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Getting It Off My Chest
« on: October 01, 2015, 03:24:18 PM »
I am new and this might be my only post.  It is for those who did not vote in the last two presidential elections. This was posted last night on Facebook to my friends and family.  No response is needed unless you want to. 

THE STATE OF OUR COUNTRY by Chuck Stotz

What I am about to post will not sit well with some of my family and friends. If this posting offends you then I am truly sorry, ask for your forgiveness and ask you to dump this post in the electronic round basket.

For those of you who agree with this posting I ask you to pass it on to all of your friends on Facebook and I ask them to do the same.

I post this out of love of country, the one I served as a United States Marine and the one that has given me (under God) the best life I could have possibly imagined.

What set me off were the Russians telling us to leave Syria. This is just the last straw on a bale of hay that has been building for the past 7 years. Now you think I am going to bash President Obama and his council of leaders that surround him. No that is not what I am going to do.

I blame the 2 or 3 million conservatives and Republicans who did not go to the poles in 2012 because our candidate did not fit some notion of conservatism or religion or whatever. If you were one of those then any response to me will go unheard for you get what you don’t vote for. I was not one of those. It seems that in the Republican Party you need to be Joan of Arc, Richard the Lionhearted, General Douglas MacArthur, Condoleezza Rice or some other Knight or Lady on a Hill that will ride down and save us from whatever doom we conjure up at the moment. I am sorry to report to you that this person does not exist, say-one who is religious enough, conservative enough, states-person enough, tall enough, good looking enough, on and on.

It is time for us to GET REAL and, if we really believe that the country is on the wrong track, then get behind whoever is the nominee of the Party and show up at the poles. If you stay home again you will definitely get what you didn’t vote for.

PS to the Republican Candidates - GET REAL YOURSELVES. Tell us what you are going to do and not what the other candidate looks like, said about you or whatever little prissy thing you all are doing to win this nomination. There will be plenty of that CR$^%# in the main event.

Well, I have wanted to get that off my chest for a long time and now that I have I can go to bed. Good night all of my friends and family (who by the way are also my friends)

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Re: Getting It Off My Chest
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2015, 04:50:03 PM »
Welcome to CC.

I'm glad you got that off your chest. In fact, just the other day I was saying, 'what this place needs is a new guy to come in and tell people to get real.'

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Re: Getting It Off My Chest
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2015, 04:52:56 PM »
Welcome to CC.

I'm glad you got that off your chest. In fact, just the other day I was saying, 'what this place needs is a new guy to come in and tell people to get real.'

Thanks for doing your part!
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Re: Getting It Off My Chest
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2015, 05:17:15 PM »
Sorry, I'm confused here, are you Chuck or are you just cutting and pasting Chuck's words?

This group is going to take a lot stronger hand than yours to shape them up....Like herding cats you know.  So far only the Coach has demonstrated a modicum of control over us.

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Re: Getting It Off My Chest
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2015, 05:45:10 PM »
Sorry, I'm confused here, are you Chuck or are you just cutting and pasting Chuck's words?

This group is going to take a lot stronger hand than yours to shape them up....Like herding cats you know.  So far only the Coach has demonstrated a modicum of control over us.

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Re: Getting It Off My Chest
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2015, 05:58:28 PM »
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I am new and this might be my only post.

I quit reading right there. I'm not wasting time on some asshole that swoops and poops his brains out all at once.

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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2015, 06:23:53 PM »
I quit reading right there. I'm not wasting time on some asshole that swoops and poops his brains out all at once.

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There's no damn wine smilie for this, dammit.
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Yeah, being nice and ladylike the way I tend to be  :lmao: I had a post all fired up ready to go earlier about this dude (who has indeed swooped and shit) but decided to refrain. 
Thanks and hi 5 for flushing the toilet.
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Re: Getting It Off My Chest
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2015, 06:25:35 PM »
The coffee's for closers.
And sprinkles are for winners, according to Fran.
For whoever doesn't understand my reference, thank your lucky star you don't watch tv enough to choke on the commercials.
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Re: Getting It Off My Chest
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2015, 07:02:38 PM »
To answer to all of you.  I am Chuck and I am Charles the poster.  I did this last night but wanted to build a larger group who, if they agree, could get the word out to the 2 million sit at homes that cost us the election in 2012.  I will now pay some attention to other posts and see if this is a good home for me.  I am 73 and the good news is that unless we have a nuke war the govt can't do much more to me so I can sit back and watch the circus.  HAGD

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Re: Getting It Off My Chest
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2015, 07:07:19 PM »
Welcome, Chuck. 

