Freddy Gray's Death Ruled Homicide

[BuzzClik]

Charges to Be Filed Against Police in Freddie Gray Case

Baltimore's state's attorney announced Friday that there was probable cause in the Freddie Case case and that charges will be filed against six police officers in his death.

"I assured his family that no one is above the law and that I would pursue justice on their behalf," Marilyn Mosby said in a press conference on Friday.

The charges against the officers include second-degree murder, manslaughter, assault and misconduct in office, among others.

These are Mosby's first public comments on the case. Her announcement that her office's investigation had determined Gray's death was a homicide was met with cheers from Baltimore residents, who have held protests and riots demanding justice for the 25-year-old.

Gray was arrested April 12 and died a week later from his injuries. His death has prompted calls for police reform nationwide.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/baltimore-unrest/freddie-gray-n351881

[Big Dog]

And?

[BuzzClik]

And?

You see the Bulls game last night? What a blowout.

[HawkHogan]

You really it would be ruled a homocide, even if justified. 

Perhaps you should look on this shout box.  These bogus charges were predicted when the joke mayor was standing front of a "No Justice No Peace" sign.

[Big Dog]

You see the Bulls game last night? What a blowout.

Missed it. I was unplugged for the evening, reading and enjoying a good cigar.

So, what is your commentary on the story from Baltimore?

Mine is this: I wore the badge. I'm not suprised by the coroner's determination or the charges. When an officer's cuffs are on a suspect, that officer is responsible for the suspect's safety.

What I know is that I don't know the facts, and I avoid assumptions.

Who does know the facts?  Not the rioters, nor the mayor, nor Emperor Putmos, nor the chattering media monkeys, nor Skinner's Misbegotten Children, nor the Cavers.

[obumazombie]

Missed it. I was unplugged for the evening, reading and enjoying a good cigar.

So, what is your commentary on the story from Baltimore?

Mine is this: I wore the badge. I'm not suprised by the coroner's determination or the charges. When an officer's cuffs are on a suspect, that officer is responsible for the suspect's safety.

What I know is that I don't know the facts, and I avoid assumptions.

Who does know the facts?  Not the rioters, nor the mayor, nor Emperor Putmos, nor the chattering media monkeys, nor Skinner's Misbegotten Children, nor the Cavers.

The reason Buzzy is so annoying is that he imagines himself to be on a par with Jon Stewart.
He imagines himself to be a quirky righteous caring truth teller.
What he is though is the cheapest and poorest imitation of Jon Stewart.
And being a lib, buzzy never saw Jon Stewart for what he was:
A snide sarcastic caustic agitator with a decent writing staff.

[wasp69]

And?

If there has ever been a more succinct one word post in the history of The Cave, I'd be hard pressed to find it.

[SVPete]

The reason Buzzy is so annoying is that he imagines himself to be on a par with Jon Stewart.
He imagines himself to be a quirky righteous caring truth teller.
What he is though is the cheapest and poorest imitation of Jon Stewart.
And being a lib, buzzy never saw Jon Stewart for what he was:
A snide sarcastic caustic agitator with a decent writing staff.

Buzz lacks the latter and is weak in the former. One that uses "passive aggression" needs to understand that's what they are doing, and how to do it skillfully.

[SVPete]

If there has ever been a more succinct one word post in the history of The Cave, I'd be hard pressed to find it.

So?

[Mr Mannn]

Buzz is trying to troll us with a news story.

unlike DU liberals, conservatives don't fly into a rage merely upon seeing a story we may not like.
After all, three other trials (in liberal controlled cities) like this went towards the policeman's favor.

You should be the one on pins and needles.

[txradioguy]

You see the Bulls game last night? What a blowout.

Any death that is not of natural causes is a homicide.  Big difference between hat and murder.

Not that I expect you to know the difference.

[txradioguy]

Thought you were done with this place?

[HawkHogan]

Thought you were done with this place?

He's excited that an Al Sharpton-linked prosecutor indicted these cops.

[txradioguy]

He's excited that an Al Sharpton-linked prosecutor indicted these cops.

Wouldn't surprise me to find out she was in direct contact with Valerie Jarrett just like the Mayor has been since this started.

[HawkHogan]

Wouldn't surprise me to find out she was in direct contact with Valerie Jarrett just like the Mayor has been since this started.

BALT PD sources tell @joelwaldmanFOX ofcs "pissed", say ME switched ruling on Gray's death from accidental to homicide after "meetings"

[txradioguy]

BALT PD sources tell @joelwaldmanFOX ofcs "pissed", say ME switched ruling on Gray's death from accidental to homicide after "meetings"

And there you have it.  The witch hunt has begun.  The Progressives and the race pimps learned form their mistakes in Ferguson...they won't make the same ones again.

[BuzzClik]

So, what is your commentary on the story from Baltimore?

Mine is this: I wore the badge. I'm not suprised by the coroner's determination or the charges. When an officer's cuffs are on a suspect, that officer is responsible for the suspect's safety.

What I know is that I don't know the facts, and I avoid assumptions.

Who does know the facts? Not the rioters, nor the mayor, nor Emperor Putmos, nor the chattering media monkeys, nor Skinner's Misbegotten Children, nor the Cavers.

Yours is the most rational evaluation I have read or heard anywhere. Nicely stated.

My commentary is pretty simple: Freddy Gray was a guy with a long list of petty charges and some convictions, in and out of jail, mostly for possessing small quantities of drugs. The cops knew him, and he knew them by name. He ran from the cops before any attempt was made to engage, arrest, or even question him. They chased him down, tossed him in a van, and he was dead shortly after. Was this a murder? Probably not. Some sort of wrongful death? Seems likely. Was it racially motivated? I doubt it. But, I have no idea about any of it; just impressions that are probably wrong.

