Madonna: Women are the most marginalised group in society

[Carl]

Thu Mar 12, 2015, 08:56 AM

Star Member steve2470 (25,652 posts)

Madonna: Women are the most marginalised group in society

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http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/mar/12/madonna-women-are-the-most-marginalised-group-in-society



Madonna has said that women are “still the most marginalised group” in society.

In an interview with Out magazine, Madonna echoed Patricia Arquette’s recent Oscars acceptance speech by claiming that women were failing to make the same progress as gay people and African Americans.

She said: “Gay rights are way more advanced than women’s rights. People are a lot more open-minded to the gay community than they are to women, period.”

The Rebel Heart singer added: “It’s moved along for the gay community, for the African-American community, but women are still just trading on their ass. To me, the last great frontier is women.”


      
   

Nothing funnier then a woman who used sex to sell herself complaining about being "marginalized"

Of course stevenumbers was trolling for DUmp kitty but forgot that every primitive has to be the most oppressed.

Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:00 AM

Star Member bravenak (10,262 posts)
1. It has not moved along for the AA community much, and the gay community is still very marginalized.

If she thinks things are better for black gay men than women, she is not thinking clearly and needs some education. I hope she knows there are black women, gay women, trans women who are black and not doing nearly as well as this group of women that she claims are much more marginalized than she is. At least she didn't tell us that we owe her.

Response to bravenak (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:30 AM

Star Member cali (97,436 posts)
8. but the fact remains that for all the advances the LGBT community has made

and I celebrate those, women's rights have been in retreat legally.

Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:06 AM

bigwillq (64,997 posts)
2. Women have more rights than gays, imo

At least a straight woman can legally marry in all 50 states, unlike the gays.

Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:27 AM

Star Member stevenleser (22,242 posts)
26. There is a tendency for every discriminated against group to see their condition as worst.

Pushing that as "The" issue by any member of one of them ends up being extremely divisive as we can see here.

There is no comparison, IMHO, between the status of the LGBT community and women. I can say that as not a member of either group. The LGBT community faces far worse discrimination than women as a whole and yes I know that the L in LGBT is all women and the B and the T is partly comprised of women.

Saying women as a whole face worse discrimination than African Americans is also not something I think that you can fairly say. I think it's actually pretty close and when I say close, I mean the discrimination and bias is close to equally bad for both. The election of one black male as President doesn't mean that there is equality for African Americans or that it has suddenly become much better. That is a right wing construct that I hope I am not seeing here.

As bravenak noted, black men are being either imprisoned or killed in shocking numbers. And the discrimination in hiring before an African American even gets a chance to sit down in front of an interviewer is also shocking. http://thinkprogress.org/education/2014/06/25/3452887/education-race-gap/

In the face of that you can't say the conditions for African Americans here are notably better than for women.

Lesser intelligent steve is asking for trouble.

[franksolich]

stevenleser (22,242 posts)   Thu Mar 12, 2015, 10:27 AM

26. There is a tendency for every discriminated against group to see their condition as worst....

Whoa, that's true.

Stephen the Lesser must know some of the same deaf people franksolich knows.

[lastparker]

D'oh! This could bury Madonna. She may have just triggered the greatest war of the oppressed we've ever seen.

And while I give bravenak points for the double-down:

Star Member bravenak (10,262 posts)
1. It has not moved along for the AA community much, and the gay community is still very marginalized.

If she thinks things are better for black gay men than women, she is not thinking clearly and needs some education. I hope she knows there are black women, gay women, trans women who are black and not doing nearly as well as this group of women that she claims are much more marginalized than she is. At least she didn't tell us that we owe her.

Sadly, the opportunity for the triple-down was missed.

[miskie]

Gee, where was all this 'Sisterhood' back in 2008 when you were bashing Sarah Palin at every available opportunity, Madonna ?

[Mr Mannn]

Gee, where was all this 'Sisterhood' back in 2008 when you were bashing Sarah Palin at every available opportunity, Madonna ?

Freedom is only for those approved by the elite

[Wineslob]

This from the woman who marginalized my eyes by showing her 57 YO ass on TV.   

[Fourwinds]

"We're  marginalized" said the world renowned millionaire. Give me a break.

[FlaGator]

I think we should get all the leaders off all the groups who feel marginalized, put them in a wrestling ring and have a battle royal to see who is the World Champion of Marginalization.

[SVPete]

I think we should get all the leaders off all the groups who feel marginalized, put them in a wrestling ring and have a battle royal to see who is the World Champion of Marginalization.

Would the "winner" be the last one standing? Or the first one taken out?

[diesel driver]

Would the "winner" be the last one standing? Or the first one taken out?

Yes, for us!   

[obumazombie]

"We're  marginalized" said the world renowned millionaire. Give me a break.

She is about as "marginalized" as Oprah.
Oprah has also been heavily margarineilized.

[longview]

Nothing funnier then a woman who used sex to sell herself complaining about being "marginalized"

So true. 

[Gina]

What right do I not have that a man has? 

[thundley4]

What right do I not have that a man has?

You have the right to get pregnant. 

[Gina]

You have the right to get pregnant. 

and I utilize that right a lot.

[freedumb2003b]

What right do I not have that a man has?

Worse, you can also bear children.

But I am starting a petition to address that inequity.  If Congress won't pass a law, the POTUS can make it so by XO.

[freedumb2003b]

and I utilize that right a lot.

Must
not
go
there
*grimace*

[Gina]

Must
not
go
there
*grimace*

Honey, everyone wants to go there 

[JohnnyReb]

Honey, everyone wants to go there 

...and some people seem to be welcoming to those that try to go there .

[Ptarmigan]

Madonna is so 1980s.

[ChuckJ]

Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:06 AM

bigwillq (64,997 posts)
2. Women have more rights than gays, imo

At least a straight woman can legally marry in all 50 states, unlike the gays.

I'm getting tired of this lie.
A straight woman can legally marry a man in all 50 states.
A homosexual woman can legally marry a man in all 50 states.
Notice a difference between how the two are treated?

[98ZJUSMC]

Madonna: Women are the most marginalised group in society

utters increasingly irrelevant c*nt.  God, I hate that word....

Gee, where was all this 'Sisterhood' back in 2008 when you were bashing Sarah Palin at every available opportunity, Madonna ?

    

[98ZJUSMC]

What right do I not have that a man has?

You've just annihilated hundreds of LIbEral craniums .