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Offline CC27

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I don't care one bit about Sanders' try at being a C.O. Mineralman
« on: December 30, 2015, 01:06:38 PM »
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I don't care one bit about Sanders' try at being a C.O.


It's a matter of half a century ago. I have friends who were drafted during Vietnam. I have friends who enlisted in a branch of the service less likely to send them to Vietnam, myself among those. I have friends who split for Canada to avoid being drafted. I have a couple of friends who actually applied for and got C.O. status. One of them served as a medic in Vietnam.

Half a century ago. All of those friends are doing something completely different today, except for two who died in Vietnam. Some are Democrats. Some are Republicans. Some are pretty much apolitical. They remain my friends, regardless of their political beliefs and my disagreement with some of them.

So, Bernie Sanders, like me, was opposed to the Vietnam war. I enlisted in the USAF, where I became a Russian linguist. I protested at the Pentagon in uniform in 1969. I could have been court-martialed, but wasn't. I participated actively in anti-war actions while stationed near DC. But, that was almost half a century ago. Who cares today what I, or anyone else did then? It has nothing to do with current issues.

Bernie didn't serve, although he did not get C.O. status. Bill Clinton didn't serve, either. GWB pretended to serve. Some served. Some didn't. It was half a century ago. I'm interested in what they are doing now, not then. I'm listening to politicians today, not in the late 60s.

It's an irrelevant issue when it comes to next year's primary elections, or should be. I'm supporting Hillary Clinton, but not because Bernie Sanders applied for C.O. statues. That's a meaningless historical fact to me. Why anyone would care is beyond me, entirely.

Nice added bouncy about Vietnam and your friends.

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Re: I don't care one bit about Sanders' try at being a C.O. Mineralman
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2015, 01:24:07 PM »
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I enlisted in the USAF, where I became a Russian linguist. I protested at the Pentagon in uniform in 1969. I could have been court-martialed, but wasn't. I participated actively in anti-war actions while stationed near DC.

If you were a "Russian linguist", you held a TOP SECRET (minimum) clearance.  Since the commies were actively cultivating the "Peace" movement of the 60's, any type of activity that ran counter to your mission (and sympathetic to communist subversion) would have cost you your clearance, your job, and your freedom.

So, rockhead, I'm calling bullshit on your cute little story.
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Re: I don't care one bit about Sanders' try at being a C.O. Mineralman
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2015, 01:24:30 PM »
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I enlisted in the USAF, where I became a Russian linguist.

That explains your affinity for the Sandernista, komrad.

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I protested at the Pentagon in uniform in 1969.

By 'protest' he means, 'took lots of bathroom breaks'.

Bet you kept drawing your pay from the eeeevil war machine you hated.  Right, ASSHOLE? That's what I thought.
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Re: I don't care one bit about Sanders' try at being a C.O. Mineralman
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2015, 04:53:24 PM »
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Bernie didn't serve, although he did not get C.O. status. Bill Clinton didn't serve, either. GWB pretended to serve. Some served. Some didn't. It was half a century ago. I'm interested in what they are doing now, not then. I'm listening to politicians today, not in the late 60s.

At least we will be spared this kind of embarrassment this time around:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0BtqtTVNHg[/youtube]
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