cruz had a few more miles on him. I'd LOVE him for Senate Majority Leader.

The GOPe's sudden reversal on Trump makes me wonder if they found some dirt on him that they think they might use to control him if he's elected.  OTOH, they may have realized that he is saying a populist line and will revert to his old liberal beliefs when he gets power.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2016, 09:55:43 AM »

He's talking about deal making with the very people that you would think that someone who claims to be "anti establishment" wouldn't want to go near?

Newt was a great deal maker with the Contract with America. No one in my lifetime has come close. Therefore, if you are throwing bombs like a President Cruz nothing will get done in Congress. It will be a repeat of what we have now.

Most of what Cruz stands for I agree with; I just do not think he would be able to work with Congress because he is not well liked nor does he want to negotiate.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2016, 10:01:47 AM »
Many issues should not be negotiated, conceded or even tolerated.
Compromise never really solves anything, it just delays the real confrontation.
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2016, 10:16:54 AM »
Many issues should not be negotiated, conceded or even tolerated.
Compromise never really solves anything, it just delays the real confrontation.

The current GOPs in power have just decided to give Obama everything instead of negotiating or holding out for a confrontation.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2016, 10:26:57 AM »
The current GOPs in power have just decided to give Obama everything instead of negotiating or holding out for a confrontation.

Concur.
Another Alinsky tactic has been allowed to be used successfully in conjunction with surrendering.
They have allowed deems to browbeat them into surrender with the threat of calling them racist.
Using the divisive tactic of race baiting was actually backfiring for libs and deems because they were overusing it so much as to render the accusation meaningless.
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2016, 11:38:47 AM »
Newt wasn't a negotiator. He went there and said we have a mandate and this is what we are going to do on behalf of the people that sent us here.

He didn't get Clinton to agree to the compromises he made by wheeling and dealing
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2016, 12:38:16 PM »
Newt wasn't a negotiator. He went there and said we have a mandate and this is what we are going to do on behalf of the people that sent us here.

He didn't get Clinton to agree to the compromises he made by wheeling and dealing

People forget how Newt Gingrich was able to get a conservative idea into law;
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Many republicans were upset at Gingrich because Gingrich forced Clinton to "accept Conservative values".
How many republicans can we say that about ?

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2016, 02:00:46 PM »
Newt wasn't a negotiator. He went there and said we have a mandate and this is what we are going to do on behalf of the people that sent us here.



You can call Newt what you want but he got things done unlike the pathetic Repub. conservatives who were elected the last few years. Repubs and conservatives can blame themselves for the rise in Trump's popularity. Voters are disgusted with Congress critters and career politicians.

I think Trump will become President and if he does not perform/make America better, I will be the first to kick him to the curb. BTW, if Trump is elected, don't you think he will claim that he has a mandate??????????????????

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2016, 03:28:14 PM »
Trump stated that there are several Rep. candidates that he would consider including Cruz in his administration if he got the nomination. So, let not be spreading B.S.

If you think that Cruz would not have been thrilled with her endorsement, you would be crazier than Dr. Nutz. or on drugs.

I do agree her shrieking is irritating.

Spreading B.S.??  Trump's words about Palin (see link below) not mine.  By the way, who made you the almighty one and how did you come up with that charming statement??  At one point in time Trump said he would consider Cruz as his VP --- I have never said otherwise.  As for Palin and back to the subject -- her popularity has waned and her personal family life is still a mess (her son was arrested right before she was to endorse Trump).  Nope, not on drugs.  I don't see that Palin has a the same draw anymore considering that FOX wound up having to cancel her program and you are welcome to make your assumptions as to whether or not Cruz would have liked Palin's endorsement.  Her endorsement to Trump I feel was a slap in the face to conservatives and TEA. I see it as  she compromised her conservative principles (again) for personal gain...just like she did when she aligned herself with RINO McCain.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2016, 03:46:53 PM »
Spreading B.S.??  Trump's words about Palin (see link below) not mine.  By the way, who made you the almighty one and how did you come up with that charming statement??  At one point in time Trump said he would consider Cruz as his VP --- I have never said otherwise.  As for Palin and back to the subject -- her popularity has waned and her personal family life is still a mess (her son was arrested right before she was to endorse Trump).  Nope, not on drugs.  I don't see that Palin has a the same draw anymore considering that FOX wound up having to cancel her program and you are welcome to make your assumptions as to whether or not Cruz would have liked Palin's endorsement.  Her endorsement to Trump I feel was a slap in the face to conservatives and TEA. I see it as  she compromised her conservative principles (again) for personal gain...just like she did when she aligned herself with RINO McCain.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/donald-trump-2016-sarah-palin-cabinet-post-120747