Where are you from, and how'd you find us? 

73- you're right at my father's age.

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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2015, 07:11:53 PM »
Found this place by trial and error.  Google then looked at a couple and settled on this one.  I live in N. Carolina now but am originally from Chicago.  I am a news junkie mostly FOX, play Forge of Empires on the net, Sing in an old folks choir and work with my local Marine Corps League.  Wife a farm girl from Central Illinois, cooks like a registered chef, and enjoys all the cop shows we watch on TV.  Retirement is great.

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Re: Getting It Off My Chest
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2015, 07:17:18 PM »
Boudicca: I sure am not here to control anyone.  The only thing that keeps me from throwing things at the TV is venting my frustrations on occasions.  I have learned in this long life controlling anyone is not real easy or not important.  I look for straight honest discussion and not emotion.  Kind of like Bill O'Reilly.  No Spin but facts.  Glad to meet you.

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Re: Getting It Off My Chest
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2015, 07:18:09 PM »
I am new and this might be my only post.  It is for those who did not vote in the last two presidential elections. This was posted last night on Facebook to my friends and family.  No response is needed unless you want to. 

THE STATE OF OUR COUNTRY by Chuck Stotz

What I am about to post will not sit well with some of my family and friends. If this posting offends you then I am truly sorry, ask for your forgiveness and ask you to dump this post in the electronic round basket.

For those of you who agree with this posting I ask you to pass it on to all of your friends on Facebook and I ask them to do the same.

I post this out of love of country, the one I served as a United States Marine and the one that has given me (under God) the best life I could have possibly imagined.

What set me off were the Russians telling us to leave Syria. This is just the last straw on a bale of hay that has been building for the past 7 years. Now you think I am going to bash President Obama and his council of leaders that surround him. No that is not what I am going to do.

I blame the 2 or 3 million conservatives and Republicans who did not go to the poles in 2012 because our candidate did not fit some notion of conservatism or religion or whatever. If you were one of those then any response to me will go unheard for you get what you don’t vote for. I was not one of those. It seems that in the Republican Party you need to be Joan of Arc, Richard the Lionhearted, General Douglas MacArthur, Condoleezza Rice or some other Knight or Lady on a Hill that will ride down and save us from whatever doom we conjure up at the moment. I am sorry to report to you that this person does not exist, say-one who is religious enough, conservative enough, states-person enough, tall enough, good looking enough, on and on.

It is time for us to GET REAL and, if we really believe that the country is on the wrong track, then get behind whoever is the nominee of the Party and show up at the poles. If you stay home again you will definitely get what you didn’t vote for.

PS to the Republican Candidates - GET REAL YOURSELVES. Tell us what you are going to do and not what the other candidate looks like, said about you or whatever little prissy thing you all are doing to win this nomination. There will be plenty of that CR$^%# in the main event.

Well, I have wanted to get that off my chest for a long time and now that I have I can go to bed. Good night all of my friends and family (who by the way are also my friends)

Since you "unloaded" I feel compelled to do the same.  I am sorry, but the GOP establishment has done NOTHING since Obama has taken office.  Through his executive orders, many rounds of playing the "blame game" and the liberal leadership of the GOP it is quite apparent that there is very little difference between the liberal left progressives and the GOP establishment.

I for one, REFUSE to vote for a Republican In Name Only.  If I want a liberal in the office I would vote for one. 

Perhaps you have not heard the speech that Senator Ted Cruz gave regarding McConnell.  I have provided the link so that you can hear it.  I don't know how it will affect you, but it brought tears to my eyes.  Not because he validated what most of us have realized for quite some time has been going on, especially in the Senate, but because he had the COURAGE TO SPEAK OUT AND TELL THE TRUTH!!

