DUmmies Discuss Crazy Bernie And Gun Control

[GOBUCKS]

Wed May 6, 2015, 09:14 PM
Ron Green (7,298 posts)

Gun control is a distraction, a minor issue

compared to the issue of building a more connected, peaceful and fair society.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026632741#post2
Translation: Crazy Bernie, who has an "F" rating from the NRA, once failed to take the most extreme anti-gun position.

Hildebeast supporters have jumped on that, putting Crazy Bernie to the right of Charlton Heston.

Wed May 6, 2015, 09:17 PM
AuntPatsy (8,356 posts)
1. Not really, gun owners take their rights much more seriously than they do for

Say Women's rights, racial equality, labor reform, etc....

Wed May 6, 2015, 09:18 PM
Star Member darkangel218 (10,725 posts)
2. You are wrong.

I am a gun owner and what you say is absolutely not true.

I don't like to think of the mentally-ill DUmpangelnumbers with a loaded gun.

Wed May 6, 2015, 09:19 PM
Star Member NYC_SKP (67,548 posts)
4. In that sense, Sanders will appeal to a far broader range of voters.

Personally, I don't have a problem with Sanders' record on gun laws, except for the limit on magazine capacity.

Skippy thinks Crazy Bernie will appeal to people concerned about Second Amendment rights.

More evidence that his brain surgeon scooped out a few tablespoons of gray matter from the wrong spot.

Wed May 6, 2015, 09:28 PM
Star Member darkangel218 (10,725 posts)
10. No it will not.

Sanders is an honest person who cares about the people. He doesn't care about taking bribes from 1%s and selling his soul to wall street. He is genuine. People will vote for him and what he stands for.

DUmpangelnumbers may need that gun for protection against Jugs and the rest of the Hildebeast gang.

      

Wed May 6, 2015, 10:56 PM
VScott (774 posts)
28. No.

Just because some sub-human, POS, assholes have to resort to using firearms, etc,
and other other sub-human, POS, assholes respond in kind over petty ass bullshit, is no reason enact
more gun control, legislation.

Deal with the gang problem first, then maybe we can discuss the gun problem.

Enjoy your stay at the DUmp.

Thu May 7, 2015, 09:28 AM
stone space (2,838 posts)
57. Sub-human? What exactly is a "sub-human"?

Is a "sub-human" anything like a "gang banger" or a "thug"?

Wed May 6, 2015, 10:43 PM
Exilednight (6,421 posts)
26. Detoxification begins with removing the

Antibody, which in this case is guns. Only a moran would believe that there is no corolation between legalized guns and violence. The proof is in, and countries with strict gun controls have less violent crime - PERIOD, END OF DEBATE.

My solution: all guns begin "legal". If you want to own a gun that it is registered to you for life. If someone steals it and it's involved in a crime, then you and the person who stole it are BOTH held accountable. If you want to own a gun then you need to be held responsible for it. If you ever want to get rid of it, then you its turn it in to the authorities.

Thu May 7, 2015, 11:27 AM
derby378 (29,984 posts)
81. Period? End of debate? Let me introduce you to Mexico...

 

Thu May 7, 2015, 02:42 PM
Exilednight (6,421 posts)
118. A gun only has a single purpose in modern society. It is used

Strictly to kill. A gun has no other practical use. Target shooting has no value to modern society, neither does hunting simce it's not required to survive in modern society.

Thu May 7, 2015, 11:16 AM
theboss (9,721 posts)
76. The issue with gun ****rol is that the Left has lost and lost badly.

I'm not sure where we even go at this point.

Thu May 7, 2015, 11:35 AM
derby378 (29,984 posts)
83. We start by recognizing that gun legislation is not a right-wing vs. left-wing issue

The party is going to have to make peace with gun owners. Notice I didn't say "make peace with the NRA" - right now, that's impossible. Reach out to the average gun owner in America with a plan for gun legislation that is doable and Constitutional without being overreaching.

Common sense gun control!! A democrat favorite!


