Author Topic: Seattle protester the real deal... or something.  (Read 1206 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline dutch508

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12577
  • Reputation: +1731/-1068
  • Remember
Seattle protester the real deal... or something.
« on: August 09, 2015, 10:21:26 AM »
The woman at the BERNIE RALLY is black nationalist...

not sure why that matters. I suppose it poke a hole into the theory that Seattle was a VRWC hit-job rather than a Soros/Clinton hit-job...

Quote
gobears10 (147 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251503442

Quote
Marissa Johnson holds extremist black nationalist views


Marissa Johnson's primary allegiance is to an an called organization, Outside Agitators 206, which believes Democrats hope to "bury Black Lives Matter under an election blitz". Bernie's specific views and history don't matter to them. They're about disrupting any Democratic campaign that will let them anywhere near the stage -- and there's only one that will.

After looking around some more, I it seems that this group's belief that police have no legitimate function is rooted in ultra-left black nationalist ideology. This is a perspective not shared by all BLM activists or PoC at large.

It is "true" that Marissa Johnson is a "real" BLM activist. She genuinely has been very active in previous Seattle BLM actions, quoted extensively in media. But she's also very young and new to activism of any kind.

But it seems that her ideology is more rooted in the extremist far-left identity politics views of "Outside Agitators 206" rather than BLM, and the significance of the views that are not those of the whole BLM movement.

so... it's not BLM's fault? or something?

Quote
starroute (12,360 posts)
8. They've got a website

I looked at it earlier and it wasn't very revealing. Lots of rhetoric and not much to indicate who they are or what their allegiances are.

https://outsideagitators206.org/

https://www.facebook.com/outsideagitators206

We are the Outside Agitators 206.

First off, we have four points of unity:

*We center Black voices to celebrate and affirm Blackness. We believe that any movement to end anti-Black racism must be led by Black people.

*We believe that everyone has a right to resist their oppressors and what resistance looks like varies for different individuals and different circumstances.

*We don’t directly speak to corporate media, nor do we need them. We are our own voice.

***** the police: As an institution fundamentally rooted in white supremacy and anti-Blackness we reject the police presence in our communities, absolutely. It is our responsibility to hold each other accountable and keep each other safe.


 ::)  Black supremacists.

Quote
Joe the Revelator (11,763 posts)
3. When is BLM going to release something distancing themselves for her actions and comments?

She did it in their name, claims to be in charge of BLM Seattle.

Quote
HereSince1628 (32,266 posts)
5. Will the 4 other Dem campaigns come out and say Bernie is not a white supremacist?

In a manner not unlike how McCain took away the microphone when the woman went on a rant against Obama?

Quote
oasis (23,013 posts)
12. Activist my ass. She'll get nowhere fast being an impish blowhard.

[cough cough] Donald Trump [cough cough]

Quote
NCTraveler (7,616 posts)
13. I support Marissa Johnson.

You have made the point that she is an activist. This young woman stands the chance of being pulled over, harassed, and dead in a jail cell a couple of days later. Many of you don't get it. I will show her and BLM support before Sanders, O'Malley, Clinton, or Webb. Thankfully I seem to be able to support O'Malley and Marissa Johnson. I would be flat out disgusted to look into the background of individual members of a civil rights movement in an attempt to discredit them. It's like Fox News thinking they told the whole story of Trayvom Martin by three or four unflattering pictures. Guess what. That shit didn't work on me either.

 ::)

Quote
Ken Burch (37,152 posts)
46. They're acting like it's Bernie's fault that they're being killed in the streets

And like Bernie doesn't care about the killing.

BTW, when he was running Baltimore, O'Malley was just with black folks getting killed and never did a damn thing to stop it.

His having "a plan" now, when it's too late to matter for the black dead of his own city, doesn't make that go away.

Fister is a BERNIETROLL.

Quote
cali (103,357 posts)
17. so it's ok with you that she screamed, shoved, called Bernie and his supporters white supremacists,

demanded he bow down and apologize for offensives unspecified and refused to shake his hand or let him speak?

Thanks for so clearly defining who you really are.

Quote
NCTraveler (7,616 posts)
19. I am not going to go do opposition research on her...

When such a high percentage of POC are being jailed. When a POC was hunted down in the streets and killed like wild game. The dentist who killed the lion is having just as difficult a time as that sick **** Zimmerman who knew he had a license to kill POC. He knew he had the ****ing right to "bag one." That is their thought process. When a whole section of society is being oppressed. No, I'm not going to talk shit about her or dig into her background.