I feel that it is my duty to my country to VOTE MY CONSCIOUS. Not to vote just for party, but to vote for the best candidate regardless of party.  Voting just for the sake of party is why we are in the mess that we are in! Secondly, I most respectfully appreciate the service and dedication of those in the military.  I feel I owe it to each and every one of them to do my part in helping to restore this country instead of continuing it on it's current path of destruction.  Voting DEM or RINO will certainly continue this country towards destruction.  I will write in a candidate or vote 3rd party if need be, but I WILL NOT vote just for the sake of party.  There is too much at stake. 

The way I see it, one can chose to vote to restore this country or one can vote to continue it's destruction. 

Ted Cruz 2016.  Reigniting the PROMISE OF AMERICA!

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Re: Getting It Off My Chest
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2015, 07:26:36 PM »
libertybele:  Believe it or not I agree to a point.  We can all promote the leader we want to win but in the end when the chips are all played and we have a candidate, those who have set their litmess test so high will just have to sit at home an complain about something they really did nothing about.  I want Rubio or yes, even Cruz or anyone but Trump but when the end comes my duty is support that person that comes close to my values.  There is no Democrat that comes close.  I will do my God and Country Duty and vote even if I have to hold my nose in the outhouse. 

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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2015, 07:54:39 PM »
Boudicca: I sure am not here to control anyone.  The only thing that keeps me from throwing things at the TV is venting my frustrations on occasions.  I have learned in this long life controlling anyone is not real easy or not important.  I look for straight honest discussion and not emotion.  Kind of like Bill O'Reilly.  No Spin but facts.  Glad to meet you.

Well, I give you lots of credit for actually introducing yourself, Fundraiser.  So, my apologies, but the Cave has been burned plenty by a one off poster who comes, shits on our parade, and leaves without any further explanation of motive, which we naturally assume to be nefarious.
So, since you were nice enough to introduce yourself, let me apologize for maybe being a bitch, but you see, I have *talked* to thundley plenty and you just came and made a post like we were your Facebook friends when we didn't know you from Adam.  I am pretty sure if anyone came here with an agenda to control any of us they would be sadly disillusioned.  Sort of like we are with the lying Republicans we put in charge of our government.  You see, we did control how Obama could rule by pulling purse strings.  Bonehead refused to do that.  Although the Senate under Turtles Mcconnell would have obstructed all kinds of new laws (and did) he couldn't control the House's refusal to fund the madness that the Obama administration.  However, the asshat in charge of the House, Boehner, declined to mount any sort of challenge to the crazy dimmie crap issuing out of Obama's mouth.  We are more than disillusioned at this point; we are pissed off and ready for a change.
Rubio dug himself a hole with me with his crap about collaborating with the Dim Senators re a path to citizenship for the illegal criminals in our country.  I might vote for him if he's the nominee but only if he allows Trump to build that big beautiful wall.  I love Cruz, as do many on this board, but my guy is Trump so hang around and we'll dance. :-)
Seriously though, I doubt it was the conservatives boycotting the last election that put the retard Obama in office; it was rather the myriad of unenlightened morons who pollute our college campuses and their mommas' basements. 
Lastly, Semper Fi, my son was honorably discharged from the Marines and is now working as an EMT, but is very proud of being a Marine because once a Marine, always a Marine.  My husband served 30 years in the Army and I did a whole lot less at 5 1/2 years (thank goodness or I wouldn't have met him in Germany).
So, anyway, hope you stick around.  And, glad to meet you too, although we usually do this in the Intro Forum.  I don't understand this stuff about Chuck that you and Bad Dog are talking about, so maybe you already introduced yourself a long time ago.
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Re: Getting It Off My Chest
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2015, 08:23:43 PM »
Welcome, Chuck.   :cheersmate:

My mother-in-law used to call me Chuck, even though that ain't my name.

As everybody knows, my name is Eupher, aka Euph.

I have no idea where she got "Chuck" from. Except, of course, she suffered from dementia.

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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2015, 08:49:22 PM »
Welcome, Chuck.   :cheersmate:

My mother-in-law used to call me Chuck, even though that ain't my name.

As everybody knows, my name is Eupher, aka Euph.

I have no idea where she got "Chuck" from. Except, of course, she suffered from dementia.