A great rant by Jugs! The Ku Klux Klams are all-in for the Hildebeast:

Thu May 7, 2015, 01:05 PM
BainsBane (31,135 posts)
106. millions of human lives

are minor. A culture of violence, war and militarization, minor. Human life pales in comparison to what you care about, which is what exactly? "Peaceful society"? There is no peaceful society when we exist in a continual state of domestic war, when police kill citizens and people like you turn a blind eye and call it minor.

The callous disregard for human life is appalling.
...
I'm sick of hearing the privileged tell the rest of us how little we matter. You don't give a **** about our lives, so **** your elitist politics.

This is the last straw. The complete contempt for the poor and disenfranchised by people claiming to be liberals is repulsive. You want everyone to forsake their basic rights, and now even our lives, to satisfy the white middle- and upper-middle class' anger at Wall Street. You are not worth more than the people being killed by guns in the inner city, though it's pretty clear you think you are. The arrogance and disregard for human life is as contemptible a position as I've seen. If that is what supporting Sanders is about, hell will freeze over before I empower people who openly dismiss the deaths of millions of Americas, more dead through gun violence since 1968 than in all the wars in US history. How could their lives matter compared to your desire for an entertainer in chief to be on cable TV and make you feel good about yourselves? This post shows those words of "connected and peaceful" are complete artifice when you invoke them to justify millions of deaths.

Congratulations for sinking Sanders' candidacy. I knew if anyone could do it, it would be people on this site. People here are a prime example of why no one outside your little in-crowd wants anything to do with you or your elitist class project. You keep up the great and noble fight for the 10 percent vs. the 1 percent. I'm going to look after myself because clearly you don't give a shit ablout my basic right to life, a mere "minor concern."

 

[Big Dog]

Shit, who pulled the pin on Alex's tampon?

[Duke Nukum]

Wed May 6, 2015, 10:43 PM
Exilednight (6,421 posts)
26. Detoxification begins with removing the

Antibody, which in this case is guns. Only a moran would believe that there is no corolation between legalized guns and violence. The proof is in, and countries with strict gun controls have less violent crime - PERIOD, END OF DEBATE.

My solution: all guns begin "legal". If you want to own a gun that it is registered to you for life. If someone steals it and it's involved in a crime, then you and the person who stole it are BOTH held accountable. If you want to own a gun then you need to be held responsible for it. If you ever want to get rid of it, then you its turn it in to the authorities.

And thus, I conclude my argument as to why a Liberal Democrat should never be allowed to hold public office in a democratic republic.

[fatboy]

Thu May 7, 2015, 01:05 PM
BainsBane (31,135 posts)
106. millions of human lives are minor......


 If that is what supporting Sanders is about, hell will freeze over before I empower people who openly dismiss the deaths of millions of Americas, more dead through gun violence since 1968 than in all the wars in US history. How could their lives matter compared to your desire for an entertainer in chief to be on cable TV and make you feel good about yourselves? This post shows those words of "connected and peaceful" are complete artifice when you invoke them to justify millions of deaths.

Congratulations for sinking Sanders' candidacy. I knew if anyone could do it, it would be people on this site. People here are a prime example of why no one outside your little in-crowd wants anything to do with you or your elitist class project. You keep up the great and noble fight for the 10 percent vs. the 1 percent. I'm going to look after myself because clearly you don't give a shit ablout my basic right to life, a mere "minor concern."

Gee, and I thought Bernie Sanders was a kook.

[Duke Nukum]

And thus, I conclude my argument as to why a Liberal Democrat should never be allowed to hold public office in a democratic republic.

The other thing I should have pointed out is that an antibody is something that defends the body against intruders and disease. If it wasn't a genuine DUmmie, then maybe it is a very clever mole?

[thundley4]

My solution: all cars begin "legal". If you want to own a car that it is registered to you for life. If someone steals it and it's involved in a crime, then you and the person who stole it are BOTH held accountable. If you want to own a car then you need to be held responsible for it. If you ever want to get rid of it, then you its turn it in to the authorities.