You would be singing her praises if she had endorsed Cruz and that is a FACT. The rest of the candidates felt the same way. The rest of your post is just babbling.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2016, 08:07:50 PM »
You would be singing her praises if she had endorsed Cruz and that is a FACT. The rest of the candidates felt the same way. The rest of your post is just babbling.

Sigh. Speaking of babbling, now you're doing exactly what you're accusing libertybele of doing. She said nothing of the kind.

lacarnut, you're just spewing more of your "worship trump" bullshit. Gawd, get a grip.
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2016, 08:45:55 PM »
Sigh. Speaking of babbling, now you're doing exactly what you're accusing libertybele of doing. She said nothing of the kind.

lacarnut, you're just spewing more of your "worship trump" bullshit. Gawd, get a grip.

Wrong. I worship no man. However, it does appear that some Cruz supporters have tunnel vision or just can not handle the truth. Cruz was courting Palin to endorse him. Plain and simple. Don't take my word for it; google it.

I have stated many, many, many, many, times that Cruz is my second choice and I would gladly vote for him. You are the one that needs to get a grip.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2016, 08:46:39 PM »
Very well said. If Cruz gets the nomination and wins the Presidency, I hope he is not all talk and no show. Have been disappointed many times by these so called panty waisted conservatives.

I don't even know where to begin with your comment ... I hope he's not all talk and no show.  Please give me one example of what Trump has actually done rather than what he has said.  I have outlined very briefly a comparison of Cruz and Trump on a couple of issues -- if you will note -- Cruz actually has a record of doing something -- Trump has no record and you can only go by what he says.  Heck of a difference.  I'll take Cruz; he has walked the walk.  Trump is very good at selling what some are willing to buy.

On the 2nd Amendment - Cruz is endorsed by Gun Owners of America and has an A+ rating from the NRA. In the Senate he voted "NO" on banning high capacity magazines. As Solicitor General he authored a brief on behalf of 31 states supporting the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms and was honored by the NRA thanking Ted for leading the States before the Supreme Court in the Heller v. DC gun case.

On the 2nd Amendment - Trump believes that the Democrats’ approach to confiscate all guns will leave criminals as the only ones with weapons, but believes Republicans need to be more flexible on reforms. “Democrats want to confiscate all guns, which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed. The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions. I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.

On Planned Parenthood - Cruz voted to defund

On Planned Parenthood - Trump had voiced his opinion that he would continue funding; except for the abortion part which only amounts to be 3%  (really?)

On Immigration - Cruz - in 2013 voted to require US Visit system to be established at every port of entry.  In 2013, voted for completion of the fence along the Mex/US border.  He was a co-sponsor of a bill to stop Sanctuary Cities and Protect Americans Act.

On Immigration - Trump - based on what he says - Before his presidential campaign, in 2013, Trump hosted a gathering of Dreamers at Trump Tower. He told them, they convinced him of the need to amnesty children of illegal immigrants to become citizens. He also reportedly admitted to hiring illegal immigrants to work on his golf courses. (NBC Latino).  He also stated that the United States must be ready to accept some Syrian Refugees, even though some of them may be militants or radicalized. He said this even though the U.S. takes in more refugees than any other country already. (CNN)




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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2016, 08:21:11 AM »
Wrong. I worship no man. However, it does appear that some Cruz supporters have tunnel vision or just can not handle the truth. Cruz was courting Palin to endorse him. Plain and simple. Don't take my word for it; google it.

