let's listen in as three ghouls discuss killing the elderly

[BattleHymn]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11831795

Sat Aug 15, 2015, 07:51 PM
Star Member TexasBushwhacker (4,000 posts)

Getting old stinks!

I've kept in touch with Henry, one of my mother's cousins, for years. He's 88 now and the last couple of e-mails I wrote to him, he didn't reply. I got a reply from his daughter in law today. He used to use hearing aids and he quit driving several years ago because of macular degeneration. DIL said they put him in a nursing home about a month ago. His grandson was living with him, but Henry had several falls. He also is now totally deaf and almost totally blind. They communicate with him by using a whiteboard. He loved his dog, Rusty, but now he can't have him.

He LOVED using his computer and kept in touch with people all over the country by e-mail. He even had a few international friends. He and his late wife were educational missionaries back in the late 50's and 60's in Afghanistan and Iran. He lived to paint and was quite talented. Such an interesting, happy sweet man. I asked his DIL how his health was otherwise, but she hasn't replied yet. Sad to say, but I'm kind of hoping his health isn't to good, because the thought if him wasting away, being deaf and functionally blind just breaks my heart.

Sat Aug 15, 2015, 09:16 PM
Star Member Curmudgeoness (17,361 posts)
1. I keep hoping

that I don't live long enough to be in that situation, but one never knows. I also keep hoping that I might have the legal ability to put a stop to it when it gets to that point.

I am sorry that you have to worry about him. Too bad you are not close to where he is, but from my experience, that would not help the way you feel.

Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:46 AM
Star Member Stardust (3,144 posts)
3. I wonder if our country will ever be compassionate about right-to-die. It probably won't happen

in my lifetime, if ever. I would like nothing more than to be able to check out when I thought it was time.

Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:40 PM
Star Member TexasBushwhacker (4,000 posts)
4. Frankly, there may be some push back from

the medical community. Keeping people alive is very lucrative for some doctors. I'm with you though. I was my mother's caregiver for 6 years through her battle with breast cancer. The last 2 months were pretty bad. I would much prefer to be able to end my life peacefully, surrounded by my loved ones.

There's a really good documentary called "How to Die in Oregon".

Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:29 PM
Star Member Stardust (3,144 posts)
5. I'm so sorry about your mother--you were wonderful to take care of her Since I live fairly close

to Oregon, I may just have to move there when the time comes. Hopefully, I'll have have enough sense to do it by then.

I'll definitely check out that documentary.

My thought is, it's my life and I should damn well be able to decide when and if I want to end it. **** the medical community, IMHO.

Why wait?  How about now?

Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:47 PM
Star Member TexasBushwhacker (4,000 posts)
6. I agree

Regarding my mother, it was the hardest and best thing I ever did. It cost me dearly, but I have no regrets. It's like being drafted. It's not something you want to happen, but when it does you serve honorably and to the best of your ability. You also find out who the draft dodgers are in your family!

Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:57 PM
Star Member Curmudgeoness (17,361 posts)
7. That is a lovely way to look at it.

I was lucky enough to stay with my mother for quite a while before she got sick, and she went peacefully at the end after only a month of being sick. Actually, she was dying and the hospital gave two choices---try all they could to save her or "help her be pain free until she died". We chose the latter and what they really meant was to pump morphine into her until her heart stopped. This was plain and simple euthanasia, but no one ventured the word. I was grateful since she had already been through so much. And this was not in a death-with-dignity state.

Sun Aug 16, 2015, 03:02 PM
Star Member TexasBushwhacker (4,000 posts)
9. I'm sure this happens a lot

The problem is, by having to do it on the sly, they can't let anyone know and the family may not be able to be with their loved when they die.

Sun Aug 16, 2015, 03:12 PM
Star Member Curmudgeoness (17,361 posts)
10. We were lucky that they gave us the choice.

And that they called to let us know we had to get back to the hospital right away. So we were there, but you are right...the family should all have the opportunity to gather and see their loved one go peacefully without pain.

[JohnnyReb]

DUmmie said, "We chose the latter and what they really meant was to pump morphine into her until her heart stopped. This was plain and simple euthanasia, " No, it was not euthanasia. Using Morphine to kill pain will eventually kill you, shut down kidneys, stop liver function, etc, but at least you die relatively pain free maybe a week sooner than you would have with a lot of pain.

[USA4ME]

TexasBushwhacker

I would much prefer to be able to end my life peacefully.

And you can, primitive. Just buy a bottle of extra strength Tylenol and take it all. You'll fall asleep quietly and not wake up. Problem solved for all of us.

.

[JohnnyReb]

And you can, primitive. Just buy a bottle of extra strength Tylenol and take it all. You'll fall asleep quietly and not wake up. Problem solved for all of us.

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A guy down the road took 200 of them. The Tylenol killed his liver and it took a week to die a painful death.

[SVPete]

Right to die ... blah, blah ... compassionate ... blah, blah ... doctors get rich ... blah, blah ...

Those who play God quickly demonstrate their unworthiness.

[GOBUCKS]

Remember the Big Guy (who is dying) promised the DUmp he would commit suicide pretty soon.

It's been a while since he reminded everyone he's dying.

I'm sure lots of DUmpmonkeys don't remember that the Big Guy (who is dying) is dying, or that he promised suicide.

[BattleHymn]

A guy down the road took 200 of them. The Tylenol killed his liver and it took a week to die a painful death.

SHHHHHHHHH.   You'll ruin the surprise!

[Boudicca]

My late brother-in-law was prescribed enough medication to kill himself, should he so desire.  He faced inoperable Stage IV peritoneal cancer and I witnessed first hand how horribly he suffered.  He chose to allow God to decide when to take him; however, for anyone in a like situation, although the doctors don't come out and say it, they do make it possible for you to decide to opt out a little early.  I haven't faced a like situation in my life, yet anyway, so no sense saying what I'd do.  But the bullshit about not being allowed to die at your discretion is not quite true.
Let's concentrate one tenth of the enthusiasm all you dummy pieces of shit have for aborting innocent, newborn babies in utero that you display towards allowing the old and ill to die...seems like the only humans these assholes believe deserve to live are convicted brutal murderers and Muslim religious terrorists.  The way a DUmmie liberal's mind operates, it wouldn't surprise me at all to find them advocating slicing and dicing 8-month old fetuses-BABIES-in order to harvest organs to keep alive some totally worthless waste of oxygen.

[98ZJUSMC]

And you can, primitive. Just buy a bottle of extra strength Tylenol and take it all. You'll fall asleep quietly and not wake up. Problem solved for all of us.

.

Faster, PLEASE!

SHHHHHHHHH.   You'll ruin the surprise!

[Aristotelian]

This has turned into the latest push for the culture of death crowd here in England.

'Right to die' for a short interlude before becoming 'obligation to be killed'.