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DanTex (8,502 posts) Meet two of Hillary's liberal billionaire supporters: George Soros and Tom Steyer.Both made their wealth managing hedge funds. Both have transitioned mainly to philanthropic endeavors. And both hold political views similar to most DUers. George Soros has been supporting progressive causes all over the world from some time. From anti-apartheid, to democratization in Eastern Europe, to donating to liberal groups in America like moveon, attempting to help defeat Bush, and supporting liberal politicians. Tom Steyer is more focused on a single issue, the environment. He founded the NextGen PAC, and has contributed both to politicians and to ballot initiatives, focused on trying to get people elected and policies enacted that will fight climate change. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Steyer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros All too often, the mindless Hillary bashing horde decries the "billionaires" supporting Hillary, as if all billionaires are the same as the Koch brothers. To say that all billionaires are conservatives who want to protect the current obscene levels of wealth inequality is like saying that all white people are racists who want to preserve the current state of racial injustice and white privilege. It may be the case that many or most billionaires/white people are like this, but certainly not all. And Soros and Steyer are clearly not part of that category. One fact that gets lost in the morass of Hillary bashing is that Bernie has rich supporters as well. In fact, of all people, he chose two men worth $150M each to introduce him in his first campaign event in Burlington. Ben and Jerry, from the ice cream company. No, they're not billionaires, but a $150M net worth puts you far beyond the 1% mark, wealthier than all but the very top executives at Wall Street banks. Does anyone think that the "association" with these uber-rich capitalists is some kind of indication that Bernie is secretly a tool of the oligarchy? Of course not. Because Ben and Jerry have supported progressive causes their whole lives. As have Hillary's wealthy supporters like Soros and Steyer.3
Stargazer99 (1,335 posts) 1. At least they are putting money in support of the people not just the wealthyReply to this postBack to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
Response to Stargazer99 (Reply #1)Wed Jul 29, 2015, 04:16 PMDanTex (8,502 posts) 2. Exactly. The fact that wealth inequality is so high doesn't mean that allwealthy people are bad. In fact a number of them (Warren Buffet is another example) are just as disturbed by income inequality as any other progressive. That's why it's important to distinguish between the Koch brothers and people like Steyer and Soros.Reply to this postBack to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
Response to DanTex (Original post)Wed Jul 29, 2015, 04:23 PMmsongs (36,635 posts) 3. so when a bilionaire endorses bernie, will all the bernie-ites abandon him? ntReply to this postBack to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
Response to msongs (Reply #3)Wed Jul 29, 2015, 04:24 PMDanTex (8,502 posts) 4. Well, they don't seem bothered by his close relationship with a couple $150M-aires.Imagine the outrage if Hillary's grand kickoff speech was introduced by a couple uber-rich capitalists!Reply to this postBack to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
Response to msongs (Reply #3)Wed Jul 29, 2015, 04:35 PMStar Member BainsBane (32,979 posts) 5. Billionaires for Bernie is a Super PACI haven't heard about people leaving Bernie because of it, or because the billionaire Elon Musk supports Bernie, or because a number of Hollywood one percenters support Bernie. I think it comes down to: money for Bernie good, money for Hillary bad.Reply to this postBack to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
Response to DanTex (Original post)Wed Jul 29, 2015, 04:56 PMAgony (2,085 posts) 6. you forgot Warren BuffetReply to this postBack to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
Response to DanTex (Original post)Wed Jul 29, 2015, 05:49 PMibegurpard (11,739 posts) 7. I don't want our government controlled by big moneyI don't give a shit whether they agree with me or not. More "our team" tribalism bullshit.Reply to this postBack to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink
Response to ibegurpard (Reply #7)Wed Jul 29, 2015, 05:52 PMDanTex (8,502 posts) 8. Neither do Soros and Steyer. Or Ben and Jerry. Or Hillary and Bernie.That's what makes defeating the GOP (which means voting for Hillary in the GE) so important.
When you're rich, so much of the pablum you profess will never affect you.
Ted Kennedy is the only person with an actual confirmed kill in the war on women.
Conservative rich generally want to create paths for others to follow to.Liberal rich generally want to only create paths to (personal) power.
Conservative rich generally want to create paths for others to follow to personal greatness.Liberal rich generally want to only create paths to (personal) power.
All too often, the mindless Hillary bashing horde decries the "billionaires" supporting Hillary, as if all billionaires are the same as the Koch brothers. To say that all billionaires are conservatives who want to protect the current obscene levels of wealth inequality...... It may be the case that many or most billionaires are like this, but certainly not all. And Soros and Steyer are clearly not part of that category.