" Perhaps we should treat guns like cigarettes..."

[BattleHymn]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027411248

Being a gun humper myself, I get an immense amount of enjoyment out of the hand wringing that goes on when the primitives try to figure out a way around that pesky 2nd Amendment: 

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 06:47 PM
Humanist_Activist (5,386 posts)

Perhaps we should treat guns like cigarettes, or find ways to reduce their circulation...

in the populace, to find ways to reduce the availability of both legal and illegal firearms, by making them, and/or their ammunition more expensive. So that, in a couple of decades, guns would be rare, extremely expensive, and the only ones in anyone's hands would be those who are true enthusiasts, hunters(probably communal lodges), and collectors.

I do find it annoying that only mass shootings bring this to the forefront, they happen so rarely they make national news.

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:06 PM
Star Member valerief (48,678 posts)
4. Chris Rock said every bullet should cost $5000. However, with 3D printing,

guns and bullets can be manufactured at home.

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/atlas-314-3-d-printed-guns-bullets/

We need legislation.

That's probably not going to happen?  How about a nice little DUAC instead?  Would that make you feel better??  DUAC!  DUAC! 

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:44 PM
Humanist_Activist (5,386 posts)
18. The problem is that such legislation would be blocked by the courts because of their current...

interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, perhaps a movement to repeal the 2nd is called for.

Ok, then.  You first. 

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:46 PM
Star Member valerief (48,678 posts)
20. Definitely. We don't need militia with muskets anymore. nt

I'm not aware of any militia with muskets, lucky you!  I guess that whole "living document" thing only applies to certain things and not others. 

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:49 PM
Humanist_Activist (5,386 posts)
22. Yes, exactly, its almost on the same level as the 3rd Amendment in that its a historical...

anachronism for today's world, and not really relevant. The problem is that while the 3rd is simply quaint and antiquated, the 2nd is a roadblock in true firearm regulation and restriction.

The 1st Amendment only applies to street criers and things made on an actual printing press.  No social media, no websites, no nothing. 

Oh, sorry- forgot about that double standard thing.  Carry on...

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:00 PM
olddots (9,199 posts)
3. I agree with you

Humans are very slow learners .

Primitive: Mirror, mirror on the wall, who are the slowest learners of all?

Mirror: "Why, it's you, DU!" 

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:07 PM
Star Member Drahthaardogs (2,266 posts)
5. I am watching the news and kind of wondering why DU keeps insisting this was a workplace shooting

that would be helped by gun control. These people were radicalized Muslims with ties to Pakistan and Saudi Arabia and terrorist organizations. They had pipe bombs and tactical gear and remote control detonation devices. I don't see this as a gun control issue. This is nothing a 100% background check is going to solve.

Alert!  Alert!!  How is this post still up??

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:22 PM
Waldorf (264 posts)
8. Yes, this was carried out by radicalized Muslims. You could even tell by the different mood of the

President. He was very vocal in the Oregon/Colorado shooting, but quite subdued earlier today.

Quick!  The DUmpmonkey in charge is asleep at the wheel!!

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:18 PM
Snobblevitch (1,378 posts)
7. There have been USSC rulings against

taxing guns and ammo to the point their availability is se ery limited.

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:22 PM
Humanist_Activist (5,386 posts)
9. Perhaps then, the 2nd Amendment should be repealed. It would be difficult to do, but technically...

possible.

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:40 PM
hollowdweller (2,859 posts)
15. You are on the right track


Think about this. It costs much more and is harder to own a machine gun. How many mass shootings with machine guns??? Very few, too costly and too much red tape for anybody but serious collectors.

I have owned and shot guns for 50 years. When I was coming up the average pistol was a revolver (holds six) and the normal rifles were bolt action (holds 5 usually) and Lever Action ( holds 7) I can remember when the only "military style" rifle were military surplus.

Now I go to my local gun store. It's all stuff made to look like military guns, high capacity pistols.

The gun market has changed from rifles used for hunting and target shooting to apocalypse fantasy stuff. It's no wonder that some people really act it out.

First like cigarettes advertising high capacity pistols and rifles should be banned. Second going forward we either need to subject purchasers of guns capable of high capacity clips or guns designed to shoot people to the same red tape as machine guns or some kind of tax.

Not BANNING any sort of rifle or pistol, but I think if people had to ORDER such guns thru their gun store rather than walking into a store full of them, and maybe pay some sort of tax we'd see less sold.

I personally would much rather shoot a bolt action, or 6 shooter, or muzzle loader than a semi auto because I take less time on each shot, and waste more ammo with a semi auto.

I think the gun community should maybe try to make a turn from the whole zombie apocalypse marketing and military angle and instead focus on accuracy guns that are not styled after weapons of war. Sends a bad message.

All of the weapons  you listed above were used by the military at some point in time.   

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:53 PM
Throd (6,552 posts)
23. Make it another form of white privilege?

Speaking as someone who identifies as an omnisexual trans-rhinoceros, check your privilege, human.  Don't EVEN think about questioning me, or I'll accuse you of being a trans-rhinocerosophobe.

[franksolich]

There was another thread earlier today on Skins's island, about how good it'd be, if buying a gun were made "as hard as" procuring an abortion.

[Skul]

There was another thread earlier today on Skins's island, about how good it'd be, if buying a gun were made "as hard as" procuring an abortion.

Good grief, no.
All the DUmmie womynz would want one or two,.