Let's apply that theory to everything that could be used to commit a crime.

[jukin]

I'll just take three wars and provide some links and not pull lies out of my ass like a DUchebag.

Civil war: 618,222 dead
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/03/science/civil-war-toll-up-by-20-percent-in-new-estimate.html?_r=0

WWI: 116,708
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties

WWII: 407,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

That's a total of 1,141,930 dead American servicemen, not civilians.

Now saggy tits DUche said since 1968 (a good time frame because we could consider this as the dead due to the War on black...er poverty) for a grand total of 47 years. Now stick with me here LUrking DUchebags this is something called basic math and is well, RACIST, but I'm typing slow for all of you. 1,141,930/47 will give us the persons killed by GUNS (as opposed by people using guns) and that is 24,296/year on average.

Just to take an easy year I chose 2010. There were  8,875 true homicides (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl08.xls) and 19,312 suicides (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/05/24/suicides-account-for-most-gun-deaths/).

Now buckle in low IQers and drug addled brains of the DUmp more maths is on the way. Just the three wars mentioned on average was more than triple real homicides.  Now I think every DUchebag is for suicide and the suicides should be thrown out of the debate. After all those people would find another way that might even cause harm to others. Take out the black on black murders and the rate is well below northern european countries.

Maybe the saggy titted one was looking at balck abortion......no that is far higher.

[dutch508]

Shit, who pulled the pin on Alex's tampon?

Frank.

He doesn't like doing it the other way...

 

[obumazombie]

I'm glad jukin put the lie to coach franksolich's main squeeze (Bane's) claim.
Good job debunking that obvious false claim of Bane.

[Carl]

Thu May 7, 2015, 02:42 PM
Exilednight (6,421 posts)
118. A gun only has a single purpose in modern society. It is used

Strictly to kill. A gun has no other practical use. Target shooting has no value to modern society, neither does hunting simce it's not required to survive in modern society.

The same could be said about you DUmbasses.

[FiddyBeowulf]

Thu May 7, 2015, 01:05 PM
BainsBane (31,135 posts)
106. millions of human lives

are minor. A culture of violence, war and militarization, minor. Human life pales in comparison to what you care about, which is what exactly? "Peaceful society"? There is no peaceful society when we exist in a continual state of domestic war, when police kill citizens and people like you turn a blind eye and call it minor.

The callous disregard for human life is appalling.
...
I'm sick of hearing the privileged tell the rest of us how little we matter. You don't give a **** about our lives, so **** your elitist politics.

...You are not worth more than the people being killed by guns in the inner city, though it's pretty clear you think you are. 

I disagree. A good number of the people being killed are a net drain on community resources, being takers and not given back in the form of taxes or at least having a job.


The sad fact is if they were not being killed they would probably be killing someone.

[Big Dog]

Exilednight (6,421 posts) 
118. A gun only has a single purpose in modern society. It is used

Strictly to kill.

You say that like it's a bad thing, DUmbass.

[ADsOutburst]

Thu May 7, 2015, 02:42 PM
Exilednight (6,421 posts)
118. A gun only has a single purpose in modern society. It is used

Strictly to kill. A gun has no other practical use. Target shooting has no value to modern society, neither does hunting simce it's not required to survive in modern society.

Geez, don't you have, like, hobbies? You know, things you enjoy doing? Chances are, they have little value to anyone but yourself. That's the point of hobbies.

[SVPete]

Strictly to kill. A gun has no other practical use. Target shooting has no value to modern society, neither does hunting simce it's not required to survive in modern society.

Freedom means not having to account for or justify legal uses thereof. Just like Exilednight doesn't have to justify this stupid usage of his/her right of free speech - with or without the adjacent key typo I emphasized.

[obumazombie]

The claim that firearms possession have no value to modern society is irrational.
Self defense, and National defense have tremendous value.
As a military aviator, we were allowed to carry a personal firearm on our flight gear.
The utility of a firearm in a survival situation behind enemy lines would have unlimited value.