Been bow'n down at the hands of whites by threat of force for centuries. Simply turn that phrase around and look at the outrage.

who's insane?   :lol:

Quote
DemocraticWing (547 posts)
33. Uh, the Sanders coalition is one of the extreme left

Sure, it includes some moderate elements. But if you haven't noticed, a lot of us are socialists.

Bernie has more in common with Marissa Johnson than either she or you seem to realize.

The big difference is the Bernie is an old white male jew and she is a black woman.

No way in hell is a black militant nationalist gonna give a **** what an old white jew is going to say or do.

Quote
DemocraticWing (547 posts)
38. Racism against white people doesn't exist

I'm gonna be honest, I'm not sure why Bernie has attracted the Reddit/Libertarian crowd and their regressive view on social issues, but the Left is about elevating minorities, dismantling structural racism/sexism/homophobia, etc...not just talking about pocketbook issues.

 ::)

The torch of moral clarity since 12/18/07

2016 DOTY: 06 Omaha Steve - Is dying for ****'s face! How could you not vote for him, you heartless bastards!?!

Offline Aristotelian

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1589
  • Reputation: +167/-10
Re: Seattle protester the real deal... or something.
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2015, 10:40:17 AM »
Quote
DemocraticWing (547 posts)
33. Uh, the Sanders coalition is one of the extreme left

Sure, it includes some moderate elements. But if you haven't noticed, a lot of us are socialists.

Oh dear, this newbie doesn't get it. He acknowledges that he's part of the extreme left, and the socialism is part of the extreme left. Won't last at the DUmp until he realises that socialism is the moderate centre-ground.

Offline GOBUCKS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24186
  • Reputation: +1812/-339
  • All in all, not bad, not bad at all
Re: Seattle protester the real deal... or something.
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2015, 01:45:41 PM »
Quote
But it seems that her ideology is more rooted in the extremist far-left identity politics

Sounds like a pretty average democrat to me.

Offline Ptarmigan

  • Bunny Slayer
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24114
  • Reputation: +1020/-226
  • God Hates Bunnies
Re: Seattle protester the real deal... or something.
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2015, 02:27:02 PM »
I have been reading comments about this and some think those protesters are paid by Hillary Clinton.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
-Napoleon Bonaparte

Allow enemies their space to hate; they will destroy themselves in the process.
-Lisa Du

Offline wasp69

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7567
  • Reputation: +907/-520
  • Hillbilly Yeti
Re: Seattle protester the real deal... or something.
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2015, 02:39:34 PM »
I have often said it's no secret to those of us that pay attention how lily white liberals have abused and mistreated the black community in this country for decades.  It's no secret that you managed to convince these people that it is "in their best interest" to surrender their pride and dignity for a few crumbs from your table.  It's no secret that you trash are in big trouble when enough of them finally wake up to what you've been doing to them. 

Well, enjoy...   :popcorn:
"We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and then bid the geldings to be fruitful."

C.S. Lewis

A community may possess all the necessary moral qualifications, in so high a degree, as to be capable of self-government under the most adverse circumstances; while, on the other hand, another may be so sunk in ignorance and vice, as to be incapable of forming a conception of liberty, or of living, even when most favored by circumstances, under any other than an absolute and despotic government.

John C Calhoun, "Disquisition on Government", 1840

Offline 98ZJUSMC

  • The Most Deplorable
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8424
  • Reputation: +436/-76
  • Now, with 99% less yellow!
Re: Seattle protester the real deal... or something.
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2015, 03:33:22 PM »
Quote
cali (103,357 posts)
17. so it's ok with you that she screamed, shoved, called Bernie and his supporters white supremacists,

demanded he bow down and apologize for offensives unspecified and refused to shake his hand or let him speak?

Thanks for so clearly defining who you really are.

You stupid bint.  What do you think you have been following for the last six decades of your worthless, meaningless and, hopefully, soon to end existence?

 :bird:
« Last Edit: August 09, 2015, 03:36:42 PM by 98ZJUSMC »
              

Liberal thinking is a two-legged stool and magical thinking is one of the legs, the other is a combination of self-loating and misanthropy.  To understand it, you would have to be able to sit on that stool while juggling two elephants, an anvil and a fragmentation grenade, sans pin.

"Accuse others of what you do." - Karl Marx