[SVPete]

Treat guns like cigarettes? No problem! Just repeal the 2nd Amendment!

Have fun trying that, Progs!

[67 Rover]

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:40 PM
hollowdweller (2,859 posts)
15. You are on the right track


Think about this. It costs much more and is harder to own a machine gun. How many mass shootings with machine guns??? Very few, too costly and too much red tape for anybody but serious collectors.

I have owned and shot guns for 50 years. When I was coming up the average pistol was a revolver (holds six) and the normal rifles were bolt action (holds 5 usually) and Lever Action ( holds 7) I can remember when the only "military style" rifle were military surplus.

Now I go to my local gun store. It's all stuff made to look like military guns, high capacity pistols.

The gun market has changed from rifles used for hunting and target shooting to apocalypse fantasy stuff. It's no wonder that some people really act it out.

First like cigarettes advertising high capacity pistols and rifles should be banned. Second going forward we either need to subject purchasers of guns capable of high capacity clips or guns designed to shoot people to the same red tape as machine guns or some kind of tax.

Not BANNING any sort of rifle or pistol, but I think if people had to ORDER such guns thru their gun store rather than walking into a store full of them, and maybe pay some sort of tax we'd see less sold.

I personally would much rather shoot a bolt action, or 6 shooter, or muzzle loader than a semi auto because I take less time on each shot, and waste more ammo with a semi auto.

I think the gun community should maybe try to make a turn from the whole zombie apocalypse marketing and military angle and instead focus on accuracy guns that are not styled after weapons of war. Sends a bad message.

Maybe an NRA refresher course in in order. 

[txradioguy]

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 06:47 PM
Humanist_Activist (5,386 posts)

Perhaps we should treat guns like cigarettes, or find ways to reduce their circulation...

Perhaps we should treat Liberals like Child Molesters and reduce them from the gene pool.

[BlueStateSaint]

Perhaps we should treat Liberals like Child Molesters and reduce them from the gene pool.

An application of 'The Law of Unintended Consequences' if I ever saw one.

[txradioguy]

An application of 'The Law of Unintended Consequences' if I ever saw one.

These little glimpses of what the DUmmies would be like if they were in control of things is frightening.  They should all be subject to 'The Law of Unintended Consequences' lest they gain control of the levers of power.

[Big Dog]

Humanist_Activist (5,386 posts) 

Perhaps we should treat guns like cigarettes

Great idea, DUmbass!

How many stores in your city sell cigarettes vs. stores that sell firearms?

How many buildings, including government buildings, prohibit carrying cigarettes vs. carrying firearms?

How many businesses and government buildings have designated smoking areas vs. designated shooting areas?

What is the waiting period to buy cigarettes?

What Federal agency approves every retail purchase of cigarettes? What Federal form is required?

How many cigarettes are in a pack? A carton? How many cigarettes  can you buy at one time?

And... I am a cigar man. If guns = cigarettes, then x = cigars. What is the value of x? Maybe howitzers or chain guns.

Let's run with your idea, DUmbass!

[Duke Nukum]

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:06 PM
Star Member valerief (48,678 posts)
4. Chris Rock said every bullet should cost $5000. However, with 3D printing,

guns and bullets can be manufactured at home.

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/atlas-314-3-d-printed-guns-bullets/

We need legislation.

Why not simply use your printer to print up whatever legislation you want? Oh, that's right, it wouldn't have the full force of somebody else's guns to enforce it.

But how do you keep people from printing their own guns if they can afford the technology?  Do you have to have the government place a government gunslinger into every home?

[BlueStateSaint]

Great idea, DUmbass!

How many stores in your city sell cigarettes vs. stores that sell firearms?

How many buildings, including government buildings, prohibit carrying cigarettes vs. carrying firearms?

How many businesses and government buildings have designated smoking areas vs. designated shooting areas?

What is the waiting period to buy cigarettes?

What Federal agency approves every retail purchase of cigarettes? What Federal form is required?

How many cigarettes are in a pack? A carton? How many cigarettes  can you buy at one time?

And... I am a cigar man. If guns = cigarettes, then x = cigars. What is the value of x? Maybe howitzers or chain guns.

Let's run with your idea, DUmbass!

H5--I didn't look at it this way!

[dixierose]

OK. Stupid question. I've seen this acronym a few times (DUAC). What does it mean?

[Carl]

OK. Stupid question. I've seen this acronym a few times (DUAC). What does it mean?

It stands for "DU Activist Corps".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3995904

The problem of course was that all the useless mutts can do is sit in a chair,eat cheetos,pick their noses and asses and bitch.
Not a damn one of them will ever do anything for themselves.

[jukin]

Bad news for the DUchebags.

Black Friday sets new record for gun sales!!  Between 218-245,000 guns sold last Friday.

For the DUchebags that is enough to arm the entire Marine Corps and 1-2 Army divisions.  You have no comprehension of the amount of legal gun owners out there nor the exponential growth of new gun owners.

[dixierose]

It stands for "DU Activist Corps".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3995904

The problem of course was that all the useless mutts can do is sit in a chair,eat cheetos,pick their noses and asses and bitch.
Not a damn one of them will ever do anything for themselves.

Thanks!

[obumazombie]

Perhaps we should treat Liberals like Child Molesters and reduce them from the gene pool.

Can we tar and feather them first, then run them out of town on a rail ?
I am beginning to yearn for those days.