Darn it. Sometimes you just have to wonder how these people feed themselves.
Classic DU on this thread.
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10027098386pampango (20,415 posts)
Shock Poll Rates Sweden’s Anti-Immigrant Right-Wing Party as Country’s Largest
According to a poll carried out by YouGov, the Sweden Democrats, a party with its roots in the country’s neo-Nazi movement, now has the support of 25.2 percent of Swedes. Two other parties that spent the 20th and 21st centuries basically trading power with one another — the Moderates and the Social Democrats — took home 21.0 percent and 23.4 percent, respectively. The Social Democrats currently hold power in a minority coalition government.
The poll is a shock result for Sweden. Since the Sweden Democrats first entered parliament, in 2010, establishment parties and the media have carried out a systematic campaign to marginalize the right-wing populist party as racist and xenophobic. But that failed to stop the party’s forward march in the 2014 election to become Sweden’s third-largest party.
On both the left and right, Swedish politicians are promising new solutions and proposals to better deal with immigration, but this is the basic tactic that has been promulgated for the last 10 years. All the while, the Sweden Democrats have made restricting immigration their core issue and are now reaping the benefits as 46 percent of participants in the YouGov poll rated immigration as the most important political question.
So sit back and watch and see if the European establishment can come up with a solution to deal with the migrant crisis or whether it will continue to cede this issue — and public support — to the continent’s growing band of anti-immigrant right-wing parties.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/08/20/shock-poll-rates-swedens-anti-immigrant-right-wing-party-as-countrys-largest/
The methodology of this poll may overstate the support for the right-wing anti-immigrant party but the trend is unmistakable. Heck, the same anti-immigrant sentiment is being exploited by Trump far from Sweden and the rest of Europe.
Now it might be worthy to note that Barney wants to make the US just like Sweden so this thread should be loaded with ovulation for the wonderfulness of things Swedish right? Maybe not so much.
Anyway on to the main event: Randy1
randys1 (8,975 posts)
2. So white supremacist assholes are not unique to America.
I say if you want to draw invisible lines on the ground and tell people in need they cant cross them, expect a war.
Star Member Fred Sanders (15,931 posts)
3. Indeed. A large band of white supremacists and their white supremacist politicians does not make America exceptional.
Golden Dawn, German skinheads, French le Pen.....same sub-human white hatred and self-loathing projected onto others who look different.
Response to randys1 (Reply #2)
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:13 PM
davidn3600 (4,295 posts)
4. Populations don't typically like large numbers of immigrants
You'll find similar sentiment in France. Some of the more right wing parties are gaining popular support.
These kind of anti-immigration parties are gaining popularity all over Europe. The migrant crisis from Northern Africa, and the EU's non-response, is fanning those flames.
This isn't a mentality that is found only in the USA. Most populations don't like large amounts of immigration.
Response to davidn3600 (Reply #4)
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:15 PM
randys1 (8,975 posts)
5. All goes back to the ABSURDITY of allowing individuals to own land, or in this case
allowing a group to form arbitrary invisible lines on the land and then tell people they cant cross them.
Wars usually settle these things.
Response to randys1 (Reply #5)
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:22 PM
davidn3600 (4,295 posts)
6. You are talking about human civilization
It's always been this way. Nations, people, groups, etc, have always drawn lines in the sand and said "this is our land!"
And yes, wars have started that way. And wars in the future will start that way.
And perhaps it's mother nature. Lots of animal species claim territory and will fight off rivals who try to take control of it.
Response to davidn3600 (Reply #6)
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:24 PM
randys1 (8,975 posts)
8. We are suppose to evolve, right?
Response to randys1 (Reply #8)
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 06:08 PM
snagglepuss (10,877 posts)
10. How many homeless people are living in your home?
After all private living space is also a social construct. Have you evolved beyond that? If not than you're being hypocritical.
Response to snagglepuss (Reply #10)
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 06:15 PM
randys1 (8,975 posts)
12. So ALL or nothing, got it. If I do some to help, that is NO ****ING GOOD
got it.
I dont expect most people to be evolved yet, so we are wasting our time here
Response to randys1 (Reply #12)
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 06:47 PM
snagglepuss (10,877 posts)
13. You haven't answered my question as to what steps you have taken
in your life to abolish the socially constructed notion of private space . Think global, act local.
Response to snagglepuss (Reply #13)
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 06:49 PM
randys1 (8,975 posts)
14. Doesnt matter, according to you if I dont do it all instantly then nothing should be done.
Why do you want to use imaginary lines to exclude pool and sentence them to death?
Response to randys1 (Reply #14)
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 07:08 PM
snagglepuss (10,877 posts)
16. I'm asking what "steps" have you taken. By all appearances
you have taken no steps in your life to cast off your private space. I merely want to point out that if you as an individual see value in keeping your door locked, it's hypocritical to condemn national borders.
Snagglepuss puts two down Randy1's stack. Randy1 disappears from the rest of the thread.
Lots of soul searching goes on in this rather long thread which I recommend be read in its entirety at the DUmp.