I have stated many, many, many, many, times that Cruz is my second choice and I would gladly vote for him. You are the one that needs to get a grip.

How many times have I heard you yodel, "President Trump?" You worship him, his ideas, his BS, his ego. Now, if cooler heads prevail and Trump doesn't get the nomination, you've retreated behind the "yeah, okay, Cruz" and do it grudgingly.

Anybody selecting a candidate at this point has done one of two things:
1. Perused the issues and what the candidate has said about them, over time.
2.  Become so blinded by the populism and appeal (hey, let's face it -- it simply FEELS GOOD just to say shit that's really outrageous, just because you can) that regardless of the issues, the emotions direct the choice.

Have you heard what Trump has said? About 2A? About abortion? About the substantive issues that confront us, not just immigration?

Trump is a populist. He has no substance, no plan, no ideas of his own. He's riding the rails of discontent and pisstivity in this country -- those who are mightily pissed off at the general condition of things (yeah, I'm pissed off too) and are willing to throw in their lot with a Washington outsider -- except that he (Trump) really isn't, as he's bought influence over the years.

I call that just about as disingenuous as you can get.
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2016, 09:58:23 AM »
Trump is a populist. He has no substance, no plan, no ideas of his own. He's riding the rails of discontent and pisstivity in this country -- those who are mightily pissed off at the general condition of things (yeah, I'm pissed off too) and are willing to throw in their lot with a Washington outsider -- except that he (Trump) really isn't, as he's bought influence over the years.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2016, 12:03:23 PM »
Who said Cruz has too many negatives to get elected ?  :whistling:

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read-gop-establishment-s-risky-bet-trump-n501076

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Trump's overall positive/negative score: 29% positive, 58% negative (-29)

•Among African Americans: 9% positive, 81% negative (-72)
•Among Latinos: 22% positive, 69% negative (-47)
•Among women: 26% positive, 62% negative (-36)
•Among independents: 26% positive, 52% negative (-26)
•Among suburban voters: 31% positive, 55% negative (-24)


Cruz's overall positive/negative score: 31% positive, 35% negative (-4)

•Among African Americans: 19%-39% (-20)
•Among Latinos: 23%-34% (-11)
•Among Women: 31%-32% (-1)
•Among independents: 19%-41% (-22)
•Among suburban voters: 30%-34% (-4)
   
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2016, 01:44:58 PM »
How many times have I heard you yodel, "President Trump?" You worship him, his ideas, his BS, his ego. Now, if cooler heads prevail and Trump doesn't get the nomination, you've retreated behind the "yeah, okay, Cruz" and do it grudgingly.

Anybody selecting a candidate at this point has done one of two things:
1. Perused the issues and what the candidate has said about them, over time.
2.  Become so blinded by the populism and appeal (hey, let's face it -- it simply FEELS GOOD just to say shit that's really outrageous, just because you can) that regardless of the issues, the emotions direct the choice.

Have you heard what Trump has said? About 2A? About abortion? About the substantive issues that confront us, not just immigration?

Trump is a populist. He has no substance, no plan, no ideas of his own. He's riding the rails of discontent and pisstivity in this country -- those who are mightily pissed off at the general condition of things (yeah, I'm pissed off too) and are willing to throw in their lot with a Washington outsider -- except that he (Trump) really isn't, as he's bought influence over the years.

I call that just about as disingenuous as you can get.

I get a kick out of some the Cruz supporters. I do not remember criticizing Curz. because I like him. Plus, I am not going to dig up things that someone said years and years ago. Trump has changed his opinion like many other people on different issues.

It is you that is a cultist and worshiper.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2016, 05:25:03 AM »
You can call Newt what you want but he got things done unlike the pathetic Repub. conservatives who were elected the last few years.