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You forgot to mention your parrots. :thatsright:  I don't associate Chuck with you, Eupher, you are Parrot Daddy to me. :)
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Re: Getting It Off My Chest
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2015, 09:16:09 PM »
Thanks to all.  I will watch the topics but I may not participate a lot unless I see something that interests me.  I am really sitting out the Republican contest until after the first three primaries.  By that time the low hanging fruit will be gone and we can get down to serious discussions on the ones left (er I mean Right lol).  I actually watch Fox News for the absolute humor in the news.  How dumb some of the members of congress, pundents and most especially the spinners in the Demo Party.  It is better than a comedy show.  Now the trouble with Russia may not be so funny in a few months.  I wish I kept my 50s Bomb Shelter.

Semper Fi to your son Boudicca and a big OORah also.  The only x marine was Lee Harvey Oswald. 

Charles was my middle name but I chose to use it because it seemed more athletic back in the 50s.

Good night all.  I will look in tomorrow.

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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2015, 09:52:43 PM »
I actually watch Fox News for the absolute humor in the news.  How dumb some of the members of congress, pundents and most especially the spinners in the Demo Party.  It is better than a comedy show. 

Well, if it's political humor you're after, we may have just the forum to interest you.  :-)




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Re: Getting It Off My Chest
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2015, 08:45:55 AM »
BS given for telling me how I should vote.

Our present situation is NOT the fault of 2-3 million conservatives sitting out the 2012 election.
Its the fault of the GOP establishment for not offering the base what it wants.
~~we live in a representative govt. If you cannot represent the wishes of the people do not expect to get their votes.

Look at 2014. The GOPe rode the anti-Obama wave to victory. They were elected to STOP Obama.
But instead, they cave to everything Obama wants,
~~If there is no difference from a democrat congress, why vote republican?

I for one will NOT vote for a RINO ever again. I didn't leave the party, the party left me.
I done with holding my nose and voting for Democrat light.
Don't like it, go to..you know where.



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« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2015, 09:01:14 AM »
Well Mr Mannn I think you have the full right to act as you see fit.  The only thing you really don't need to do is to tell me where to go.  I once had a Baptist tell me that because I was a Catholic that I was going to Hell.  I told him this may be true but this he would not be at the gate to tell me that.  The real trouble today is that we use poor language and character assassination and epithets along with personal judgments against those with differing opinions .  What I will be looking for at this forum is fact based opinion that just might change my mind as to whom I would like to vote.  If you do not plan to vote because of your values this is fine.  I will vote for the person that comes close to my principles for I know that there never is one person that meets all of my principles. In my opinion a non vote is a submission and a gift to the candidate that meets non of my values and principles.   HAGD

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« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2015, 09:16:11 AM »
Well Mr Mannn I think you have the full right to act as you see fit.  The only thing you really don't need to do is to tell me where to go.  I once had a Baptist tell me that because I was a Catholic that I was going to Hell.  I told him this may be true but this he would not be at the gate to tell me that.  The real trouble today is that we use poor language and character assassination and epithets along with personal judgments against those with differing opinions .  What I will be looking for at this forum is fact based opinion that just might change my mind as to whom I would like to vote.  If you do not plan to vote because of your values this is fine.  I will vote for the person that comes close to my principles for I know that there never is one person that meets all of my principles. In my opinion a non vote is a submission and a gift to the candidate that meets non of my values and principles.   HAGD

Glad to hear that the Republican establishment can count on your vote.  They have already selected Boner's replacement, Mitch is hanging tough and Mitt is contemplating getting back in the race.  How could we resist voting for such a strong conservative slate.

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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2015, 09:26:23 AM »
Totally agree.  It is very early to be counting chickens.  Even if some of those chickens are running for office.  My decision will not be made until my North Carolina Primary.  Since I do not have any money at this time to donate I want the field to become tighter.  I plan to donate my small gift for the General Election.  Let's see what Iowa and New Hampshire has to say. 

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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2015, 09:28:55 AM »
You forgot to mention your parrots. :thatsright:  I don't associate Chuck with you, Eupher, you are Parrot Daddy to me. :)

Guilty as charged. Chuck, I have a history with parrots. They seem to grow on me, so once in a while I'll sprout a feather and fly away.  :rotf:
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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2015, 09:29:37 AM »
I will add though that I am a little unhappy that we do not use the rules to our benefit as do the Democrats.  As Butch would say-there are no rules in a knife fight.  Or as a shariff once said.  Bring a gun to a knife fight and bring a big gun to a gun fight and many is better than few so bring a gun with lots of bullets.