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Offline libertybele

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Is ISIS Winning?
« on: June 06, 2015, 08:23:28 PM »
Apparently so it seems.  Interesting that in comparison; Bush's "Shock and Awe" campaign consisted of around 800 airstrikes a day to an average of just 15 airstrikes a day in Obama's degrade-and-destroy mission.  Barry started to withdraw troops in the region way too early for the sake of winning another election and as he was warned we are paying a very, very high price.

Is ISIS Winning?

It has been nine months since President Barack Obama set forth a policy—“degrade and destroy”—for dealing with the Islamic State (ISIS), the radical group that emerged as the successor to Al-Qaeda in Iraq. In that time, despite daily airstrikes, an increased tempo of training Iraqi troops and a wobbly coalition of 60 nations trying to combat ISIS, the group has made steady gains in both Iraq and Syria: It not only still controls the city of Mosul, on May 17, it routed Iraqi troops in the Sunni stronghold of Ramadi, about 70 miles from Baghdad. In Syria it took the strategic city of Palmyra. It has extended its reach into Libya and conducted its first terrorist attack in Saudi Arabia, blowing up a Shiite mosque in the eastern city of Qatif. Far from being degraded, the group Obama once infamously derided as “the jayvee” appears in the eyes of many, to be on the march. If the question is, ‘Is ISIS winning?’ the answer, for now, appears undeniable: Yes....

...If ISIS is winning, it is because of a “series of mistakes made by its opponents,” says Lina Khatib, director of the Carnegie Middle East Center. “I describe ISIS as water that seeps into the cracks—the cracks of policy and strategy of the international community.’’

Start in Syria: One of the underrated aspects of ISIS’s allure has been, simply, its wealth. Whether through oil sales or extortion, ISIS is not only able to pay fighters more than a moderate opposition group like the Free Syrian Army (FSA) can, it has set up social welfare services—just as Hamas has long done—that provide a war-weary population with “monetary gains and social services,” says Khatib. For example in Raqqa, the so-called capital of the Islamic State, ISIS now provides medical services. The international community’s response, she believes, has been inadequate. It has focused—belatedly—on training and arming the moderate opposition, and it has done little to counter ISIS’s economic strength....

...That plan is now in tatters. “The fall of Ramadi is a disaster,” says Jiyad. The United States, he says, “failed to airdrop in supplies, they failed to hit [ISIS] hard enough from the air. The American involvement was weak.”...

...For Washington, despite the obvious downside of an intensified air campaign—civilian casualties—that is probably the only realistic option. There has been an average of just 15 airstrikes a day in the degrade-and-destroy mission—compared with around 800 during the “shock and awe” campaign that kicked off the 2003 invasion. The 3,000 U.S. troops the U.S. has deployed to Iraq are stuck behind the wire, analysts say. Even Canadian special forces have more room to maneuver than their American counterparts, sources say. The rules of engagement need to be loosened, and U.S. forces need to be more involved in calling in airstrikes, as well as working more closely with Iraqi special operators—who are respected and well trained—to go after key ISIS members in the country....

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/06/12/isis-winning-338027.html
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Re: Is ISIS Winning?
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2015, 09:37:45 PM »
I don't think that the Magic Negro wants to defeat the ISIS or greatly agitate the ragheads. 

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Re: Is ISIS Winning?
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2015, 05:18:10 AM »
I don't think that the Magic Negro wants to defeat the ISIS or greatly agitate the ragheads.

H5, and I agree 100%.  Remember something from one of Obama's books--he said something to the effect that, in a conflict between the West and Islam, he would side with Islam every time.

It fulfills one of Saul Alinsky's 'Rules,' in that it shows chaos, or it will, soon.
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Re: Is ISIS Winning?
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2015, 06:07:56 AM »
ISIS is winning... Because we have an idiot in charge who was in such a rush to get us out of Iraq, he didn't look at the second or third level effects. And now, the Iraqis are paying the price for his hubris.

He can't admit he made a mistake, he can't admit that Daesh isn't the 'JV' team he told the world they are. I seriously wonder if Baghdad Bob is on his staff, because he's the only person I know who is capable of such blatant ignorance in the face of facts... Although Obama could probably give him a run for his money in that department.
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Re: Is ISIS Winning?
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2015, 06:43:05 AM »
ISIS is winning... Because we have an idiot in charge who was in such a rush to get us out of Iraq, he didn't look at the second or third level effects. And now, the Iraqis are paying the price for his hubris.

He can't admit he made a mistake, he can't admit that Daesh isn't the 'JV' team he told the world they are. I seriously wonder if Baghdad Bob is on his staff, because he's the only person I know who is capable of such blatant ignorance in the face of facts... Although Obama could probably give him a run for his money in that department.

Barry withdrew troops when he did to get re-elected.  He knew full well and was warned by many as to what the consequences would be.  He was told/warned by his military advisors, Cheney, Romney, etc.  He didn't do it with ignorance; he acted with full knowledge.  His goal is to transform America and inflict as much turmoil and destruction as he can.  He is a traitor and at their very least should have been charged with treason and impeachment proceedings should have been started a long time ago. 534 members of Congress have done nothing! Which brings us back to another thread in this forum as to who is the real enemy: RINO's!!!
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Re: Is ISIS Winning?
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2015, 08:13:05 AM »
Maybe.....I'm still waiting for the varsity team to show up.
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Re: Is ISIS Winning?
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2015, 08:48:22 AM »
Maybe.....I'm still waiting for the varsity team to show up.

Good one.
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