No argument there.  They lied to us to get where they are.  They need to be held accountable.

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Not Conservatives...the Establishment GOP types and the RINO's and an out of control Democrat President have given us Trump.

The McConnell and Boehner/Ryan types HATE Conservatives.  And it's not a new thing either.  They did there level best to defeat Reagan in the primaries too.

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I think Trump will become President and if he does not perform/make America better, I will be the first to kick him to the curb. BTW, if Trump is elected, don't you think he will claim that he has a mandate??????????????????

Anyone can claim by simply winning an election they have a mandate.  Victory margin and number of voters who turn out tells whether it's a mandate or just a win.

Remember...Clinton never got a majority of the popular vote...but still claimed he had a mandate.
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #47 on: January 30, 2016, 07:05:00 AM »
I get a kick out of some the Cruz supporters. I do not remember criticizing Curz. because I like him. Plus, I am not going to dig up things that someone said years and years ago. Trump has changed his opinion like many other people on different issues.

It is you that is a cultist and worshiper.

Have a good Pm.... I am going to watch some football which makes much more sense than your posts..
 

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The truth hurts, doesn't it?

You know who else has "evolved" in his thinking? Barry. Think about it -- you're equating Trump with Barry, which is pretty close to the truth.

How would you rate the pain from one to ten?

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #48 on: March 23, 2016, 04:51:32 PM »
Who are these "certain people"?
Sorry it took so long to respond, but I only post when I have down time at work.  Lately, not much time.
Hedge fund manager Robert Mercer and his family, for one.  He is the largest single donor this cycle.  The lTexas natural gas billionaires Farris and Dan Wilks, and private-equity partner Toby Neugebauer, round out his top donors.  They honed their plan to help Cruz  even before he announced his presidential bid in March.
Though he often likes to brag that he’s raised more “hard money” through his actual campaign than anyone else in the race, Cruz enjoys the support of four wealthy super PACs that together have raised approximately $38 million. Nearly all of that money came from these three families.

Both Cruz and Mercer declined to speak with reporters about this story.

So, while you sit here chastizing and castigating us for our support of Trump, give birth to this thought.  WHY would four billionaires put millions in Cruz's campaign?  You think they expect no return on their money?  Heck, it is said that Mercers house staff gets docked money if shampoo bottles are not replaced, when they have less than a third of the product left, and docked for leaving doors open.  A man that frugal, does not spend 38 million, for nothing.

And, in closing, I'd rather support a man who is smart enough to have gotten the equivalent of 1.5 billion in free advertising, than someone in the pocket of 4 billionaires, who cannot garner the support of the majority of his Christian Brothers.
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #49 on: March 23, 2016, 06:13:08 PM »
Sorry it took so long to respond, but I only post when I have down time at work.  Lately, not much time.
Hedge fund manager Robert Mercer and his family, for one.  He is the largest single donor this cycle.  The lTexas natural gas billionaires Farris and Dan Wilks, and private-equity partner Toby Neugebauer, round out his top donors.  They honed their plan to help Cruz  even before he announced his presidential bid in March.
Though he often likes to brag that he’s raised more “hard money” through his actual campaign than anyone else in the race, Cruz enjoys the support of four wealthy super PACs that together have raised approximately $38 million. Nearly all of that money came from these three families.

Both Cruz and Mercer declined to speak with reporters about this story.

So, while you sit here chastizing and castigating us for our support of Trump, give birth to this thought.  WHY would four billionaires put millions in Cruz's campaign?  You think they expect no return on their money?  Heck, it is said that Mercers house staff gets docked money if shampoo bottles are not replaced, when they have less than a third of the product left, and docked for leaving doors open.  A man that frugal, does not spend 38 million, for nothing.

And, in closing, I'd rather support a man who is smart enough to have gotten the equivalent of 1.5 billion in free advertising, than someone in the pocket of 4 billionaires, who cannot garner the support of the majority of his Christian Brothers.
Where is any link to any story that backs up this fary tale?
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