My objection to this and all the stories like it is simple: a routine stop should not end in death. I understand that running, mouthing off, defiance, and resisting arrest get the adrenaline flowing, and that's when bad things happen. However, young girls violating curfew should not end up having their heads pounded into the hood of a cruiser because they smarted off. A woman clearly guilty of public drunkenness should not be given a face plant into a parking lot for being uncooperative. Both of these "victims" were uninjured, so nothing came of it. But why the overwhelming force? (These are just examples of police "escalation"; I know that perps do a lot worse sometimes.)

You wore the badge, so I'm sure you have horror stories. I get that, and I'm not real pumped about the murder charges against the cops. Very soon, however, the police need to retool about escalating little things into great big ones.

[txradioguy]

Very soon, however, the police need to retool about escalating little things into great big ones.

Do you have even the faintest clue just how much restraint the cops show in some of these neighborhoods on a daily basis?

BTW...thought you said you were done with this place?

[HawkHogan]

Do you have even the faintest clue just how much restraint the cops show in some of these neighborhoods on a daily basis?

BTW...thought you said you were done with this place?

He also thinks dealing heroin is a perty offense. 

[txradioguy]

Mosby and her husband, a city councilman, are black and live just blocks from the poverty-stricken community where riots broke out following Gray's funeral.

Some question her ties to Billy Murphy, the attorney representing Gray's family and a big donor to Mosby's election campaign last year. And even her supporters say Mosby's close ties to the community won't save her from criticism.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/01/baltimore-newly-installed-top-prosecutor-faces-big-test-in-freddie-gray-death/

[HawkHogan]

Mosby and her husband, a city councilman, are black and live just blocks from the poverty-stricken community where riots broke out following Gray's funeral.

Some question her ties to Billy Murphy, the attorney representing Gray's family and a big donor to Mosby's election campaign last year. And even her supporters say Mosby's close ties to the community won't save her from criticism.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/01/baltimore-newly-installed-top-prosecutor-faces-big-test-in-freddie-gray-death/

On the other thread, I linked her husband condoning the riots.

[Big Dog]

If there has ever been a more succinct one word post in the history of The Cave, I'd be hard pressed to find it.

Thank you, sir.

[Bad Dog]

Yours is the most rational evaluation I have read or heard anywhere. Nicely stated.

My commentary is pretty simple: Freddy Gray was a guy with a long list of petty charges and some convictions, in and out of jail, mostly for possessing small quantities of drugs. The cops knew him, and he knew them by name. He ran from the cops before any attempt was made to engage, arrest, or even question him. They chased him down, tossed him in a van, and he was dead shortly after. Was this a murder? Probably not. Some sort of wrongful death? Seems likely. Was it racially motivated? I doubt it. But, I have no idea about any of it; just impressions that are probably wrong.

My objection to this and all the stories like it is simple: a routine stop should not end in death. I understand that running, mouthing off, defiance, and resisting arrest get the adrenaline flowing, and that's when bad things happen. However, young girls violating curfew should not end up having their heads pounded into the hood of a cruiser because they smarted off. A woman clearly guilty of public drunkenness should not be given a face plant into a parking lot for being uncooperative. Both of these "victims" were uninjured, so nothing came of it. But why the overwhelming force? (These are just examples of police "escalation"; I know that perps do a lot worse sometimes.)

You wore the badge, so I'm sure you have horror stories. I get that, and I'm not real pumped about the murder charges against the cops. Very soon, however, the police need to retool about escalating little things into great big ones.

As has been said many times before, DUmmies just can't pull off sane.  You made a exemplary effort here Buzzer but the crazy is leaking out around the edges.  You were obviously hoping we would explode into a rage over your news and, fumbled your attempted recovery.  C-

[Carl]

Yours is the most rational evaluation I have read or heard anywhere. Nicely stated.

My commentary is pretty simple: Freddy Gray was a guy with a long list of petty charges and some convictions, in and out of jail, mostly for possessing small quantities of drugs. The cops knew him, and he knew them by name. He ran from the cops before any attempt was made to engage, arrest, or even question him. They chased him down, tossed him in a van, and he was dead shortly after. Was this a murder? Probably not. Some sort of wrongful death? Seems likely. Was it racially motivated? I doubt it. But, I have no idea about any of it; just impressions that are probably wrong.

My objection to this and all the stories like it is simple: a routine stop should not end in death. I understand that running, mouthing off, defiance, and resisting arrest get the adrenaline flowing, and that's when bad things happen. However, young girls violating curfew should not end up having their heads pounded into the hood of a cruiser because they smarted off. A woman clearly guilty of public drunkenness should not be given a face plant into a parking lot for being uncooperative. Both of these "victims" were uninjured, so nothing came of it. But why the overwhelming force? (These are just examples of police "escalation"; I know that perps do a lot worse sometimes.)

You wore the badge, so I'm sure you have horror stories. I get that, and I'm not real pumped about the murder charges against the cops. Very soon, however, the police need to retool about escalating little things into great big ones.

Believe it or not I really don`t take great issue with much of your assessment regarding what is known of the specific event of the thread.
I would caution though about speculation on the rest or arbitrary unknown ones only because each situation is going to be unique and present its own circumstances.
Bear in mind as well that if a person is not apprehended and then proceeds to injure or kill someone then the police will be held accountable as well.
If we were all mind readers it would be a lot easier but not reality.

[the county]

I think the entire case has been handled sloppily and it's hard not to view these charges as trying to appease the mob. Who knows what the truth is here, all I know that everybody involved is a Democrat, so police brutality, looting, Third World situations are all consistent with liberals in charge.